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[Jacques Nexus]

In all the reviews of TWINE it staggers me that apparently no one has noticed the Zukovsky character is significantly different to what he was in GE. In GE he was quite menacing and in TWINE he's nowhere near it (and more jovial). They are not the same characters. I like both incarnations but the more menacing one would have added an extra layer to TWINE, a film that is great anyway.

[White Persian]

There's some material in the GoldenEye novelisation that didn't make the final cut of the film that shows more of the underlying respect between Bond and Zukovsky - after all 007 deliberately avoided killing him in their previous encounter. And Zukovsky's assistance in TWINE isn't entirely for Bond's sake, being to save /avenge his nephew.

[Blue Eyes]

Well he almost became a President. Zuchovsky was money orientated. That aside, I doubt his enemies would have been stupid enough to cross him.

I can imagine Valentine is a bit like Tony Soprano. If you know the Soprano's you'd know what I mean.

[Jacques Nexus]

Dave (11 Jun, 2001 10:01 p.m.):
If you had no knowledge of Zukovsky previously beig a KGB agent, would you have guessed it. No !...

That's right Dave. I saw GE again the other day and Coltrane is completely diferent than what he is in TWINE. His sequence is the best scene in GE.

[Jacques Nexus]

Digitarius (11 Jun, 2001 01:12 p.m.):
Well, he has turned from Bond's enemy in GoldenEye to Bond's ally in The World Is Not Enough.  The transition in character can be partly due to his change in occupation, from Russian mafia boss to Azerbaijani casino owner.

Is there really any difference between the two occupations in the former Soviet Union ?...I think not (Zukovsky's words in GE)...let's face the fact...the scriptwriters and Coltrane got the character wrong in TWINE (though I still like both incarnations anyway).

[Blue Eyes]

Well after GE Zukovsky is no longer sore about Bond, they're now even. Hence, more of a relationship beteween then.

Plus he has also moved on into more fields of business. He wasn't a full gangster. He was a gangster with real business fronting his illegal activity. After all, who got Elektra the submarine in TWINE? Zukovsky did!

[Digitarius]

Zukovsky was still the same person in The World Is Not Enough, he just presented a different front.
In GE, he was the out-and-out gangster, and he acted ruthless, not caring what people think about him.
In TWINE, he has a legitimate business and thence cannot be the nastiest Russian in the land, thence a different portrayal. He was very funny, though, in both cases.

[Digitarius]

Well, he has turned from Bond's enemy in GoldenEye to Bond's ally in The World Is Not Enough. The transition in character can be partly due to his change in occupation, from Russian mafia boss to Azerbaijani casino owner.

[The Admiral]

If you had no knowledge of Zukovsky previously beig a KGB agent, would you have guessed it? No!

IN any fact, it's weird how he would want to own a casino. With all the enemies he's made, I'd have thought it to be a bit life threatening towards him.