Batman in London - Discussion
#1
Posted 27 August 2008 - 12:34 AM
#2
Posted 27 August 2008 - 03:36 AM
I mean, really, can you imagine Christian Bale and Daniel Craig together on the big screen?
Ah, I just noticed that this is a short story; damn it. Any chance you would consider stretching this out into a full on novel, or perhaps a film treatment? That would be utterly amazing.
#3
Posted 27 August 2008 - 03:41 AM
That's a good idea. If more people show an interest, maybe I'd give it a try.Ah, I just noticed that this is a short story; damn it. Any chance you would consider stretching this out into a full on novel, or perhaps a film treatment? That would be utterly amazing.
#4
Posted 27 August 2008 - 05:33 AM
Just curious
#5
Posted 27 August 2008 - 05:46 AM
His suitcase is very large.How does Bruce change in and out of a full suit of armor so quickly on a the side of the road?
Just curious
#6
Posted 27 August 2008 - 06:10 AM
#7
Posted 27 August 2008 - 06:13 AM
I was thinking about the prospect of an expanded storyline for this, and I think the best and most logical choice would be something involving the return of the League of Shadows and Talia al Ghul, who wants revenge for the death of her father. A cult of trained assassins and terrorists lead by a beautiful, revenge-driven woman sounds like something tailor-made for a Bond film. Therefore it seems like the best idea to bring both Bond and Batman together.
#8
Posted 27 August 2008 - 06:15 AM
I was thinking about the prospect of an expanded storyline for this, and I think the best and most logical choice would be something involving the return of the League of Shadows and Talia al Ghul, who wants revenge for the death of her father. A cult of trained assassins and terrorists lead by a beautiful, revenge-driven woman sounds like something tailor-made for a Bond film. Therefore it seems like the best idea to bring both Bond and Batman together.
So what's that supposed to mean, Righty?
#9
Posted 27 August 2008 - 06:20 AM
Perhaps we should team up on this novel? My knowledge of Batman is limited outside of the WB films.I was thinking about the prospect of an expanded storyline for this, and I think the best and most logical choice would be something involving the return of the League of Shadows and Talia al Ghul, who wants revenge for the death of her father. A cult of trained assassins and terrorists lead by a beautiful, revenge-driven woman sounds like something tailor-made for a Bond film. Therefore it seems like the best idea to bring both Bond and Batman together.
So what's that supposed to mean, Righty?
#10
Posted 27 August 2008 - 06:25 AM
#11
Posted 27 August 2008 - 06:29 AM
#12
Posted 27 August 2008 - 06:35 AM
It's the discussion thread for my fan fic. Please move it back.I didn't see the relevance of this thread being the the Fan Fiction forum so I moved it here. If I'm proven wrong I'll gladly move it back.
#13
Posted 27 August 2008 - 06:40 AM
My apologies. Back it is.It's the discussion thread for my fan fic. Please move it back.I didn't see the relevance of this thread being the the Fan Fiction forum so I moved it here. If I'm proven wrong I'll gladly move it back.
#14
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:00 AM
- The opening line play on Casino Royale: the idea of annoying lift music when you've been summoned that early is perfect, and really sets the tone;
- The fact that Bond is too exhaused to bother with repartee with Moneypenny;
- All of M's dialogue - perhaps the strongest writing here, I could hear it all said exactly as is by Dench;
- Bond welcoming Alfred 'back' to London;
- Bond's line about a man pretending to be a bat.
Tease it out a bit more. What does the lift look like? Get Bond really grating for a line or two. He looks at the gold-tinged walls of the lift, the silvery sheen of the buttons. He longs for the old days when HQ was just a rabbit warren of offices and had no pretensions to being a luxury hotel. Music in the lift! Perhaps he examines himself in the wall mirror. He adjusts a cuff - damn, he'd forgotten his watch - hadn't had time to even dress properly... Perhaps I've given too much there, because you don't want to slow it down, but I want to feel like I've been in the lift, not just told I was in it.
Go easy on the Fleming/Bond familiarities - or twist them. As above, I really like the fact that Bond doesn't have time for the repartee. It's a very nice little touch, because it tells us again that it's ridiculously early, it's urgent, and Bond isn't in the mood, but also it takes something we expect to happen and changes it slightly. Listing his cigarettes and his coffee and everything comes across as just that - ticking through a check-list. Perhaps he doesn't want to wake May so bloody early - she'd never forgive him - so he is even more annoyed because he has to struggle to make his own eggs and his own coffee. Is the paper in at that time? Doubt it, and isn't this urgent? And so on. Just twist things a bit more - mess them up a bit. Don't have them go the way Bond or we expect them to go.
The M scene could do with some expanding. Bond just meekly accepts what M tells him. He'd be annoyed. Brought me in here for some baby-sitting job. And he'd question a little more, surely. Why did Wayne request his services (you need to figure that out yourself, perhaps) - Bond is a secret agent, and foreign businessmen do not usually know the names (and numbers!) of British secret agents. Additionally, this would be an MI5 job. So I think you need to get a better idea of why they meet.
I think Batman having to reveal himself to Bond is a great idea - but I think he'd need a stronger reason to do it. Just putting the suit on to scare the thug is a bit absurd. It's not like he has any special powers or anything. I think it just needs a better situation than this - perhaps hold it off a while. Wayne helps, but he's ruthless. Gradually, Bond begins to suspect he might be not all he seems. This is too early. I think we want Bond or someone to tell us a bit about who Batman is - lone vigilante, battled gangsters, etc - before the revelation. And remember that Batman and Bond have a few things in common: orphans, for instance. Love of fine dining. You give no description of Wayne: what is he wearing, what does he look like? See him through Bond's eyes. I think it could work if they dislike each other at first and then become a little closer. Bond thinks he's just a rich playboy, as you say - his suit was expensive, but had no style - and then he sees that it's just a cover for something else.
Anyway, I loved the premise of this. I hope some of the above helps, and isn't too harsh. Have fun writing it.
#15
Posted 27 August 2008 - 03:28 PM
#16
Posted 27 August 2008 - 05:24 PM
Wow, great stuff. Thanks!Anyway, I loved the premise of this. I hope some of the above helps, and isn't too harsh. Have fun writing it.
I'll certainly use those suggestions when continuing this story.
#17
Posted 28 August 2008 - 01:28 PM