The MI6 (SIS) office staff
#1
Posted 13 September 2002 - 08:23 PM
M - At the moment she is played by Dame Judi Dench. No disrespect to her, she's a great actress but she isn't getting any younger.
British TV actress Zoe Wanamaker? would be an ideal replacement as a younger Barbara Mawdsley. She has the looks and acting abilities of Dame Judi.
She currently appears on the BBC1 comedy My Family as Susan.
Moneypenny - Samantha Bond. In my opinion she has a few more years left in her. Especially when compared to the menopausal age of Lois Maxwell by For Your Eyes Only in 1981!
Q - John Cleese. A new Q, however he also isn't young so can't be considered a long term casting. I would recommend the British comic Steve Coogan. He is relatively young (in his thirties!), funny and has paid homage to Bond in his Alan Partridge TV character with Roger Moore interviews and pictures!
#2
Posted 13 September 2002 - 08:34 PM
#3
Posted 13 September 2002 - 11:18 PM
As for Samantha Bond's Moneypenny, I don't really care if she goes. I just haven't warmed up to her.
What about Tanner. I thought that character was supposed to be Bond's best friend in the office. The current actor is like some balding, pot-bellied suburban dad (sorry mr. actor!). Shouldn't he be a little more appealing like Bond?
#4
Posted 14 September 2002 - 02:20 AM
If only Bond was a tv show, then we'd have some interesting regulars in a 'normal' setting (as opposed to hollowed-out volcanoes).
#5
Posted 14 September 2002 - 03:53 AM
Judi Dench, not sure what her plans are, but I think she should stay until she can no longer act anymore, its not like its a terribly deep role, and she only has to come by and work for at most, a few weeks.
John Cleese- Well, he's in his sixties right now. I'd say he has at least 20 years left, thats if he wants to stay with the series (because the role doesnt exactly require a lot of time, I doubt he'll leave the role).
#6
Posted 14 September 2002 - 09:10 AM
If EON/MGM wish to persist with a female M then we have to discuss replacements now. Any ideas? I have put forward Zoe Wanamaker, a sensible choice in my opinion.
Steve Coogan would be an excellent Q. Cleese is ok for a few films but not 20 years!
James Villiers was the snooty Bill Tanner in For Your Eyes Only. Michael Kitchen is an excellent actor as Tanner. It is just a shame that he never seems to be available when the films are shooting and he is required, hence the elevation of Charles Robinson, who I do find annoying to become an analyst.
I know the whole Glidrose/Eon/heirs of Ian Lancaster Fleming thing has been discussed before but it is a shame that there can't be more input and co-operation between the literary Bond and the movies. It's all money I guess! Raymond Benson would have some excellent ideas for the films as he has already demonstrated in his novels.
#7
Posted 14 September 2002 - 09:30 AM
Originally posted by Havelock
Dame Judi Dench is an excellent actress I know, I don't dispute that, but she is getting older like all of us.
If EON/MGM wish to persist with a female M then we have to discuss replacements now.
judi dench may be getting older, but shes not that old! considering she wants to, she could easily keep going for at least 10 more years, so i think looking for replacements is a little premature.
And why couldnt John Cleese go on for another 20 years. desmond lewellyn kept going into his eighties, so he could easily keep going on for a long time.
#8
Posted 14 September 2002 - 09:41 AM
We've always had "oldish" (no disrespect) looking actors playing the characters. Bernard Lee is a fine example, he wasn't exactly in his 30's or anything.
Older and Wiser comes into my head.
This may not be the case with the real MI6 - but certainly for the Franchise, I couldn't watch a 29yr old Q. Would make me think I was watching, "James Bond Jr." or something
#9
Posted 14 September 2002 - 09:38 PM
My thoughts exactly Dave:)Originally posted by Dave
I would never want to see actors under 50 playing either M or Q. It's just not right.
We've always had "oldish" (no disrespect) looking actors playing the characters. Bernard Lee is a fine example, he wasn't exactly in his 30's or anything.
Older and Wiser comes into my head.
This may not be the case with the real MI6 - but certainly for the Franchise, I couldn't watch a 29yr old Q. Would make me think I was watching, "James Bond Jr." or something
#10
Posted 15 September 2002 - 12:01 AM
#11
Posted 15 September 2002 - 04:36 AM
Originally posted by Carver
My thoughts exactly Dave:)
I'll third those sentiments. Just because a new Bond comes in, why should there be a whole new set of people come in? It was understandable in GoldenEye. The series is strong again and the continuity would seem to work in its favor.
Except for Frederick Gray and a few secondary characters like Smithers in the '80s Bonds, the people in the office never made a great impression. I don't mind Tanner and Robinson, but don't think they really add much at all. Tanner was so much more important in the books, but the film series is separate and the need is just not there. Although I have to say I did like Robinson's obvious support of Bond during the pre-credits of TND. It showed somebody who had actual emotion rather than the tight-lipped impression they normally seem to give.
#12
Posted 19 September 2002 - 05:56 AM
#13
Posted 02 October 2002 - 05:28 PM
Dench is 58 years old.Originally posted by Havelock
Dame Judi Dench is an excellent actress I know, I don't dispute that, but she is getting older like all of us.
Bernard Lee was 54 when he did Dr. No. I see no reason why Dench can't stay as long as Lee did (barring unforseen health problems).
I firmly believe that Moneypenny and Bond should be matched; and that Moneypenny should be replaced whenever Bond is replaced. I think it was a mistake for Lois Maxwell to stay as long as she did, but then, Roger Moore stayed too long as well. Samantha Bond and Pierce Brosnan have a fine spark, and I'll be sorry to see her go, but it makes sense to keep Moneypenny and Bond as a "couple."
OTOH, M is supposed to be older than Bond, and Q can be any age, so those two roles can be filled until the actor retires or is otherwise..ahem..unable to continue.
#14
Posted 02 October 2002 - 05:45 PM
For Q, I don't think I would really do it but I'd kind of like to see Kevin Weisman move his Marshall character from 'Alias' into the role of Q in the Bond series. Marshall is the freshest take on a Q type character since, well, Desmond Llewelyn.
For Moneypenny, I think an unknown would be approriate. And aged to match Bond, as others have suggested.
For Tanner, I've always pictured tanner as a bigger guy. Don't know who I'd get to play him but I wouldn't make him any smaller.
I wouldn't replace Robinson, I would just create a new character to fill his role.
#15
Posted 04 October 2002 - 06:28 PM
#16
Posted 04 October 2002 - 07:09 PM
If Dench decides to stay on for another 10 years that'd be no problem because the lady who plays Inspector Gold (I don't know her real name) is, I think, only in her 50's now.
#17
Posted 04 October 2002 - 07:16 PM
#18
Posted 04 October 2002 - 08:33 PM
Sam Bond in my opinion is the best Penny and should stay in the role for at least the next three movies.
#19
Posted 05 October 2002 - 04:39 AM
I can't believe I made such a silly math error!Originally posted by Mourning Becomes Electra
Actually Judi Dench is 68 years old
You know, I was looking at a picture of her and thinking, She really doesn't look great for 58, does she? LOL at myself!
#20
Posted 08 October 2002 - 08:14 AM
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Posted 08 October 2002 - 10:35 AM
#22
Posted 08 October 2002 - 10:53 AM
#23
Posted 08 October 2002 - 05:16 PM
Helen Mirren, Rolex, now THERE's a fantastic suggestion. But I do lean towars 1q2w3e4r's feeling that when Judi Dench leaves the series she should be replaced by a man.
#24
Posted 11 October 2002 - 03:08 PM
#25
Posted 12 October 2002 - 06:14 AM
Its just sad to think that once Pierce goes, so will the rest of the gang.
#26
Posted 13 October 2002 - 08:49 AM
of course, that wouldnt work with Brosnan, as he is in his late 40s himself right now, but when a new and younger bond takes over then a Q in his late 40s might work.
it would be especially convenient since he could do many more movies then cleese will be able to.