Bond 22 Title: "Coded Lies"?
#1
Posted 24 July 2006 - 12:47 PM
http://www.kelboa.ci...81397/53437.htm
After the statement by EON revealing that Bond 22 would be released in May 2008, the title for the film has been revealed. Bond 22 has been issued with the working title Coded Lies. In a rare interview Michael G Wilson said "we were going to use the title Risico from a Fleming short story. We later discovered that in Japan Risico means "rice". The title Coded Lies may reveal clues about the plot of Bond 22. M is reportedly assasinated in Coded Lies and as a result 007 goes off on a vendetta to avenge her killers. This plotline will also interwine with 007 once again meeting the mysterious Mr.White. This news certainly seems plausible. After all whilst Dame Judi Dench is considered by many Bond fans as the best M some have said she has become too old for the part.
#2
Posted 24 July 2006 - 01:02 PM
#3
Posted 24 July 2006 - 01:04 PM
In a rare interview Michael G Wilson said "we were going to use the title Risico from a Fleming short story. We later discovered that in Japan Risico means "rice".
I've studied Japanese for some years and lived in Japan, and while I'm far from 100% fluent I've never heard of "risico" or anything sounding remotely like it meaning "rice" in Japanese.
Also, I really doubt that they'd use a title so reminiscent of TRUE LIES.
#4
Posted 24 July 2006 - 01:18 PM
But yeah, "Coded Lies" isn't very Bondian. Don't like the prospect of another vendetta story line either. Bunch of rubbish.
#5
Posted 24 July 2006 - 01:30 PM
#6
Posted 24 July 2006 - 02:19 PM
#7
Posted 24 July 2006 - 02:20 PM
So in other words entirely made up.
#8
Posted 24 July 2006 - 02:25 PM
And if it did mean "rice" in Japanese, they'd do what they've always done: call it something else in Japan. What a pile of cack. Where's the article from, JCRendle?
The URL is in the topic
http://www.kelboa.ci...81397/53437.htm
I went to the site and is is obviously a fan site.
#9
Posted 24 July 2006 - 03:13 PM
The reported storyline has me actually not believing it one bit, because it doesn't really match up with the script for CASINO ROYALE all that well and sounds like a bit of fan suggestion.
Furthermore, the "Risico means rice in Japan" excuse also doesn't wash, seeing as foreign releases of Bond films are generally given entirely different titles anyhow. And from what I understand, risico *doesn't* mean rice in Japan, either.
#10
Posted 24 July 2006 - 03:29 PM
#11
Posted 24 July 2006 - 03:51 PM
#12
Posted 24 July 2006 - 04:19 PM
Utter B.S. is what I think..
#13
Posted 24 July 2006 - 04:23 PM
#14
Posted 24 July 2006 - 08:04 PM
#15
Posted 24 July 2006 - 08:10 PM
#16
Posted 24 July 2006 - 08:24 PM
I'd say "Coded Lies" kinda sums up the validity of the article
^^^^
This website spams like you wouldn't believe. It's pure trash. Wilson won't even tell us the exact budget or who is singing the theme song to CR, I mean who would believe he would give away the entire plot to Bond 22 as well as the title in an interview prior to Casino Royale being released.
Blows my mind that anyone would think this up.
#17
Posted 24 July 2006 - 08:24 PM
And haven't vendetta storylines been done to death for now?
Eon doesn't seem to think so. Sadly, this is the one part of this rubbish report I find believable. We've had nothing but personal missions for Bond to a greater or lesser extent for almost 20 years. An exciting and welcome tagline for a future 007 flick would be "This time it's NOT personal"!
#18
Posted 24 July 2006 - 08:29 PM
And you never know, just because he goes off to avenge her doesnt mean he has to do it with angst and sorrow. Perhaps he feels he has to do it because of the simple fact that she's his boss.
#19
Posted 24 July 2006 - 08:37 PM
http://www.kelboa.ci...666/1063272.htm
How inconvinient that they 'seem to have taken it off at the moment'!
If you ask me, its all rather a load of ****
Edited by iexpectu2die, 24 July 2006 - 08:37 PM.
#20
Posted 24 July 2006 - 08:46 PM
Considering CASINO ROYALE does end with something of a sequel ending, I think we will be seeing the vendetta side of things in BOND 22. :::shrugs:::Eon doesn't seem to think so. Sadly, this is the one part of this rubbish report I find believable. We've had nothing but personal missions for Bond to a greater or lesser extent for almost 20 years. An exciting and welcome tagline for a future 007 flick would be "This time it's NOT personal"!
And haven't vendetta storylines been done to death for now?
#21
Posted 24 July 2006 - 09:55 PM
Fortanetly Casino Royale doesnt get to personal, so we'll at least get a breather between "this time it's personal" style flicks. If in fact, Bond 22 has that aspect to it.
#22
Posted 24 July 2006 - 10:01 PM
Sadly, though, I can well believe that this is Michael G. Wilson's rumoured brilliant idea for the next film.
#23
Posted 24 July 2006 - 10:04 PM
#24
Posted 24 July 2006 - 10:08 PM
I don't think Bond needs to show any loyalty to her to want to avenge her, he just has to feel it's the right thing to do
Well, true. But I'd much prefer it if they made Dench's M a surprise villain and Bond had to take her out. Would finally explain her baffling bitchiness, for one thing.
#25
Posted 24 July 2006 - 10:18 PM
#26
Posted 24 July 2006 - 10:50 PM
How inconvinient that they 'seem to have taken it off at the moment'!
There ya go then. Pretty bad title.
#27
Posted 24 July 2006 - 10:51 PM
This is pure, unadulterated B.S.
The reported storyline has me actually not believing it one bit, because it doesn't really match up with the script for CASINO ROYALE all that well and sounds like a bit of fan suggestion.
Furthermore, the "Risico means rice in Japan" excuse also doesn't wash, seeing as foreign releases of Bond films are generally given entirely different titles anyhow. And from what I understand, risico *doesn't* mean rice in Japan, either.
What does "B.S" mean?
#28
Posted 24 July 2006 - 11:50 PM
Actually, I'm wondering if the title 'Coded Lies' says it all really about the validity of this story!
#29
Posted 25 July 2006 - 02:32 PM
#30
Posted 25 July 2006 - 04:26 PM
I don't think Bond needs to show any loyalty to her to want to avenge her, he just has to feel it's the right thing to do
Well, true. But I'd much prefer it if they made Dench's M a surprise villain and Bond had to take her out. Would finally explain her baffling bitchiness, for one thing.
Just noticed this; where's M so bitchy? In GE and DAD, yes (especially the former), but that I felt it worked well enough in the context of those films; in GE, she's new to the job, with a bunch of underlings who don't have much respect for her, forcing her to assert herself, and in DAD, she suspects 007's been leaking information to the North Koreans; later, she does accept him back. In TND and TWINE meanwhile (and later in DAD too), M obviously does respect Bond, and indeed generally lets him get on with things.
I'll grant that she does seem somewhat incompetent at times, especially in TWINE (she goes from far too sappy to just careless), as well as not checking Miranda Frost's references properly, but I don't think you can damn her for being horrible to 007. Okay, rant over!
Back on topic, 'Death to Spies' is a marginally better title, but still quite rubbish, and probably just as much cow mess.