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#1 Loomis

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Posted 19 November 2006 - 06:09 PM

If we dig deep enough, perhaps we'll find that CR is every bit as much of an in-joke fest as DAD. :)

So, then, a couple of references to earlier Bond flicks. Any I've missed?

- Tsai Chin (Ling in YOLT ["Darling, I give you very best duck"]) has a minor role as Mrs Wu.

- Bond refers to the Aston Martin as a 1964 model. That was the year of GOLDFINGER, when audiences first saw 007 with that car.

- (A bit tenuous, this one, and it's hard to believe it's a "DAD tribute", as such, but, anyway....) M's failure to do a proper background check on Vesper recalls her failure to do one on Miranda Frost.

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Posted 19 November 2006 - 06:22 PM

Doesn't exactly reference any Bond movie in particular, but I'd call it an in joke.
-Bond suggesting Vesper take a more "traditional" bond girl name as an alias. What was it, something Bigbreasts?

Edited by capungo, 19 November 2006 - 06:22 PM.


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Posted 19 November 2006 - 06:24 PM

I dont know the connection but the boat La Chiffre is playing cards on is called the Sunseeker.

#4 Loomis

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Posted 19 November 2006 - 06:25 PM

Oh. Monsieur Largo's boat? :)

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Posted 19 November 2006 - 06:29 PM

Doesn't exactly reference any Bond movie in particular, but I'd call it an in joke.
-Bond suggesting Vesper take a more "traditional" bond girl name as an alias. What was it, something Bigbreasts?


It was Miss Stephanie Broadchest, heiress.

What other nods were there? There was the refernece to Rolex watches, which the Bond of the books, as well as Connery's Bond wore.

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Posted 19 November 2006 - 06:33 PM

Ah yes, thanks OHMSS Spion 007. Oh, here's another one.
-The Bond/Honey Ryder moment :)

Edited by capungo, 19 November 2006 - 06:33 PM.


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Posted 19 November 2006 - 07:19 PM

Bond goes into cardiac arrest in DAD and CR.

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Posted 19 November 2006 - 07:29 PM

- Bond refers to the Aston Martin as a 1964 model. That was the year of GOLDFINGER, when audiences first saw 007 with that car.


Hmm. Well, it is a 1964 model, though. Bond, as a car nut, would know that. I think the fact that it is a DB5 is more of a nod than the year it was made, as that rather follows.

I dont know the connection but the boat La Chiffre is playing cards on is called the Sunseeker.


That's just the name of the manufacturer. The same posh boats as in the last couple of films, yes, but that's like saying his Mondeo is a tribute to the rental Ford he drove in AVTAK!

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Posted 19 November 2006 - 07:37 PM

Well, if the epaulettes on his the shirt on his arrival at the Bahamas hotel isn't a nod to Rog Bond, then why else would he be wearing such a shirt in 2006?

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Posted 19 November 2006 - 07:45 PM

Well, if the epaulettes on his the shirt on his arrival at the Bahamas hotel isn't a nod to Rog Bond, then why else would he be wearing such a shirt in 2006?


Um... I've got a few shirts with epaulettes in the wardrobe. I like them and they're in lots of shops right now.

Clearly the whole film is a tribute to On Her Majesty's Secret Service:

This film featuring a new actor as James Bond, has him fall in love with a woman for the first time- she even saves his life at one point. Bond talks of leaving the service for her. She doesn't make it to the end credits but the organisation responsible for her death are not caught; in this film at least. He also drives an Aston Martin DBS with no gadgets apart from a secret compartment in the glove compartment which conceals a gun. Bond is also seen in a Ford (thanks to a marketing deal with the company) in this film, in which he is also seen writing his resignation to M. He has a vicious fight in the hotel next to a casino in which he has just been gambling on a card game. Bond's mission involves stopping a terrorist whose plan involves invoking terror incidents in order to affect the stock market. The Bond theme blares loudly over the end credits.


No; hang on:

A Bond film in which the Bond theme hardly appears; practically no gadgets and certainly no big save-the-day gadget for Bond, starring one the best and most celebrated actors the series has ever seen; in which Bond drives a dull Ford saloon; with a whole new type of Bond girl (who dies at the end :) ); all revolving around a sandy-haired Bond whose looks in this film have been somewhat contentious and rounded off with a much rockier main title theme....

It's a tribute to A View To A Kill!

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Posted 19 November 2006 - 07:47 PM


Well, if the epaulettes on his the shirt on his arrival at the Bahamas hotel isn't a nod to Rog Bond, then why else would he be wearing such a shirt in 2006?


Um... I've got a few shirts with epaulettes in the wardrobe. I like them and they're in lots of shops right now.


Are you being serious?

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Posted 19 November 2006 - 07:56 PM



Well, if the epaulettes on his the shirt on his arrival at the Bahamas hotel isn't a nod to Rog Bond, then why else would he be wearing such a shirt in 2006?


Um... I've got a few shirts with epaulettes in the wardrobe. I like them and they're in lots of shops right now.


Are you being serious?


Of course. I hesitate to say I'm in style, but they are reasonably well regarded at the moment. Why's that so hard to believe?

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Posted 19 November 2006 - 08:17 PM

Clearly this film is a nod to Diamonds Are Forever: the Other Bond Girl does not have sex with Bond and she is murdered. And both films are the only one-woman Bond films....unless you count David Niven's Bond.

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Posted 19 November 2006 - 11:07 PM

Clearly the whole film is a tribute to On Her Majesty's Secret Service:

This film featuring a new actor as James Bond, has him fall in love with a woman for the first time- she even saves his life at one point. Bond talks of leaving the service for her. She doesn't make it to the end credits but the organisation responsible for her death are not caught; in this film at least. He also drives an Aston Martin DBS with no gadgets apart from a secret compartment in the glove compartment which conceals a gun. Bond is also seen in a Ford (thanks to a marketing deal with the company) in this film, in which he is also seen writing his resignation to M. He has a vicious fight in the hotel next to a casino in which he has just been gambling on a card game. Bond's mission involves stopping a terrorist whose plan involves invoking terror incidents in order to affect the stock market. The Bond theme blares loudly over the end credits.


I would have to agree with you Marktmurhpy. It does have a lot of plot similarities to OHMSS. Not that that is a bad thing because I personally believe George Lazenby's outing as Bond to be one of the best in the series.

You can also add that Bond travels by train to get to the destination where he finally confronts the villian for the first time in both films. Furthermore he orders Beluga caviar in both films (don't think he has ordered caviar in any Bond film since OHMSS if I am correct).

Edited by ckoch, 19 November 2006 - 11:09 PM.


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Posted 19 November 2006 - 11:27 PM

Isn't the scene with Craig rising from the water supposed to be a bit of an homage to Ursula Andress? That's what a lot of the reviews have been saying when they talk about Craig.

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 12:09 AM




Well, if the epaulettes on his the shirt on his arrival at the Bahamas hotel isn't a nod to Rog Bond, then why else would he be wearing such a shirt in 2006?


Um... I've got a few shirts with epaulettes in the wardrobe. I like them and they're in lots of shops right now.


Are you being serious?


Of course. I hesitate to say I'm in style, but they are reasonably well regarded at the moment. Why's that so hard to believe?


I have number of shirts and even a few safari suit-ish jackets in my wardrobe from quite well-known designers that I wear semi-regularly. They are quite well regarded as they've been appearing in several men's style magazines over the past year or so. In one magazine I have 1970's Roger Moore was used as an example of the kind of style that's coming back. But with a modern touch, obviously.

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 01:37 AM

As in (dare I say it) Die Another Day, we have a locked in and (almost) drowning Bond Girl.

Thinking about it, I notice that we also had this in TND (Wai Lin) and TWINE (Christmas Jones).

Looks like P&W finally got it right. The bitch is dead, now. No need to have it again in Bond 22.

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 04:07 AM

This one is obviously a coincidence, but the end scene with Mr.White is remarkably similar to the one in LAYER CAKE where Craig and the hitman wait for 'The Dragon'. Craig phones the Dragon to confirm his identity, and the hitman is unexpectedly shot from a distance by the Dragon who has been watching them.

In CR, Mr.White answers the phone and is unexpectedly shot from a distance by Bond who has been watching him.

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 09:23 AM




Well, if the epaulettes on his the shirt on his arrival at the Bahamas hotel isn't a nod to Rog Bond, then why else would he be wearing such a shirt in 2006?


Um... I've got a few shirts with epaulettes in the wardrobe. I like them and they're in lots of shops right now.


Are you being serious?


Of course. I hesitate to say I'm in style, but they are reasonably well regarded at the moment. Why's that so hard to believe?


I am an admitted non-following of what might be described as trends in fashion, but I also have some genuine scars having worn those types of shirts (against my will, I was under my parents influence) first time round :) .

But those two facts together and you will understand my surprise at men wearing such shirts these days. Sorry.

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 10:25 AM

Bond's second kill in the pre credits has lovely echoes of Bond and Professor Dent in Dr. No.

Edited by dee-bee-five, 20 November 2006 - 10:25 AM.


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Posted 20 November 2006 - 05:09 PM

the whole Vesper situation gives more understanding to the Elektra King affair in TWINE

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 05:44 PM

The suit Craig wears in the end scene is an exact replica (or so I was told) of Connery's blue three piece in Thunderball..

The Venice scene reminded me so much of FRWL.. isn't the boat that Craig is driving toward the end at least very similar if not identical to the model Connery drives in the boat chase in FRWL?

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 06:01 PM

I'm sorry deth,

But I do not understand what you meant about the Bond/Elecktra relationship in TWINE.

:)

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 06:16 PM

There's no Moneypenny, but as Vepser says "I'm the money" he answered "Every penny of it". Got it? :)

Edited by # 11, 20 November 2006 - 06:17 PM.


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Posted 20 November 2006 - 06:32 PM

I saw3 in the Trailer a sequence of Vesper taking a P99 out of an evelopment and giving it to Bond. It reminded to the elevator ("Let's meke a proper familiar meeting, give me your gun") sequence in LTK.

A quick question, what version of YKMN did you hear during the titles: The Video Clip version or the 1st version available ??? (In the Video Clip version cornell says "I've seen this diamond...", and in the 1st version he says "I've seen diamonds...")

Thanks.

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 06:50 PM





Well, if the epaulettes on his the shirt on his arrival at the Bahamas hotel isn't a nod to Rog Bond, then why else would he be wearing such a shirt in 2006?


Um... I've got a few shirts with epaulettes in the wardrobe. I like them and they're in lots of shops right now.


Are you being serious?


Of course. I hesitate to say I'm in style, but they are reasonably well regarded at the moment. Why's that so hard to believe?


I am an admitted non-following of what might be described as trends in fashion, but I also have some genuine scars having worn those types of shirts (against my will, I was under my parents influence) first time round :) .

But those two facts together and you will understand my surprise at men wearing such shirts these days. Sorry.


Enjoyed reading these posts. As someone who works in the security industry and is ex-military, all my work shirts have epaulettes for my ID No. As I spend most of my time working, I was happy to see this in CR :P Sad, I know!

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 09:11 PM

When Bond kills Demetrius, sits him down on a chair and then pats him on the face reminded me of Thunderball and Volpe's demise: 'She's dead tired.'

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 10:28 PM

I think that after 20 films of James Bond, we'll find plenty of apparent perceived "in-jokes" which in fact were totally accidental on the part of the production team. I guess it's tough to find entirely unique scenes after so long.

#29 Loomis

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 10:35 PM

- (A bit tenuous, this one, and it's hard to believe it's a "DAD tribute", as such, but, anyway....) M's failure to do a proper background check on Vesper recalls her failure to do one on Miranda Frost.


Another curious "DAD tribute" that can't possibly have been any such thing as far as the filmmakers were concerned but is nonetheless the kind of moment the rabid trainspotting fanboy picks up on:

People are evacuated from a building as overhead sprinklers rain down on them.

Also, Bond utters the line "I wouldn't dream of it" - a GOLDENEYE in-joke?

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Posted 21 November 2006 - 12:12 AM

A Bond film in which the Bond theme hardly appears; practically no gadgets and certainly no big save-the-day gadget for Bond, starring one the best and most celebrated actors the series has ever seen; in which Bond drives a dull Ford saloon; with a whole new type of Bond girl (who dies at the end :P ); all revolving around a sandy-haired Bond whose looks in this film have been somewhat contentious and rounded off with a much rockier main title theme....

It's a tribute to A View To A Kill!

LOL! I almost fell off my chair when I saw him driving the Ford (was it Taurus?), thinking he'd sail in on the AMDBS. :)