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[darkpath]

"Why didn't you wear your little blue speedos? Maybe you would have won then."

What an utter load of tosh! It may have meant to be a playfull quip, but it definately comes across as being very condescending - not matter how it is said.

I concur and if anything think you understated matters. I consider the blue speedos comment incredibly rude. How Johann Hari could be so narcissistic as to fail to realize his own rudeness is beyond my fathoming.

[Mamadou]

Kudos to Auric64.

I'd totally understand it if Craig felt disappointed. Even if you know you're not going to win, it's still disappointing, because there's always a glimmer of hope that you will win (even if it's completely irrational). I remember auditioning for the title role in "Saint Joan," and I was one of the three finalists (for lack of a better word) for the role. I knew I wouldn't get the part (being then a 16-year-old up against two theatre majors in their 20s), but I still went home crying when I got the news.

So Daniel's reaction is totally justified in my book, even more so because Johann Hari was being a (implied in his blog). I'm actually surprised Daniel didn't take a swing at the guy.

One other thing. The article quotes an anonymous source "close to the actor" that said Daniel "was a classically-trained actor and spent three years with the RSC." Now, I'm not denying that Daniel is classically-trained, but I just ran a check through the RSC archives and there are no records of him. Was this anonymous source* talking about Tim for some reason? The rest of the guy's quote makes sense, but this first part doesn't.





*For anonymous source, read: tweaky, little, chicken- wanna-be. Sorry, but anonymous sources bug me.

[dee-bee-five]

Well. What an unpleasant little episode. Let's hope it's all .

It was in the Daily Mail. Of course it's . Oh, and for those who don't know, the journalist mentioned in the article is a renowned and vile little trouble-maker. My gay solidarity doesn't extend THAT far...

[Bondian]

And don't forget folks, you read it in the Mail first.

I can image how Craig must have felt at the BAFTA's. Probably very nervous and highly strung because of the event. Then some simplistic news hound decides to pop a 'jocular' gag at him expecting a laugh. However. I don't think Craig helps by swearing at people. Doesn't show much self respect, just a bad attitude. I would have ignored the remark as it didn't really call for a logical answer.

At the end of the day. It just proves what drivel the newspapers care to publish for this person to add it for others to read.

Cheers,


Ian

[marktmurphy]

Johann Hari does write some of the most po-faced PC drivel, but on this occasion, if this is anything like an accurate report, I'm afraid Mr Craig appears to have been a bit of a prat.

Oh I think they both were, really. Silly thing of Hari to say and not the most sensible reaction from Craig considering where he was. But again, if someone is rude and provocative to you, why not tell them the way it is?

[bill007]

Well, according to Barbara Broccoli, the blue speedo scene was a fluke. It will certainly end up being one of the more memorable scenes of the movie. I'd bet Daniel was more than tired of hearing references to it all night long.

For me though, the most memorable scene of Casino Royale was the ending. The suit. The big gun. The attitude. And finally, the line: "The name is Bond. James Bond."

[DaveBond21]

If a woman tells me I look great in blue speedos, I love it, and I would still feel errr...flattered, I guess, if a guy said it.

But it was cettainly bad timing.


Also - Daniel Craig is probably the most moody of all the Bond actors. He is no Roger Moore. He will get more and more annoyed about the publicity and comments surrounding the role, and he should be prepared for comments on those speedos for the rest of his life. He is playing James Bond - nobody forgets that.

[Mr_Clark]

If a woman tells me I look great in blue speedos, I love it, and I would still feel errr...flattered, I guess, if a guy said it.

But it was cettainly bad timing.


Also - Daniel Craig is probably the most moody of all the Bond actors. He is no Roger Moore. He will get more and more annoyed about the publicity and comments surrounding the role, and he should be prepared for comments on those speedos for the rest of his life. He is playing James Bond - nobody forgets that.

Understandably so-Given the fact that a bunch of half-wits where bashing the film before it came out. I personally liked Forrest Whittaker's acting in the last king of scottland, but I wouldn't say it was award worthy.

[DaveBond21]

Yes, but unfortunately it's part of the role.

The thing that Daniel Craig is really going to hate, more than perhaps the previous 5 actors who played Bond, is the fact that people will ask him about 007, even when he is promoting another movie.

That is just something that comes with the territory. Admit it, if one of us met him, we'd ask him about Bond.

But he is never going to like that side of things, which is one of the reasons I think he...

1) Will do the 3 Bond movies and move on

2) Will be thoroughly sick of playing the role by then.

[*Gala*]

I actually feel quite sorry for Daniel Craig concerning what he's going through... he's one heck of a James Bond, he doesn't deserve what he's going through at all! First people hated him for being blonde, then all they care about are the swimming trunks, then awards that IMHO he deserves are taken, and now back to the swimming trunks? *sighs* That's just too much for anybody to put up with, even James Bond! As for the credibility of the sources, I no longer know what to believe as far as the media is concerned... that journalist was a dumb bloke, that's all I'm certain about for now!

Alas, at least I hope he is comforted by the fact that he has some true fans around who understand what James Bond is all about!

[Bondian]

Yup. It's gone from his neuro to his never regions.

Just proves that there's no safe region for Bond. lol

[DaveBond21]

Alas, at least I hope he is comforted by the fact that he has some true fans around who understand what James Bond is all about!

I don't think he wants "James Bond Fans". I think he wants to be appreciated as an actor for his work.

[*Gala*]

Touche... that one too! Although I do suppose quite a few Bond fans have been appreciate of his works before he landed this role. And others are beginning to notice him more as an actor cuz of it.

[DaveBond21]

Yeah, that is true.


But he would have been warned about the pressure of playing 007 before he took the role. And that includes the sillier aspects of it, like being asked about swimming shorts or your hair colour.

[Jim]

Johann Hari does write some of the most po-faced PC drivel, but on this occasion, if this is anything like an accurate report, I'm afraid Mr Craig appears to have been a bit of a prat.

Oh I think they both were, really. Silly thing of Hari to say and not the most sensible reaction from Craig considering where he was. But again, if someone is rude and provocative to you, why not tell them the way it is?

True enough. If it happened. The combination of The Daily Mail, Johann Hari and that we're all well aware that any old story about "James Bond" still sells, the last 18 months example enough, leaves me "doubtful".

[supernova]

Well now that we have such a feisty Daniel Craig playing James Bond we can at least be finally rid of the misnomer - James Bland!

[dee-bee-five]

Johann Hari does write some of the most po-faced PC drivel, but on this occasion, if this is anything like an accurate report, I'm afraid Mr Craig appears to have been a bit of a prat.

Oh I think they both were, really. Silly thing of Hari to say and not the most sensible reaction from Craig considering where he was. But again, if someone is rude and provocative to you, why not tell them the way it is?

True enough. If it happened. The combination of The Daily Mail, Johann Hari and that we're all well aware that any old story about "James Bond" still sells, the last 18 months example enough, leaves me "doubtful".

Wise words. The track record of the Mail and Hari means this has to be taken with a huge pinch of salt.

But part of me hopes it is true. I rather like the idea of a bad boy playing Bond for a change. If he DID give Hari a rough ride (ooer, missus!), it shows he has real balls. Nothing wrong with that in my book.

[SilencedPPK]

That was a sarcastic comment made to Craig. I probably would've said the same thing. I for one, don't think any less of Craig for being "upset". I think he's a great actor, and I think he did well as Bond. He's human for God sakes. He's allowed to make mistakes. But since he is an actor, and 'Bond', people think that he should act like him, or whatever. I for one don't really care. His work is fabulous, and I have enjoyed the movies that I have seen him in. Tabloids... attention seekers. Pathetic.

[RazorBlade]

That was a sarcastic comment made to Craig. I probably would've said the same thing. I for one, don't think any less of Craig for being "upset". I think he's a great actor, and I think he did well as Bond. He's human for God sakes. He's allowed to make mistakes. But since he is an actor, and 'Bond', people think that he should act like him, or whatever. I for one don't really care. His work is fabulous, and I have enjoyed the movies that I have seen him in. Tabloids... attention seekers. Pathetic.

I agree. This Johann Hari character was no better than a popperozi (or however you spell it) trying to provoke our man for a story. DC needn't worry about popping that guy, I think a number of us are taking that shot in our imaginations. The imagi-nation being the largest country there is.

[marktmurphy]

Johann Hari does write some of the most po-faced PC drivel, but on this occasion, if this is anything like an accurate report, I'm afraid Mr Craig appears to have been a bit of a prat.

Oh I think they both were, really. Silly thing of Hari to say and not the most sensible reaction from Craig considering where he was. But again, if someone is rude and provocative to you, why not tell them the way it is?

True enough. If it happened. The combination of The Daily Mail, Johann Hari and that we're all well aware that any old story about "James Bond" still sells, the last 18 months example enough, leaves me "doubtful".

Yes, maybe; although it doesn't sound too far-fetched. I don't buy the Mail's version of anything, but Hari didn't exactly sound proud of his actions or that he thought Craig had acted particularly badly.

[Humphrey Bogart]

Well watching the BAFTAS makes me wonder...

Would Daniel Craig win a BAFTA if he played Idi Amin?

[JLaidlaw]

This thing about other Bond actors not getting so annoyed, surely a total myth. Sean Connery famously insulted the Japanese reporters by being a little disgruntled, Pierce gave almost angry reactions whenever asked about how he would be different from Connery and Moore (not to mention his bitter attacks on the character after just leaving). Lazenby was famously bad-tempered when meeting the press, and even Roger Moore was once provoked into bubbling anger by Dame Edna teasing him about being 'knitting-pattern man', though to a much lesser extent. No swearing from the first three Bonds, but I'm sure Pierce swore often enough for the gutter press.

Craig didn't insult the journalist because he was in a bad mood, he would have done so anyway. Though minus the swearing, what Hari said was far more condescending than what Craig said back to him. Though I wouldn't have sworn, I think Craig's reaction was totally justified, this Hari seems to see himself as Dennis Pennis, the difference being Pennis was actually funny. I totally agree with the people who watched the Baftas, Daniel Craig seemed to be enjoying himself. One thing I would say though was that Craig's presentation of the award for best supporting actress was poor.

[dodge]

This thing about other Bond actors not getting so annoyed, surely a total myth. Sean Connery famously insulted the Japanese reporters by being a little disgruntled, Pierce gave almost angry reactions whenever asked about how he would be different from Connery and Moore (not to mention his bitter attacks on the character after just leaving). Lazenby was famously bad-tempered when meeting the press, and even Roger Moore was once provoked into bubbling anger by Dame Edna teasing him about being 'knitting-pattern man', though to a much lesser extent. No swearing from the first three Bonds, but I'm sure Pierce swore often enough for the gutter press.
Craig didn't insult the journalist because he was in a bad mood, he would have done so anyway. Though minus the swearing, what Hari said was far more condescending than what Craig said back to him. Though I wouldn't have sworn, I think Craig's reaction was totally justified, this Hari seems to see himself as Dennis Pennis, the difference being Pennis was actually funny. I totally agree with the people who watched the Baftas, Daniel Craig seemed to be enjoying himself. One thing I would say though was that Craig's presentation of the award for best supporting actress was poor.

Very interesting point there. I was thinking along the same lines yesterday and I am convinced: Connery, in his prime, would have given Hari a far worse tongue-lashing at the very least. And Laz would have laid the guy flat with one blow. Even Brozza has strict limits to what he will suffer and I can see him going quickly icy cold.Good for them and anyone who says "Enough's enough."

[erniecureo]

I think we're assuming that the article is true. Personally, I think it's a load of crap. Whether it's a true supermarket tabloid or People magazine, there's always someone with magical powers who "knows" what someone else is feeling.

"Each clap fractured his heart."

"He was incandescent with rage."

And calling the "reporter" a f...ing fool? So what? Seems to me it was simply an accurate comment. The whole thing is horse. It's not journalism, and it isn't interesting...except to the sad little people whose idea of living is watching television and wondering what real people do.

[marktmurphy]

I think we're assuming that the article is true. Personally, I think it's a load of crap. Whether it's a true supermarket tabloid or People magazine, there's always someone with magical powers who "knows" what someone else is feeling.

"Each clap fractured his heart."

"He was incandescent with rage."

And calling the "reporter" a f...ing fool? So what? Seems to me it was simply an accurate comment. The whole thing is horse. It's not journalism, and it isn't interesting...except to the sad little people whose idea of living is watching television and wondering what real people do.

Feel free not to comment if you're not interested...

And no, I wouldn't buy the Mail's account, but there's no reason to disbelieve Hari's account- nothing particularly scandalous happens and Hari isn't exactly painting himself as the wronged man; he comes out looking as bad, if not worse than, Craig.

[Bon-san]

The whole thing is horse. It's not journalism, and it isn't interesting...except to the sad little people whose idea of living is watching television and wondering what real people do.

, you've found me out!

[erniecureo]

Feel free not to comment if you're not interested...

Sorry...as you can tell, this kind of thing is a bit of a hot button with me! I'll try not to sprain my ankle as I climb off my soapbox...

[supernova]

Oh! Daniel the U.K. press are always going to give you a hard time. Its so sad.

[Eva]

The UK press just know that Daniel sells papers at the moment - hopefully he can just get used to it.

There's been loads of articles about him in the tabloids just in the past 7 days - one silly one about his gilrfriend always looking miserable because she is worried he's going to run off with someone else because he's so good looking / one silly one about how he'll be more remembered for his trunks than his acting, etc. And of course they all use any excuse to print another sexy picture of him ......

I know I shouldn't look at these things - but I worry that as he's obviously sensitive it'll put him off being James Bond and wish to be anonymous again!

[Dunph]

All of this is lovely, but we all know the REAL question is:

Where the was Stephen Fry this year? I can't believe they let the smug, self-aggrandising Ross host the BAFTAs this year. Where was the class?