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[Righty007]

Alot of review's and people dumped on Madonna's title song and appearence in DAD. I don't think the song was bad. It was unique and Madonna has always been one to stand out and do something different. I really like the music video for it. Also Madonna didn't ruin her scene as many people have said. Tell me your views on Madonna's overall performance in DAD.

[Double-0 Six]

I thought Madonna's cameo was terrible. It took me right out of the movie - she just can't act. Her delivery of the awful one-liners were either totally flat or wrongly emphasised.

I hate the song, too, but not totally. The lyrics (although there aren't many of them) are okay, the strings are really good, but the overall result is a mess and I just can't listen to it.

I'm not a Madonna fan at the best of times, so I am probably biased, but for me the whole involvement of Madonna was one big mistake.

[Doubleshot]

I agree with Double-O Six and, well, the rest of the general fan population. Madonna's title song and her cameo appearance in the film are truly terrible.

[Harmsway]

Madonna's title song is a mess. The same goes for her cameo, it's just that her cameo isn't quite as torturous as the title song.

[freemo]

The cameo wasn't bad,
The song wasn't good.

[Peter]

I liked them both. But I'm glad her cameo was short.

[TGO]

But then again, most of the general fan population hates Madonna with a passion. I thought it was good for what it was...a cameo. And how do you wrongly emphasise, "I don't like c*ck fights."?

[SirMiles83]

I actually liked her song, and I didn't really care about her cameo. I don't really like Madonna. I love GF's title song best of all, then Nobody Does it Better, then Live and Let Die. I don't know why I like DAD's title song, I can't really explain it. At first, I heard it and hated it, but now I like it.

[rafterman]

the song's ok, fine during the credits, but I wouldn't listen to it by itself, the cameo was ok, but each time I see it I like it less, cause it just seems so pointless, like hey I'm Madonna and I had to be in this movie too, but you can really see how pathetic her acting chops are in that scene...please no more pop star cameos....

[Trevelyan]

The cameo I didn't mind so much. If only they hadn't flaunted that bit about "I've come undone...>giggle snort!<." Bond and Madonna??? ...(...they say if you don't have anything nice to say...)...

The song grew on me after a while. The first time I heard it, it was a bootleg mp3 (I've deleted it by now, don't ask me for it), and it was much faster without so much techno, and much more strings. (yes, this did improve it on the current version about ten-fold). It would have been great background for a chase like in TLD. The song, by itself, gets really ...I dunno, annoying?... after a while. But, I liked it in the title sequence (I know I'm not supposed to, but I like the visuals better than the song (as if that's any redemption)).

Ahhhh, I just dunno. She was okay, I guess... Could the cameo have been better? Yeah, sure. Could the song have been better? Probably. Is the movie fine how it is? I, myself, have no complaints.

[M_Balje]

In the beginning i heard the song i don't like it,but now i like it.
But i don't will heard it to much.
The cameo of Madonna is a mess.
It's with Halle Barey one of the Overated girls.

Iam not a fan of Madonna to.
The onlymusic titel i realy like is that one with the black birds and here black dress.

[M_Balje]

Originally posted by rafterman
please no more pop star cameos....

As Elton John do the song for Bond 21,he can play in an Casino or Restaurant on the Piano a litle bit.
Mabey it da-da-dad-da.
That's an good idea or not ?

You can put your reaction about that in this thread.

http://forums.comman...=&threadid=8623

[Blofeld's Cat]

I have just 2 words to describe her song and cameo:

VERITY UNIMPRESSIVE !

[Mister Asterix]

I like the song, but hated the production of it. It’s way overproduced. I’d love to hear someone cover the song someday to get another take on it. But all-in-all the song work beautifully with the best title sequence since Thunderball. And that is what is most important.

The cameo stunk. Mostly because of them trying to cram homosexuality into a character who was really no more than someone to say, ‘That’s Graves. That’s Frost. They fence.’ But it was also ruined by terrible acting and those scary, scary arms. ::cringe::

[kevrichardson]

I have seen DAD 4 times . The title song work with in the concept of the films main titles . Madonna was on screen for 2.5 minutes. That's all . Of course some will write that 2 minutes too long . Then when you buy the DVD . Bypass the scene . It's moot.

[kevrichardson]

What happnes if she makes a comeback in Bond 21 . As bond self-defense instructor at MI6 . What then? Maybe EON will give her(Madonna) her own spin-off.

[Scottlee]

I think the DAD song is fine. It's not a traditional Bondian theme, but it very much suits a series entry where Bond has just been captured and is in the process of being tortured.

As for Madonna's cameo..... Well, I've never been a big fan of the girl herself. I think she's an egotistical prima nobody with a backlog of music that's far too overrated for words. She's a ******** actor too, by and large. That said, she gets away with the fencing thing because of how short it is. If we were burdened with her pressence for a good half hour, perhaps we'd have something credible to complain about. As it is I don't see the big deal, both with that and the whole phenomenom surrounding 'pop star cameos'. It's these little things that get bums on seats, and I don't see why we should deny Bond's makers the right to do this at such little expense to us the viewer. (Madonna's in DAD for 2 minutes! Oh no! Tragedy! That's the whole film ruined. No, really it is!)

[Simon]

I thought the song worked a treat with the titles - in fact I would go so far as to say these titles are the very best yet. Very new, very modern - a perfect ensemble.

The cameo, well, as someone said above, how can you wrongly inflect a couple of words? The script was there, it was all innuendo, it served a purpose. It came and went and I didn't really notice it. As far as small parts went, it was no better or worse than Mr Kil's contribution.

I firmly believe most of it is just dumping on Madonna because she is such a big target. Goldie's performance in TWINE was worse, he's a singer(?) but I hear very little about him.

[DLibrasnow]

I loved the song...I thought it was the best of the series. It provided the kick in the you-know-what to the Bond series.
I think they have overused that John Barryesque stuff to death in the 007 series. The Bond theme used to mean something and was special, but David Arnold uses it so liberally all over the place that its lost all that meaning and sparkle.

[superracer0022]

i thought the song was pretty good (brought me back to when bond songs would be technoish) and the cameo was not terrible but i didnt think it was great

[ChrisMarvel2002]

I didn't think the song was great. I liked her cameo however. Madonna
can be attractive at times. And In DAD that was one of her times. I
think she does have too much of a ego(If you watched the music video
you would think It was just a Madonna song Instead of a bond theme)

[gkgyver]

"If you watched the music video
you would think It was just a Madonna song Instead of a bond theme"

Although I really think that Madonna screwed her shot at 007, that's something I can't agree to. The video is really about Bond. It has the gunbarrel and there are many hints to previous Bond movies in the fight between "good" and "evil" Madonna (for me, there's only one evil Madonna ).

[Von Hammerstein]

Madonna has outlived her usefulness. And why she chose that disjointed strident clash of chords over a more traditional number for Bond's 40th I can't imagine. If you saw her performance in Dick Tracy or Evita you know two things. 1. She has the pipes to do the "show tunes" and 2. She can't act. That aside I felt her few minutes on screen was passable and not distracting from the scene. Her title song was an awful mess. It had good tune but the lyrics were as incomprehensible as those a-Ha did for TLD. Yes I like both tunes and occasionally hum them, but you can't sing the senseless lyrics. What was she aiming for the ramblings of someone whose mind has been unhinged by torutre? All-in-all not a proper subject for a Bond title song. Just my 2 cents.

[gkgyver]

In general, I think an "anniversary" Bond film should always be made in a more traditional way (in memory of the old days) instead of twist and turn the "formula" upside down. I wished Bond 21 had introduced a "modern" kind of 007 movie.

[Adam]

Madonna's cameo doesn't seem so bad in comparison to a lot of the rest of the movie. I just saw Die Another Day on Friday b/c my college was featuring it, and my feelings of disappointment were reinforced. That being said, Madonna's performance wasn't nearly as awful as everyone proclaims--everyone just complains because it's Madonna.

I like the song too, maybe because I like music with a heavy beat...I will grant that the lyrics aren't significantly profound and "Die Another Day" is repeated over and over again, but I still like the sound and I think it was good for the title sequence.

[JackChase007]

The strings, as someone previously mentioned, in the song are very good. That is all I like about it. I the song mostly because it IS Madonna.

Also, about the cameo, it was an awful bit of acting (a natural follow-up to her previous flop in the theatres). It's as if she wanted to bring Bond down with her, just because she made a really lousy movie.

What adds to my strong dislike of Madonna are the demands that she made for her very brief cameo. For one thing, she demanded that her dialogue be changed just because she didn't agree to being just another girl to Bond (I really don't think that her 'performance', if you could call it that, really gave off much of an impression). Wasn't there also some stink about her husband writing/directing that scene?

Typical Madonna.

[booyeah_]

I'm not a fan of Madonna but from a non-biased stand point---The song sucked. I thought it was terrible. At least the title effects w/ the scorpions were cool. The cameo was a bad idea. She should have been an extra at best.

[iceberg]

Originally posted by DLibrasnow
I loved the song...I thought it was the best of the series. It provided the kick in the you-know-what to the Bond series.  
I think they have overused that John Barryesque stuff to death in the 007 series.  The Bond theme used to mean something and was special, but David Arnold uses it so liberally all over the place that its lost all that meaning and sparkle.

I agree. The song was fine, and Madonna's performance is being vilified simply because most people can't get past the fact that she's Madonna.

Just my opinion, but I think she was competent and delivered. I'm no Madonna fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I do like the song, and I hate to see people bashed unreasonably. She may not be the best actress, and has certainly sucked in some of her flicks, but for this cameo, she was fine.

[JBond007]

Alot of people thought her cameo and title song was excellent too.
So there!

[JBond007]

What's bad about her acting? Was it convincing? I thought it was.