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[Andrew]

Would really love to know how many (and which) deleted scenes will be on this...

If I'm reading that features list correctly, it looks to me like there are three:

• Taxes - The scene with Vesper and Bond getting off the train, featuring more extended banter.
• Rescue & Recovery - Perhaps the footage of Bond being wheeled into the hospital, along with more stuff at the clinic?
• Former boyfriend? - The best I can figure for this is the extended Bond/M phone conversation that was abbreviated in the film itself.

That's all!?

If that's all chances are I'll be passing on this one...

[sharpshooter]

To quote Count Dooku, "Surely you can do better!"

[Righty007]

Would really love to know how many (and which) deleted scenes will be on this...

If I'm reading that features list correctly, it looks to me like there are three:

• Taxes - The scene with Vesper and Bond getting off the train, featuring more extended banter.
• Rescue & Recovery - Perhaps the footage of Bond being wheeled into the hospital, along with more stuff at the clinic?
• Former boyfriend? - The best I can figure for this is the extended Bond/M phone conversation that was abbreviated in the film itself.

That's all!?

If that's all chances are I'll be passing on this one...

I won't be passing on it because I'm Eon's punk, sadly.

[Jackanaples]

Would really love to know how many (and which) deleted scenes will be on this...

If I'm reading that features list correctly, it looks to me like there are three:

• Taxes - The scene with Vesper and Bond getting off the train, featuring more extended banter.
• Rescue & Recovery - Perhaps the footage of Bond being wheeled into the hospital, along with more stuff at the clinic?
• Former boyfriend? - The best I can figure for this is the extended Bond/M phone conversation that was abbreviated in the film itself.

Ah. When I read the list, I read Cut Scenes as one feature; Taxes, Rescue & Recovery, and Former Boyfriend? as three more. If you are correct, I will be somewhat less excited about the prospect of picking this new edition up.

[Harmsway]

Ah. When I read the list, I read Cut Scenes as one feature; Taxes, Rescue & Recovery, and Former Boyfriend? as three more. If you are correct, I will be somewhat less excited about the prospect of picking this new edition up.

I originally read that as the case too, but then I realized that it doesn't make a lot of sense to have "Taxes" as a feature title, and it does fit some deleted material. I think those are our deleted scenes, gentlemen. Interesting material, but perhaps not worth buying a new DVD for.

[tdalton]

Ah. When I read the list, I read Cut Scenes as one feature; Taxes, Rescue & Recovery, and Former Boyfriend? as three more. If you are correct, I will be somewhat less excited about the prospect of picking this new edition up.

I originally read that as the case too, but then I realized that it doesn't make a lot of sense to have "Taxes" as a feature title, and it does fit some deleted material. I think those are our deleted scenes, gentlemen. Interesting material, but perhaps not worth buying a new DVD for.

Just to make sure that I've got this right, there's only going to be three deleted scenes included on the disc? If that's the case, then this probably won't be something I'd be interested in purchasing if that's all the deleted material they're going to give us. We know that there's a lot more deleted scenes than this, and that's just based on looking at trailers and other videos.

[Harmsway]

Just to make sure that I've got this right, there's only going to be three deleted scenes included on the disc?

I'm not 100% sure, but that's what I'm guessing.

[tdalton]

Just to make sure that I've got this right, there's only going to be three deleted scenes included on the disc?

I'm not 100% sure, but that's what I'm guessing.

I guess that this means that we can expect a four or five disc set some time down the road to include the rest of the deleted scenes that we know exist. I would have been willing to shell out for another copy of the film if it were truly a comprehensive collector's edition. Since it isn't, they're not getting any more money out of me for this film.

Considering the fact that this is a three disc edition, one would think that there would be more material on there to warrant the third disc. I guess if they come out with the rest of the deleted scenes at some point, they could do it in a ten disc edition, and give each scene its own disc to make it look like there's even more material.

[Harmsway]

I guess that this means that we can expect a four or five disc set some time down the road to include the rest of the deleted scenes that we know exist.

No, I don't think we'll ever see more than a 3-disc set for CASINO ROYALE. I do imagine, however, that there's another edition somewhere down the road, when all the Bond films are re-released again. At that point, I can see CASINO ROYALE getting the upgrade.

I would have been willing to shell out for another copy of the film if it were truly a comprehensive collector's edition. Since it isn't, they're not getting any more money out of me for this film.

Fair enough.

I'm waiting on the reviews. If the reviews comment well enough on the special features and commentary track, I'll pick it up. There is a significant difference between this and the previous DVD edition, even if this one isn't all it could be.

[tdalton]

I'm waiting on the reviews. If the reviews comment well enough on the special features and commentary track, I'll pick it up.

I'm guessing that the commentaries will be the featured extras on this particular edition since there are so few deleted scenes. I know that I may be in the minority opinion on this, but I rarely listen to the commentaries so I don't see myself buying the new edition just for those. Now, if they got a commentary with Daniel Craig, Eva Green, and Barbara Broccoli, then I'd definitely want to give that a listen, but outside of that, I can't say that I'd be all that interested.

No, I don't think we'll ever see more than a 3-disc set for CASINO ROYALE. I do imagine, however, that there's another edition somewhere down the road, when all the Bond films are re-released again. At that point, I can see CASINO ROYALE getting the upgrade.

I was just being saracastic on this point, just based on the appearance that they're putting, at best, two discs worth of material on three discs to make it look as though there's more material than there really is.

I do agree that we probably won't see an edition of CASINO ROYALE that totals more than 3 discs, but given the way that they've gone about releasing the film so far, I can't say that I'd be surprised if they spread it out over a fourth disc.

[Qwerty]

I'm really hoping for some substantial deleted/extended scenes. Casino Royale seems like one of the few Bond films that has a load of interesting unseen material.

[Vauxhall]

I'm really hoping for some substantial deleted/extended scenes. Casino Royale seems like one of the few Bond films that has a load of interesting unseen material.

Agreed. It would be a shame if those were the only three deleted scenes shown on the DVD. I'm also very interested to see the extended pre-credit pursuit through the cricket ground, and Bond and Vesper skinny dipping together in the sea.

[gibraltarmonkey]

Is it true that this disc has been delayed until October in Europe?

[stamper]

I got the word straight from the horsemouth, october for Europe. I'm astounded disc 2 is the same disc we already have in the double set.

At this point, I retract what I have advanced, and says that all those extra probably total 60mn total in lenght and could have fitted as an extra layer on disc 2. Unless the documentary is 90mn long (which I doubt, it will probably be 6-12mn long max), this edition seems a bit rushed.

[sharpshooter]

It seems they are merely upgrading the current DVD. Disappointing if it is the case. They should just put everything on the table and keep their fan base happy.

[stamper]

There's no way they can call this a true special edition unless there's a 60 to 90mn documentary ala Blade Runner Dangerous days, and unless they includes all trailers and TV spots + the Daniel Craig screen test + Trailers for QOS. They could delete disc 2 for all we care, we all got it already !

[tdalton]

There's no way they can call this a true special edition unless there's a 60 to 90mn documentary ala Blade Runner Dangerous days, and unless they includes all trailers and TV spots + the Daniel Craig screen test + Trailers for QOS. They could delete disc 2 for all we care, we all got it already !

Completely agreed. CASINO ROYALE had one of the more interesting pre-productions in the history of the Bond franchise. 2 years to select a new Bond, the whole reboot angle, bringing in an Academy Award winning writer/director to polish the script, etc. With a pre-production as interesting as that, there needs to be a substantial documentary about how all of that ended up happening, because, first of all, it would be interesting to hear the whole story and how everything got done, as well as the fact that there were a lot of rumors going around about the search for the new Bond and other aspects of the film that clouded the picture a bit, and it would be interesting to hear just how everything happened when they were searching for the new Bond.

I would be happy with this edition if we could get a substantial documentary about the film and all of the deleted scenes that we know exist (there are some in the trailers that we know aren't getting put on the DVD, if the list is accurate), but it doesn't appear as though we're going to get either of those.

[Loomis]

There's no way they can call this a true special edition unless there's a 60 to 90mn documentary ala Blade Runner Dangerous days, and unless they includes all trailers and TV spots + the Daniel Craig screen test + Trailers for QOS. They could delete disc 2 for all we care, we all got it already !

Quite. Let's not beat around the bush any more: they're fleecing the fans with a new release with the minimum of new content (for which retailers will doubtless charge as much as the market will bear). This so-called collector's edition could and should have been really exciting and worthwhile, indeed one of the most must-have SEs ever, but it doesn't look like anything more than a halfhearted "Will this do?" job.

I think I'm done buying DVDs anyway (after I've picked up RAMBO, that is). The world of online rental lets me watch anything I want, and as far as collecting goes I'm intending to make the jump to Blu-ray sooner rather than later, so I'll be saving my pennies for that and passing on any more unnecessary purchases of alleged special editions on a dying format. (Similarly, I won't be splashing out on the upcoming Indiana Jones DVD reissues, which would appear to have an equally miserly approach to new extras.)

[tdalton]

There's no way they can call this a true special edition unless there's a 60 to 90mn documentary ala Blade Runner Dangerous days, and unless they includes all trailers and TV spots + the Daniel Craig screen test + Trailers for QOS. They could delete disc 2 for all we care, we all got it already !

Quite. Let's not beat around the bush any more: they're fleecing the fans with a new release with the minimum of new content (for which retailers will doubtless charge as much as the market will bear). This so-called collector's edition could and should have been really exciting and worthwhile, indeed one of the most must-have SEs ever, but it doesn't look like anything more than a halfhearted "Will this do?" job.

Agreed. I'm looking forward to when MGM gets the rights to the franchise back so that the fans will get more substantial releases the first time around, rather than the company trying to squeeze every last penny out of the fans because they know that they can. I remember with DIE ANOTHER DAY, there were plenty of extras on the first DVD release (and enough so that there never was a second, "collector's edition" released if one isn't including the films inclusion in the UE box set).

[00Twelve]

Coming into this discussion late (how in the world did I miss this last week?), I'm glad that this edition is finally coming out.

No, it's not all that it "could" or probably "should" be, but it's still way ahead of the lame edition that came out last year. I'm in the camp that sighs about no EE probably ever coming, but thankfully, CR is an incredible film even without that.

I do wonder, though, why everybody's getting so indignant about getting "cheated" and whatnot. This has been the standard for nearly a decade: Theatrical release, DVD release, movie-geek DVD release 1-2 years later. This is nothing new, and nothing that should have been unexpected. Whether it's right or wrong, it's the system, and we can't have our cake and eat it too. We can have the movie as-is (and believe me, the studios will do all they can to make it look appetizing) several months after the theatrical release, or we can wait a year or so and have the "special" edition that takes time to produce, with all the stuff that hardcore fans care about. We can rant on and on about how unfair it is, but it's the way it is.

This was an extremely predictable move, and one that I've paid consequences for as well. I never bought the initial release, so I haven't been able to watch and savor the film anytime I wanted (and I also probably wasted money by renting it a few times). But I get to buy this one, with the commentaries and deleted scenes and making-of docs that I wanted. They're still consequences, just different from the ones that come from buying the film straight away and getting pissed about "having" to buy it again.

And yes, if CR comes out in an Even-Better-Edition down the road, we'll just have to weigh the costs and decide if it's worth paying more money for it again. Just like we've already done with the SE/UE versions of the Bond collection.

For future reference: This will, in all probability, happen with QOS, too. Don't be surprised.

[Qwerty]

Is it true that this disc has been delayed until October in Europe?

Couldn't say for sure, but I doubt it.

With it still being due for release in France in mid-June (that country being Region 2), I'd say it's a fairly good sign that there aren't any delays yet.

[Harmsway]

No, it's not all that it "could" or probably "should" be, but it's still way ahead of the lame edition that came out last year.

Granted. I'll be picking up this new set for that reason.

[DamnCoffee]

Would really love to know how many (and which) deleted scenes will be on this...

If I'm reading that features list correctly, it looks to me like there are three:

• Taxes - The scene with Vesper and Bond getting off the train, featuring more extended banter.
• Rescue & Recovery - Perhaps the footage of Bond being wheeled into the hospital, along with more stuff at the clinic?
• Former boyfriend? - The best I can figure for this is the extended Bond/M phone conversation that was abbreviated in the film itself.

Really? I was under the impression that there were featurettes and not delated scenes.

[Harmsway]

Really? I was under the impression that there were featurettes and not delated scenes.

They may well be, but that's not my guess. If they're actually featurettes, that's wonderful. I just have trouble seeing what "Paying Taxes" could be as a special feature... Maybe a feature about the accounting that goes into making a Bond film like CASINO ROYALE?

[Qwerty]

No, it's not all that it "could" or probably "should" be, but it's still way ahead of the lame edition that came out last year. I'm in the camp that sighs about no EE probably ever coming, but thankfully, CR is an incredible film even without that.

Indeed. I remember first reading that the initial Casino Royale DVD would feature over "90 minutes of special features!" and that basically an hour of that was allocated to the already-seen Bond Girls Are Forever show.

Talk about disappointment after the 7 hours of extras the the first Die Another Day release had.

[Righty007]

No, it's not all that it "could" or probably "should" be, but it's still way ahead of the lame edition that came out last year. I'm in the camp that sighs about no EE probably ever coming, but thankfully, CR is an incredible film even without that.

Indeed. I remember first reading that the initial Casino Royale DVD would feature over "90 minutes of special features!" and that basically an hour of that was allocated to the already-seen Bond Girls Are Forever show.

Talk about disappointment after the 7 hours of extras the the first Die Another Day release had.

I hate when they advertise "50 hours of bonus material included!" because the average person never gets that many hours worth of enjoyment out of the extras.

[inkling23]

More Extras Confirmed over at DVD Times...
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Bond Girls are Forever (2006)
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How many times are they gonna append Bond Girls Are Forever? Will Miriam D'Abo still host it on the Bond 30 Blu-Ray?

I, for one, thought the original Barry Nelson TV CR would've fit on the upcoming release better than on the Niven version of CR. And wasn't an uncut version of the TV CR on a separate VHS?

And yes, the CR trailers were excellent. Would've been nice to include these as well.

[stamper]

It's a cheat, because they are re-selling us disc 1 & 2 all over again. To include disc 2 exactly as it was in the original version (it probably will be the same disc) is a slap in the face of all those who bought the two disc collectors edition.

[Leon]

Is this version going to be rated 15 with the annoyingly edited out snippets put back in, such as in the torture sequence?

[Qwerty]

Is this version going to be rated 15 with the annoyingly edited out snippets put back in, such as in the torture sequence?

Ah, now that's a good point.

Hopefully it'll be an uncut release on both Region 1 and 2 DVDs this time.