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[Skudor]

I never believe anything from the Sun. Still, they aren't always a bunch of lying prigs...

The level of detail makes be think there may be something to this though...

[HildebrandRarity]

[quote name='Shrublands' post='857482' date='5 April 2008 - 12:25'][quote name='Captain Tightpants' post='857479' date='5 April 2008 - 12:37'][quote name='Shrublands' post='857477' date='5 April 2008 - 11:26']I would say that this is true, Winehouse has the gig.

The article just doesn

[Four Aces]

There is nothing I like about Amy Winehouse.

[doubler83]

Mark collected her clothes and guitar to take to his place.

Uh huh, because this person who is supposed to be in the music industry doesn't have one?

LMAO!

[marktmurphy]

All detractors of this girl should see the silver lining...that her circumstances seem to echo the darkness or mood of Our James' situation into and out of the titles sequence.

The real irony would be if her tragic life consumated itself in some form of overdose.

Would it not be something if an 'event' were to befall this girl AFTER she'd cut the song and BEFORE the premiere*? WHAT a historical occurence that would be?

OTOH, kindly forgive my morbid musings and apologies to anyone I may have offended.

You know this is a real person, yes? You're being very distasteful.

[HildebrandRarity]

All detractors of this girl should see the silver lining...that her circumstances seem to echo the darkness or mood of Our James' situation into and out of the titles sequence.

The real irony would be if her tragic life consumated itself in some form of overdose.

Would it not be something if an 'event' were to befall this girl AFTER she'd cut the song and BEFORE the premiere*? WHAT a historical occurence that would be?

OTOH, kindly forgive my morbid musings and apologies to anyone I may have offended.

You know this is a real person, yes? You're being very distasteful.

Hence the apology to you and others in the final sentence.

[Leon]

Eugh, it never ends. Why is it The Sun who always has these "sources" when it comes to Bond films?

If they choose this bland one (good voice sure, but crummy music) then it's a massive shame seeing as this is looking to be one belter of a film, which should be matched with one belter of an amazing song.

Not another Tomorrow Never Dies-esque crooning drudge.

[Captain Tightpants]

Eugh, it never ends. Why is it The Sun who always has these "sources" when it comes to Bond films?

If they choose this bland one (good voice sure, but crummy music) then it's a massive shame seeing as this is looking to be one belter of a film, which should be matched with one belter of an amazing song.

Not another Tomorrow Never Dies-esque crooning drudge.

I don't find it too surprising that this "news" has come out in the wake of the reports we've had for the past few days. Some big news has been revealed about Quantum of Solace, and so the tabloids probably felt they needed something more than everyone else had. They probably decided to release this "news" as a response to everything else that has come out.

But there's another very good reason as to why Winehouse probably won't be recording anything at all (much less the Quantum of Solace theme for the next month. About two weeks ago - March 18th - she appeared with her face covered in scabs (warning: ick factor). The official word was that she was disagnosed with impetigo (even though it didn't look like any impetigo sores I've ever seen), which is contaigous at close quarters. Not only does it present with flu-like symptoms, which wouldn't do anything for her voice, impetigo has a six to eight week (I think) recovery window (though I can't imagine that booze and drug abuse would do anyhting to help that). I don't think anyoe is going to want to be in a recording studio with her any time soon.

Edited by Captain Tightpants, 06 April 2008 - 02:24 AM.

[Qwerty]

Now on the CBn main page...

The Sun Says 'Quantum' Singer Is Amy Winehouse

The rumour that just doesn't go away...

It's the first time Mark Ronson's name's been mentioned and that's quite exciting (if true). They stand an excellent chance of creating something very impressive.

Quite agreed. He works wonders with her as well as several others as evidenced by his album Version.

[danslittlefinger]

Let us not forget though that Dan himself said at one point that it "wont be Winehouse" (not verbatim)...hmm...a red herring?

Edited by danslittlefinger, 07 April 2008 - 04:07 AM.

[Single-O-Seven]

But didn't Mr. WIlson at one point state it could possibly be her? He seemed to think she'd fit, but even if this rumour is true it's likely she's just completing a demo, as others have suggested. There's probably other musicians doing the same right now. That's common for all the films. Look at Alice Cooper and Pulp, who both put forward songs that were rejected in favour of other artists. Even Tony Christie recorded a Casino Royale theme, but as we know another gentleman got the privilege of having his song chosen.

[Skudor]

Let us not forget though that Dan himself said at one point that it "wont be Winehouse" (not verbatim)...hmm...a red herring?

Did he? I don't recall this. I wonder how involved he would be in this anyway.

But didn't Mr. WIlson at one point state it could possibly be her? He seemed to think she'd fit, but even if this rumour is true it's likely she's just completing a demo, as others have suggested. There's probably other musicians doing the same right now. That's common for all the films. Look at Alice Cooper and Pulp, who both put forward songs that were rejected in favour of other artists. Even Tony Christie recorded a Casino Royale theme, but as we know another gentleman got the privilege of having his song chosen.

Wilson's comments were interesting. He's someone who appears to chose his words carefully with the press. And this particular quote is as far from a denial as you can get without confirming it.

I suspect there is a grain of truth to these rumours, whether she's one of several artists doing a demo or is the chose one for now.

[Captain Tightpants]

But didn't Mr. WIlson at one point state it could possibly be her? He seemed to think she'd fit, but even if this rumour is true it's likely she's just completing a demo, as others have suggested. There's probably other musicians doing the same right now. That's common for all the films. Look at Alice Cooper and Pulp, who both put forward songs that were rejected in favour of other artists. Even Tony Christie recorded a Casino Royale theme, but as we know another gentleman got the privilege of having his song chosen.

The thing about MGW is that he's a lot like F1 team boss Ron Dennis: what he says is carefully constructed to tell us exactly what he wants us to know. In this case, Wilson's exact words were "She could do a really good job. We'll have to wait and see." He's not committing to it either way: while her signature isn't affixed to the contract, that doesn't mean she hasn't been ruled out completely. The media often cut things one way or the other; to them, there's no middle ground because they deal in facts. Facts are certain things - this will happen or it will not happen - but "maybe", as offered by Wilson, is uncertain. It's not definitive and is therefore not a story.

I honestly don't understand what is so great about Winehouseas a performer. Most of her act is centred around the fact that she's got a drug problem. You can't tell me Rehab isn't a self-centered song that glamourises addictions in exactly the same way as you can't deny that while they tried to send her to rehab and she said no, no, no, she then showed us exactly why she should have been there in the first place.

Amy Winehouse isn't even all that original; any artist I care to name has at least one song about drugs in heir lineup. The Red Hot Chili Peppers have Under The Bridge, Parallel Universe, Strip My Mind and a dozen others I could name; Metallica's Master of Puppets is accepted to be about the effects of drugs. Hell, the verses and chorus of the Queens of the Stone Age song Feel Good Hit of the Summer is just a list of drugs (nicotine, valium, vicodin, marijuana, ecstacy and alcohol ... but there's a joke behind it). So Winehouse sings about her problems with drugs? Big deal! So does everyone else with a habit and a microphone. The only thing different about WInehouse is that she's a woman who sounds like a man.

And as "charming" as my vomit analogy was, it's true: a song by Amy Winehouse will do absolutely nothing for the film other than a very painful few minutes. I'll take my earplugs if she gets it; I'd rather listen to Die Another Day than anything by her.

[DamnCoffee]

I'm really beginning to think that this is true. Anyway a crap performer wont effect the movie. Take Licence to Kill for example, it has a horrible title track but the film itself is OK.

[marktmurphy]

I honestly don't understand what is so great about Winehouseas a performer. Most of her act is centred around the fact that she's got a drug problem. You can't tell me Rehab isn't a self-centered song that glamourises addictions in exactly the same way as you can't deny that while they tried to send her to rehab and she said no, no, no, she then showed us exactly why she should have been there in the first place.

Amy Winehouse isn't even all that original; any artist I care to name has at least one song about drugs in heir lineup. The Red Hot Chili Peppers have Under The Bridge, Parallel Universe, Strip My Mind and a dozen others I could name; Metallica's Master of Puppets is accepted to be about the effects of drugs. Hell, the verses and chorus of the Queens of the Stone Age song Feel Good Hit of the Summer is just a list of drugs (nicotine, valium, vicodin, marijuana, ecstacy and alcohol ... but there's a joke behind it). So Winehouse sings about her problems with drugs? Big deal! So does everyone else with a habit and a microphone. The only thing different about WInehouse is that she's a woman who sounds like a man.

She's done one song about someone thinking the protagonist of the song is an alcoholic (whereas she was actually drinking because of a broken relationship- thanks heavens James Bond would never sit in a room on his own downing shots because of a woman, eh?!) and you take that as meaning that all she sings about are drugs? What are you basing that on?

She's a great singer with a fantastic sound.

[HildebrandRarity]

Captain Tightpan..., Could you name me 5 songs of hers about drugs? If all she sings about is drugs, can you provide some proof (other than the song titled "Rehab")?

I'll Help you out with a list...

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Go ahead please.

[Leon]

Let us not forget though that Dan himself said at one point that it "wont be Winehouse" (not verbatim)...hmm...a red herring?

And Daniel Craig seems to be having an even bigger role in the overall production of this film than the last one.

"They have no idea what they

[kneelbeforezod]

I'm just going to throw this link into every thread where people start slagging off Miss Winehouse:



She has a distinctive, classic sounding voice that would do Bond proud. Now that's not to say she's the only person for the job, but she certainly isn't deserving of the frankly slightly vile criticism she gets from Daily Mail readers on this forum.

[Captain Tightpants]

1 - Some Unholy War
"He still stands in spite of what his scars say
I'll battle till this bitter finale"

If you're not seeing the drug connection there ... then I don't know what you're seeing. It's not about Amy Winehouse's problem, but then, it doesn't have to be: she's singing about her byfriend's habit and the way she'll stand beside him because she's been there before.

2 - Mr. Magic
"Without you, a misery
Blue with a migraine
All the songs sound better when you're next to me
Hey, 'cause they come naturally"

Yep, more drug connotations: she's singing aout what it feels like when she's not high. If ever you're heard a junkie talking about their experiences on drugs, they sometimes desribe colours and sounds as being 'clearer'. And the name, Mr. Magic? Sounds like a drug reference to me.

3 - Addicted
"When you smoke all my weed man,
You gots to call the green man.
So I can get mine, and you get yours."

I'm not even going to bother to comment.

4 - Help Yourself
"I can't help you if you won't help yourself
No I can't help you if you don't help yourself
You can only get so much from someone yeah
You can get so much from me
I can't help you if you won't help yourself"

Now while this could be about anything from despression to suicidal tendencies, I'm seeing a drug-themed undertow going here. It's kind of the antithesis of Some Unholy War; rather than saying she'll fight, she's saying she can't do any more.

5 - Alright, you got me. I can't find a fifth song beyond Rehab. And while some of the songs only make references to drugs and alcohol rather than being explicitly about them, my case is still there. All the lrics came from Songmeanings.net, so they may be a little inaccurate; I reuse to listen toAmy Winehouse because I don't like her voice.

[kneelbeforezod]

[Johnboy007]

I really hope they pick someone else. I simply do not like the sound of her voice.

[stamper]

I'm warming up a little to this notion : AS LONG AS WE DON'T SEE HER ON SCREEN DURING THE CREDITS FYEO LIKE of course...

[HildebrandRarity]

I'm warming up a little to this notion : AS LONG AS WE DON'T SEE HER ON SCREEN DURING THE CREDITS FYEO LIKE of course...

Why would they? Was Madonna in the titles? Paul McCartney? Duran Duran? She's not as attractive as Easton was (Binder wanted her beautiful eyes specifically to reference the title) so why even think that?

[I never miss]

I think that AW is simply a contender at this point, along with one or two others. She has a great voice, but she has an awful lot of baggage too. If Eon want a safer, albeit less commercial (in the USA at least) option, then they may consider Duffy, who is in a similar vein to AW. Either of the two are THE outstanding options IMO, esp. as the director has stated he wants to make an early 60s-style spy movie.

[danslittlefinger]

Let us not forget though that Dan himself said at one point that it "wont be Winehouse" (not verbatim)...hmm...a red herring?

Yes, he came out with a statement a couple of months ago...cant recall all of it now.

I think it will either Amy, Duffy or Leona Lewis. The singer will be female for sure. It's a pity Sade is not around.

[Trident]

Let us not forget though that Dan himself said at one point that it "wont be Winehouse" (not verbatim)...hmm...a red herring?

Yes, he came out with a statement a couple of months ago...cant recall all of it now.

I think it will either Amy, Duffy or Leona Lewis. The singer will be female for sure. It's a pity Sade is not around.

But Sade has already had her Bond song: 'Smooth Operator'

They just never got around to doing the song's film.

No, honestly she would probably have done pretty fine IMHO.

Edited by Trident, 07 April 2008 - 03:06 PM.

[Fro]

I don't think they'll go with someone who makes people go "WHO?" in the US, so that rules out Duffy. "Bleeding Love" did just hit #1 here in the US, so Leona Lewis is possible.

[rubixcub]

I heard a lot about Winehouse before ever hearing her sound. The ratio is still very one-sided.

When I heard "You Know I'm No Good" on the radio, I thought it sounded somewhat Bondian, at least in structure and chord progression. I'd approve of her for the job. Very old school vocal, too.

As for lack of involvement from David Arnold, I dunno. I very much enjoyed what he did with "You Know My Name", but "The World is Not Enough" was a tepid, by-the-numbers entry that structurally follows "Surrender", which was in itself, IMO, not very original or striking. By contrast, I think I'm one of the only people around here who LIKES "Tomorrow Never Dies" -- not so much for the vocal, and definitely not for the generic lyrics, but the song structure, chord progressions, and spooky, creeping orchestrations were a nice fit IMO with the picture, giving it a sense of foreboding and fitting nicely with the visual of the opening credits sequence. Arnold's tune, I thought, was too tame and showed itself as having been inspired by past Bond tunes without being inspiring on it's own merits.

Dave

[dee-bee-five]

Excellent news - if it's true. I hope, for once, The Sun is accurate. Still, that'd be a first...

All detractors of this girl should see the silver lining...that her circumstances seem to echo the darkness or mood of Our James' situation into and out of the titles sequence.

The real irony would be if her tragic life consumated itself in some form of overdose.

Would it not be something if an 'event' were to befall this girl AFTER she'd cut the song and BEFORE the premiere*? WHAT a historical occurence that would be?

OTOH, kindly forgive my morbid musings and apologies to anyone I may have offended.

You know this is a real person, yes? You're being very distasteful.

Hence the apology to you and others in the final sentence.

Isn't that called having your cake and eating it...?

"Surrender", which was in itself, IMO, not very original or striking.

Just goes to show we're all different. I happen to think k.d Lang's recording of Surrender is one of the best songs the series has delivered, period. And I so wish it had been chosen as the main title song than the dreary "Tomorrow Never Dies" dirge.

[Mr_Wint]

The most important thing is that David Arnold is heavily involved with the song so that he can use it in the movie score and make it work with the rest of the film! Thats why we call it a Bondsong.

Anyway, Amy Winehouse is a good choice.