365 replies to this topic

[Jim]

Kissed a gay man on many an occasion myself.

[Aris007]

If you notice carefully the second photo of Craig's new penthouse.....what's that on the bed?????? Oh, my God he's gay!
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Pathetic!

[sharpshooter]

I don't believe the story. And if true, it's none of our business.

[coco1997]

I for one, think it's rather great news ;-).

...Um, why?

[Germanlady]

A person can choose to ignore the story without accusing TNE of lying.

Oh, they might have done SOMETHING right for a change and that doesn´t allow people to question them? Its not so much about gay or not gay, its about the truth and in this story, there is no truth, because if you think just logical - one guy out of how many were there? - has seen all the reported in and outside the bar and nobody else. This alone brands it as 90% likely to be false, PLUS the fact there are no pics, nothing. So yes, I accuse them of lying or believing a guy, who is lying. Also take into account other reports, that did indeed take some time to investigate (going to the bar and asking the people), who confirmed nothing had happened. A lie? No - because all those, who didn´t see, report or snapped anything confirm that.

Just look at it - it has Boulevard Press written all over it

Edited by Germanlady, 28 May 2010 - 04:59 PM.

[stromberg]

As if we hadn't learned enough about tabloid rumours a few weeks ago.

Hereby announcing that this thread will be merged into the tabloid trash bin some time during the coming weekend.

[Aris007]

Thank God!

[Germanlady]

I'm just saying that hundreds of people can be eyewitnesses to a single event and be told that they are wrong, so I'm not impressed with your argument that just because one person claims to have (so far) seen Daniel Craig kissing a man that that person's testimony must be automatically ruled null and void. The absence of other people claiming to have seen anything, or nothing, doesn't rule in or rule out the claim of the one person who said he/she saw Craig kissing a man.

I let this rest now - feel free to believe what you want and so will I.

[Qboat]

I'm just saying that hundreds of people can be eyewitnesses to a single event and be told that they are wrong, so I'm not impressed with your argument that just because one person claims to have (so far) seen Daniel Craig kissing a man that that person's testimony must be automatically ruled null and void. The absence of other people claiming to have seen anything, or nothing, doesn't rule in or rule out the claim of the one person who said he/she saw Craig kissing a man.

I let this rest now - feel free to believe what you want and so will I.

So what, I'll make it my goal to prove he's not

[O.H.M.S.S.]

Likewise, masculine films such as BATMAN FOREVER, IF, GODZILLA, THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW, UNIVERSAL SOLDIER, LOOK BACK IN ANGER, CHILDS PLAY, FRANKENSTEIN, INDEPENDENCE DAY, MARATHON MAN, MIDNIGHT COWBOY, HELLRAISER, PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN 4 and OHMSS were all directed by gay men.

Was Peter Hunt gay?

[The Shark]

Likewise, masculine films such as BATMAN FOREVER, IF, GODZILLA, THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW, UNIVERSAL SOLDIER, LOOK BACK IN ANGER, CHILDS PLAY, FRANKENSTEIN, INDEPENDENCE DAY, MARATHON MAN, MIDNIGHT COWBOY, HELLRAISER, PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN 4 and OHMSS were all directed by gay men.

Was Peter Hunt gay?

Very much so.

[O.H.M.S.S.]

Likewise, masculine films such as BATMAN FOREVER, IF, GODZILLA, THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW, UNIVERSAL SOLDIER, LOOK BACK IN ANGER, CHILDS PLAY, FRANKENSTEIN, INDEPENDENCE DAY, MARATHON MAN, MIDNIGHT COWBOY, HELLRAISER, PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN 4 and OHMSS were all directed by gay men.

Was Peter Hunt gay?

Very much so.

I didn't know that. Where did you find that information?

[Slight Inferiority Complex]

Another example: if an organisation like the KKK sprang up in Britain, I'm sure that the government would immediately outlaw it.

We've just forced the British National Party to remove the ethnicity bar from it's membership criteria. To top that we're going to make the English Defence League have a fixed percentage of immigrants involved in their next attempt to spark an inner city riot.

We don't ban them, we just tease them.

Edited by Slight Inferiority Complex, 31 May 2010 - 11:06 AM.

[Germanlady]

As for Daniel Craig....I did speed-read the National Enquirer article whilst in the express que this afternoon at Harrods, and here were the main points:

• Source *DID* take and pass a polygraph examination
• Spotted at Roosterfish on May 15th, 2010
• With male friend
• Had drinks together, then hit the dance floor together
• Was approached by dozens/hundreds of fans and said hello to everyone
• Was later spotted by the source/customer in parking lot
• Craig tenderly kissed male friend and used hand to bring male friend's face in closer
• When Craig realized he'd been seen he broke off the kiss
• Wiped tear from male friend's eye and cheek
• Tongue was involved

Just kidding about points 9 and 10 (especially about point 9. Who'd be dumb enough to write something like that?).

Daniel Craig's reps have not responded to the article.

Regardless of what we may think about the veracity of the report, or the propriety of publishing such an allegation or even discussing it here, I'm CERTAIN that his people (and by "people" I mean his talent agency, his manager, and people connected to the studios putting out COWBOYS AND ALIENS and BOND-23) will be having a talk with him soon to discuss how to respond to the story and to make sure he knows to avoid public situations like that in the future.

Just kidding about points 9 and 10 (especially about point 9. Who'd be dumb enough to write something like that?).

You just did..

[*]Source *DID* take and pass a polygraph examination
That´s what TNE said. Have you seen him taking it? Could be true or not but even when he took it, its common knowledge, how much worth those tests are anyway. Maybe the guy saw a farewell hug and dressed it up to make it a story interesting enough to hit the net. Ever thought of that?

[*]When Craig realized he'd been seen he broke off the kiss
This alone shouold bring everyone with a common sense to at least question it - he is only Daniel Craig - of course, nobody looks at him or follows his every move. So - him thinking he could do whatever and nobody watching him is so insane, that there is nothing more to say. He is so intensely private, that this alone proves the story as a lie to me and from what I read, to many others as well.

I repeat - no pics taken in a time, where everybody has a cellphone plus the reports of people, who were there, that NOTHING whatsoever had happened. He could be straight or gay and still wouldn´t get involved in any of this in public.

DC´s reps will not respond to this crap, as he never defends himself and wisely so - because people believe what they want anyway.

I mean his talent agency, his manager, and people connected to the studios putting out COWBOYS AND ALIENS and BOND-23) will be having a talk with him soon to discuss how to respond to the story and to make sure he knows to avoid public situations like that in the future.

That would have been days ago. So - obviously nobody feels the need to do that or feel threatened enough by this load of smeary gossip. Having a lot of gay friends only shows to me, that he has an open mind and does choose his friends on their personality and not their secual preference. Cudos for that - maybe more people should think that way.

BTW - he also can´t drive stick and lost a tooth, right?

MI6 deleted their 2 pages of this thread - maybe CBN should do the same.

Edited by Germanlady, 31 May 2010 - 12:30 PM.

[Trident]

Is there any evidence whatsoever?

No?

Well...

[Zorin Industries]

Daniel Craig's 'team' will not be advising him on how to avoid this scenario in future. Come on - why on Earth would they? There is nothing to avoid nor is there anything to report. Craig is a modern minded actor (whose world has been no doubt full of gay creatives since he was a teenager). Quite why his "team" would be advising him to be careful is incredibly insulting all round.

[Trident]

Daniel Craig's 'team' will not be advising him on how to avoid this scenario in future. Come on - why on Earth would they? There is nothing to avoid nor is there anything to report. Craig is a modern minded actor (whose world has been no doubt full of gay creatives since he was a teenager). Quite why his "team" would be advising him to be careful is incredibly insulting all round.

Quite. The simple fact that Craig is an adult perfectly capable of living his own life seems to be beyond some people's grasp.

[Zorin Industries]

Gravity, your fair points are however reliant on the story being remotely true - which is why I would not imagine it is giving anyone a sleepless night, apart from Mr Perez Hilton who is a meddling little queen at the best of times.

[General G.]

Europe may yawn at same-sex relations, but America isn't quite there yet, nor are other parts of the world. There is no way...zilch, zip, nada....that someone with money riding on Craig or these films aren't going to say something to him.

You are absolutely correct.

It isn't fair to gay actors, but then again, life isn't fair.

If Craig announced to the world that he was gay (or bi) just prior to Bond 23 being released, it would have a devastating impact on U.S. boxoffice -- especially here in "Redneckistan", a.k.a. the "Old Confederacy" South. The film would play to nearly empty theaters, no matter how good the pic turned out to be.

Again, this is most certainly not fair. Unfortunately, though, it is reality.

[Zorin Industries]

I would imagine Eon HQ know exactly what side of the bread Mr Craig likes his butter and would not have embarked upon a Bond who may cause problems with persona down the line. I agree that great swathes of the world could not get their head around a gay or bi actor playing Bond but this is not even in contention as the story is such a piece of stirring, surely?

[General G.]

"Devastating"...."nearly empty theaters"....I think your worst case scenarios are a bit extreme.

Southern U.S. audiences wouldn't have a problem with Bond having a gay ally in the film. But straight American men (generally speaking, of course) simply do NOT want their action heroes to be played by homosexuals.

I know it's not logical -- after all, these are actors playing fictional roles. But that's simply the way it is.

[Germanlady]

Europe may yawn at same-sex relations, but America isn't quite there yet, nor are other parts of the world. There is no way...zilch, zip, nada....that someone with money riding on Craig or these films aren't going to say something to him.

..and then..

I don't agree with any of those points. I don't agree that it would 'devastate' the U.S. box office. The film might lose a percentage point or two, but I believe that America is way more tolerant than you make us appear to be, and especially in the "Old Confederacy South". Advocate Magazine listed Atlanta as the Gayest City in America earlier this year. Gayer than San Francisco and Key West.

So, WHAT IS your real opinion? It seems to me, that you write, what just feels appropriate to you in order to NOT agree with a post, that doesn´t agree with you.
Also - you seem to be the only one here or elsewhere, who thinks, TNE is even worth the paper its written on. It is and remains a tabloid magazine, that tells stories to sell as many as possible, following the old quote of "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story".

I well remember DC being on vacation in St. Barth with his fiancee/wife and a bunch of friends (men, women and children) and being caught splashing in the water with Andy Cohen. Right away, the gay rumors came out. So - he is not allowed to join someone he knows, because that person is gay? Because people like you might brand him as gay? What world do you live in, I really wonder. DC or any other celeb would be off very poorly, should they try to avoid this sort of nonsense, because they cannot. People will ALWAYS find something to put them down. So - IMO - the only way to live a halfway normal life as a celeb is to do, what you feel like doing, as long as it is not aside the law.

IF he had done the reported, don´t you think, people would have jumped on THAT wagon long ago? People LOVE to dig up mud as long as they don´t get dirty themselves. The perfect opportunity. People who were questioned, did say nothing happened and NOBODY has confirmed anything else.

Craig has always been connected with gays, since he has so many friends, that are - but being with women ALL his life and being very confident in his own sexuality obviously gives him the kind of confidence to not back off now that he is Bond.

Since the sudios don´t seem to be concerned about it, why would you?

Edited by Germanlady, 31 May 2010 - 08:40 PM.

[Germanlady]

Just found this from an older interview, but not THAT old - read and think again, if this man would be doing ANY sort of sexual whatsoever in public. Also he has a recorded history of being with women constantly for 13/14 years now - and being married in early age.

Craig is adamant when it comes to not talking about his private life. "All I know is that I've tried to protect my privacy as long as possible and I will continue to do so because it's got -all to do with anybody," he says. "This [interview] is part of what I do for a living. But the rest of it is nobody's business. The same as nobody's private life is anyone's business, even if you are in the public eye. There should be a clearly defined line and I don't think it takes brain surgery to try and figure that out. It's fairly simple. There's privacy and then there's public life. If you choose to be in the public eye, then maybe you open yourself up to all sorts of rubbish. But if you don't then I think that should be respected."

Another good example: Report from a Czech paper back in 06. He is just filming the poison scene from CR, parts of which were cut out, but what makes the paper out of it? He is drunk...ah well...Notice something? You see, what you want to believe...as someone here said - we have experienced with SNF´s little game, how easy it is to spread lies all over the world and how little the papers care about the reliability of the source. It takes nothing but words, no truth behind it necessary.

CZECH REPUBLIC: 'Lead actor Daniel Craig tries to swerve out of the way as a car runs him over during filming, 20th May 2006.
Craig spent the evening filming a scene in which he fell down the stairs of a casino, and then struggled across the road after being hit by a car and a scooter. He seemed to look drunk. Daniel Craig has been filming the new bond film, Casino Royale in Czech Republic over the weekend..'

Edited by Germanlady, 31 May 2010 - 09:18 PM.

[Germanlady]

Thanks for having started picking on me now. I was waiting for that - always shows that people are on the defense and out of real arguments.

I gave arguments, that you decide not to give any credibility. You don´t know about my "feelings" - how could you? Just this out of your many sentences. You argue that it happened in the Parking Lot and ONLY ONE guy saw it. Like I said - Daniel Craig walks out of a bar and NOBODY watches him? Sure - makes sense. This being one of your weakest arguments and still, you bring it on and want to make a point with it? None of us were there, but based on logical thinking, it doesn´t make any sense. And, of course, he has nothing better to do then blow his cover. If he wanted to come out of the closet, with this, he would have lined out the best chance in now reacting to it with "Yes, I am bi/gay"

This time I REALLY rest my case, as I am sure, people are getting bored and annoyed by it now. So - if you want to continue digging through this smear campaign, you will have to do so alone. Thanks for the discussion.

Edited by Germanlady, 01 June 2010 - 07:31 AM.

[Aris007]

I really don't believe Craig being a gay, but if he is there has to be named a new Academy award category. It'll be called "Best Actor in a Leading Role with manly behaviour" and Craig should win this every single year!

[Napoleon Solo]

2 recent stories ABOUT the Enquirer and the way it does business.

1. From the American Journalism Review, a critique:

http://ajr.org/Article.asp?id=4875

2. From the Columbia Journalism Review about the vetting process:

http://www.cjr.org/b...es.php?page=all

Given the intensity of the arguments in this thread, I doubt any of this will change anybody's mind. But these articles do address some of those arguments.

[bondrules]

From Mel Gibson's latest tirade:

"He also takes aim at Oksana’s previous relationship with former James Bond star Timothy Dalton, with whom she has a 13-year-old son, Alexander. A source close to the situation says Oksana claims she was forced to tape Mel after he made a series of death threats."

http://www.radaronli...a-she-would-get

[quantumofsolace]

http://www.express.c...ext-Bond-baddie

[Iceskater101]

http://www.express.c...ext-Bond-baddie

Holy crap they already figured out the next bond villain?
Damn. They work fast. Isn't he going to be a villain in the next star trek film?

[Vauxhall]

Well, Benedict Cumberbatch could conceivably be cast in a Bond film, I guess...

I find this 'article' harder to believe though: http://www.mirror.co...nd-girl-1337153