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[Kristian]

To my fabulous fellow CBNers who have seen QOS, pleasea answer the following:

1. Do Camille and Bond kiss at the end?

2. What does Bond say to Corinne when he finds her with Yusef?

3. Does Camille weep at any point in the movie?

Thanks,

[MkB]

Hello Kristian!
No offence, but I really think it's more enjoyable not to know the answer before seeing the film.

Anyway, it's your choice to read or not the spoilers

1.

Spoiler

They just kiss very briefly

2.

Spoiler

I insist, you'd better not know before. If you really want to know, click on the second "spoiler" box below.

Spoiler

He tells him the story of her life: what has already happened, and what is going to happen - that Yussef is going to be "abducted", and that to protect his life she'll be asked to leak information she can access. He points out she wears a necklace (the Algerian loveknot), and asks her if it was a gift from Yussef. Then, he shows her Vesper's one, telling he knew a lady who had the same. Then he asks her to leave the room, since he has to talk with Yussef. She calmly goes out and murmurs "Thank you" before leaving.

3.

Spoiler

I don't really remember, maybe se sobs a little bit at one point, but I'm not positive about that.

[Kristian]

Hello Kristian!
No offence, but I really think it's more enjoyable not to know the answer before seeing the film.

Anyway, it's your choice to read or not the spoilers

1.

Spoiler

They just kiss very briefly

2.

Spoiler

I insist, you'd better not know before. If you really want to know, click on the second "spoiler" box below.

Spoiler

He tells him the story of her life: what has already happened, and what is going to happen - that Yussef is going to be "abducted", and that to protect his life she'll be asked to leak information she can access. He points out she wears a necklace (the Algerian loveknot), and asks her if it was a gift from Yussef. Then, he shows her Vesper's one, telling he knew a lady who had the same. Then he asks her to leave the room, since he has to talk with Yussef. She calmly goes out and murmurs "Thank you" before leaving.

3.

Spoiler

I don't really remember, maybe se sobs a little bit at one point, but I'm not positive about that.

Thanks, MkB.... I did read that second spoiler involving Corinne. Simply wonderful. May I ask one last question?

Spoiler

What is this talk about Bond and Camille contemplating suicide at the end?

Thanks again...

[Ravenstone]

Spoiler

I really really don't think you should read this one, because it gives away the whole ending!

But if you insist

Spoiler

Camille doesn't want to die in flames, because that's how she was left to die as a child. She is terrified, and Bond is contemplating putting her out of her misery rather than letting her die that way.

[MkB]

Thanks, MkB.... I did read that second spoiler involving Corinne. Simply wonderful. May I ask one last question?

Spoiler

What is this talk about Bond and Camille contemplating suicide at the end?

Thanks again...

You're welcome!

Well, if I explain, you're going to go down and dirty with spoilers... Once again, your choice!

Spoiler

Actually, this is my preferred scene of the film, and I explained it on another thread (in the spoiler section).
Bond and Camille go to the Perla de las dunas hotel, right in the middle of the Bolivian desert, to get the Villains. As usual with Bond films and Villain's lairs, they blow the place up (ok, this one is not really a spoiler ). But at some point, as the hotel is on fire, Camille is blocked by the flames in another room. Bond goes and gets her as everything is falling down in fire around, and gets blocked with her, surrounded by fire. They find themselves in a position quite close to the one in the shower with Vesper in CR, you see? but with flames all around. Camille is particularly shocked because for some reason in her past (that you'll discover when you see the movie ), she doens't want to die in a fire, and she mumbles, "no, not this way..."...
At that moment, as it really appears they have no way out, Bond grabs a gun that was besides them. She looks at him, and reminds him of a line he told her earlier, before they stormed the place: to kill someone, "you just need one shot... make it count...". Bond asks her to close her eyes.
Actually, I thought that scene was as Fleming as it gets: it furiously reminded me of the moment, in the LALD novel, when Bond and Solitaire are about to be dragged over the reef among hungry sharks, and Bond decides to drown her when there's not the slightest hope, to spare her more suffering. Here's the Fleming text:
"If they were still alive when the first shark's fin showed on the surface behind them Bond had coldly decided to drown Solitaire. Drown her by twisting her body under his and holding her there. Then he would try and drown himself by twisting her dead body back over his to keep him under."

PS: Ravenstone is right, you'd better not read.

For the mods: maybe we'd better have this thread directly in the "QoS spoilers" sub-section"?

[Kristian]

Thanks, MkB.... I did read that second spoiler involving Corinne. Simply wonderful. May I ask one last question?

Spoiler

What is this talk about Bond and Camille contemplating suicide at the end?

Thanks again...

You're welcome!

Well, if I explain, you're going to go down and dirty with spoilers... Once again, your choice!

Spoiler

Actually, this is my preferred scene of the film, and I explained it on another thread (in the spoiler section).
Bond and Camille go to the Perla de las dunas hotel, right in the middle of the Bolivian desert, to get the Villains. As usual with Bond films and Villain's lairs, they blow the place up (ok, this one is not really a spoiler ). But at some point, as the hotel is on fire, Camille is blocked by the flames in another room. Bond goes and gets her as everything is falling down in fire around, and gets blocked with her, surrounded by fire. They find themselves in a position quite close to the one in the shower with Vesper in CR, you see? but with flames all around. Camille is particularly shocked because for some reason in her past (that you'll discover when you see the movie ), she doens't want to die in a fire, and she mumbles, "no, not this way..."...
At that moment, as it really appears they have no way out, Bond grabs a gun that was besides them. She looks at him, and reminds him of a line he told her earlier, before they stormed the place: to kill someone, "you just need one shot... make it count...". Bond asks her to close her eyes.
Actually, I thought that scene was as Fleming as it gets: it furiously reminded me of the moment, in the LALD novel, when Bond and Solitaire are about to be dragged over the reef among hungry sharks, and Bond decides to drown her when there's not the slightest hope, to spare her more suffering. Here's the Fleming text:
"If they were still alive when the first shark's fin showed on the surface behind them Bond had coldly decided to drown Solitaire. Drown her by twisting her body under his and holding her there. Then he would try and drown himself by twisting her dead body back over his to keep him under."

PS: Ravenstone is right, you'd better not read.

For the mods: maybe we'd better have this thread directly in the "QoS spoilers" sub-section"?

Thanks, guys. Love it all. Didn't mean to start something here. If the mods feel this should be moved, please do so. Not everyone loves spoilers like I do.

Ciao.

[Kristian]

Alright folks...

Next question:

Can anyone please tell me what the note that Fields left for Bond when he returned to the hotel with Camille after the desert adventure? What did the note say?

[Ravenstone]

Spoiler

"RUN"

[Kristian]

Spoiler

"RUN"

Thanks. Such as sweet girl, that Fields...

[Vauxhall]

Given events, I'm not sure when exactly Fields would have had time to leave that note for Bond though.

[DamnCoffee]

Yeah. Quite strange that.

[MkB]

Given events, I'm not sure when exactly Fields would have had time to leave that note for Bond though.

Exactly my thoughts.

Spoiler

I concluded she realised she was followed in the street / in the hotel loby, and managed to leave the note to the concierge before meeting her fate.

[DamnCoffee]

Given events, I'm not sure when exactly Fields would have had time to leave that note for Bond though.

Exactly my thoughts.

Spoiler

I concluded she realised she was followed in the street / in the hotel loby, and managed to leave the note to the concierge before meeting her fate.

Spot On!

Aw! Bless her though, Poor Strawberry.
The thought of her being followed in the street.

[Kristian]

Given events, I'm not sure when exactly Fields would have had time to leave that note for Bond though.

Exactly my thoughts.

Spoiler

I concluded she realised she was followed in the street / in the hotel loby, and managed to leave the note to the concierge before meeting her fate.

So why was Fields killed? Was Elvis that upset that she tripped down the stairs? Did they show her die? What were the scenes leading up to her last scene alive? Trust me, I don't mind the spoilers. Makes me look forward to the movie more...

Edited by Kristian, 02 November 2008 - 09:28 PM.

[DamnCoffee]

Spoiler

I think it was because she got "too close to Bond", She was probably followed back to the room and tortured for information, and as she didn't no anything.... she got it.

She wasn't shown getting killed, it all happened of screen. The last scene I think we saw her in was the scene where she tripped Elvis.

[MkB]

Yeah, she got "too close for comfort"... Oh Gosh, it's a slick joke... !

Sorry to be a pest guys, but please mind the spoiler tag, more than half the world has yet to see QoS, and we're not in the spoiler section

[DamnCoffee]

Sorry, I was under the impression we were in the Spoiler Section. Post amended.