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[DLibrasnow]

At the Washington DC signing of the book SILVERFIN, when yours truly asked about references to the adult Bond in SILVERFIN and the other Young Bond books, Higson mentioned that the father of a future 007 villain is in SILVERFIN. He said that was a reference for Bond fans to figure out.

Any ideas?

[Bondian]

Blofeld perhaps?.

[DLibrasnow]

That would make sense...but I'm not sure where the clues are for that. Apparently Bond fans are supposed to catch the clues.

[Bondian]

Are there any bald headed friends of James Bond?.

[DLibrasnow]

LOL

[Blofeld's Cat]

That would make sense...but I'm not sure where the clues are for that. Apparently Bond fans are supposed to catch the clues.

As the book's target demographic is young readers perhaps the Bond villain is from the movies rather than the Fleming books.

[K1Bond007]

Well "Joe Butcher" is the henchman from Licence to Kill, played by Wayne Newton, but that doesn't make much sense I'm afraid.

[Righty007]

Tommy Chong is a pothead not a Bond villain...

[zencat]

Goldfinger's son maybe?

Or Hugo Drax?

I could see both these men shipping their brats off to Eton.

Very intriguing bit of news, Dlibs. I wonder which book this character will be in?

[K1Bond007]

Goldfinger's son maybe?

Or Hugo Drax?

I could see both these men shipping their brats off to Eton.

Very intriguing bit of news, Dlibs. I wonder which book this character will be in?

Can't be Drax. He was roughly the same age as Bond. He was a soldier in WW2 anyway. This is who I thought of first. Can't really be Goldfinger either. He didn't move to England till 1937 and he was born in 1917 which makes him only 3 years older than Bond according to the 1920 birth year.

I think we're going to find that its either someone from the films or that its a low-key henchmen from the novel such as Dr. Walter from Moonraker. My thoughts anyway. I'd love to know who

[Trempo]

In Moonraker is a man called Max Meyer. He is Drax metal broker and plays cards with him. They play against M and Bond. Meyer is a Jew.
In SilverFin is a boy called Freddie Meyer. He is a German-Jew. Bond chats with him to practice his German.
Maybe there is a connection. But I don't know if you can count Max Meyer as a villain.

[Loomis]

Well, all we know is that Higson mentioned that the son of a future 007 villain is in "SilverFin".

Perhaps this "future 007 villain" will turn up in a Higson book. Might not be a villain we've heard of in the Flemings or the films, etc.; for instance, it might just be that Tommy Chong's or Pritpal Nandra's father (or mother) is a baddie who wants to take over the world, as we'll find out in book three.

Or perhaps the son of a future villain is James Bond?

[K1Bond007]

Well, all we know is that Higson mentioned that the son of a future 007 villain is in "SilverFin".

Perhaps this "future 007 villain" will turn up in a Higson book. Might not be a villain we've heard of in the Flemings or the films, etc.; for instance, it might just be that Tommy Chong's or Pritpal Nandra's father (or mother) is a baddie who wants to take over the world, as we'll find out in book three.

Or perhaps the son of a future villain is James Bond?

Possibly, but then why would he say something to the effect of "letting Bond fans" figure it out.

We need more clues

- The Max Meyer one is the most plausible one right now.

Edited by K1Bond007, 07 May 2005 - 03:00 PM.

[zencat]

I doubt this will be a movie character. Everything I hear tells me Higson and IFP are really trying to root these books firmly in a realistic literary timeline with the Fleming books.

I love that Hisgon dropped this hint and I hope it's revealed in a future book. You know, after reading SilverFin, and especially after hearing Higson speak, I've really become a BIG fan of the Young Bond series. I now have a lot of confidence in IFP and the directions they are taking the literary Bond (much more than Eon and the cinematic Bond

[zencat]

In Moonraker is a man called Max Meyer. He is Drax metal broker and plays cards with him. They play against M and Bond. Meyer is a Jew.
In SilverFin is a boy called Freddie Meyer. He is a German-Jew. Bond chats with him to practice his German.
Maybe there is a connection. But I don't know if you can count Max Meyer as a villain.

I think that's an excellent guess.

[hrabb04]

Blofeld's son sits around with his classmates and friends at Eton, talking about how wonderful a shaved scrotum is, and of his real mother Chloe had webbed feet.

[Johnboy007]

In Moonraker is a man called Max Meyer. He is Drax metal broker and plays cards with him. They play against M and Bond. Meyer is a Jew.
In SilverFin is a boy called Freddie Meyer. He is a German-Jew. Bond chats with him to practice his German.
Maybe there is a connection. But I don't know if you can count Max Meyer as a villain.

I think Trempo's correct. Fits the description perfectly and makes perfect sense.

[Qwerty]

In Moonraker is a man called Max Meyer. He is Drax metal broker and plays cards with him. They play against M and Bond. Meyer is a Jew.
In SilverFin is a boy called Freddie Meyer. He is a German-Jew. Bond chats with him to practice his German.
Maybe there is a connection. But I don't know if you can count Max Meyer as a villain.

Nice catch Trempo! Maybe that's it.

[zencat]

But can Meyer be considered a villain?

[K1Bond007]

But can Meyer be considered a villain?

Thats what I was thinking, but then again there aren't many characters in the book that attend Eton. Really theres just Hellebore's gang, Bond and his 3 or so friends, Butcher, Meyer, and thats about it.

When I read Moonraker I didn't get the feeling that Meyer was a villain. An accomplice to a cheat in a game of cards more or less. I don't know...

Edited by zencat, 08 May 2005 - 01:07 AM.

[David Schofield]

Best guess is Tommy Chong is Dr No's son.

Now, when did Dr No flee the Chineese Tongs?

[K1Bond007]

Best guess is Tommy Chong is Dr No's son.

Now, when did Dr No flee the Chineese Tongs?

Late 1920s, but the the Tongs caught him later, perhaps early 1930s. While the connection is possible, assuming the boy is Bonds approximate age, Dr. No would have been in America at the time of birth, not Hong Kong, and No was from Peking (and I think, although don't quote me, that he spent some time in Shanghai) before going to the New York.

[Mister Asterix]

A quick thought:

Since SilverFin features a circus perhaps there is a Scaramanga connection.

[DLibrasnow]

A quick thought:

Since SilverFin features a circus perhaps there is a Scaramanga connection.

Wasn't Red Grant from a circus background....or have I lost my marbles.

I think this Meyer character is the best guess. I got the impression we (Bond fans) were supposed to be able to catch it (ie not speculate).

[zencat]

Dlibra, are you sure Higson said "son of a Bond villain" and not "father of a Bond villain"?

[Mister Asterix]

A quick thought:

Since SilverFin features a circus perhaps there is a Scaramanga connection.

Wasn't Red Grant from a circus background....or have I lost my marbles.

I think this Meyer character is the best guess. I got the impression we (Bond fans) were supposed to be able to catch it (ie not speculate).

[mra]That

[Mister Asterix]

[quote name='Mister Asterix' date='7 May 2005 - 20:33'][quote name='DLibrasnow' date='7 May 2005 - 20:00'][quote name='Mister Asterix' date='7 May 2005 - 17:33']A quick thought:

Since SilverFin features a circus perhaps there is a Scaramanga connection.

[/quote]

Wasn't Red Grant from a circus background....or have I lost my marbles.

I think this Meyer character is the best guess. I got the impression we (Bond fans) were supposed to be able to catch it (ie not speculate).

[/quote]

[mra]That

[zencat]

Mystery solved...with a nice "surprise" twist at the end.

[DLibrasnow]

That'll teach me to try and report something from memory alone...I always tell reporters if its not on tape, or in your notes - don't write it. LOL.

Well there was so much info being given out last night I'm really not surprised....pretty cool.

[zencat]

That's okay, made it harder to guess.

I still like Trempo's Max Meyer theory. So maybe....