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[Glockenspiel]

Do you think Craig will have to say the infamous lines in SKYFALL?

[thecasinoroyale]

Well if Craig and Mendes were honest about sticking to traits that make a 'Bond film with a capital B', then I expect we will hear the line without a doubt. They can't leave it out for two films on the run, it IS James Bond after all!

Some good opportunities to do this during the film I reckon. We may even get a snippet of it in the full trailer, like they did back in the day?


Fingers crossed anyway!

[001carus]

I despise the notion that the filmmakers need to shove the line in there somewhere just to appease fans of the series. It always felt hamfisted in Brosnan films and Casino Royale's use was so perfect I doubt there would have been any legitimate way for Craig to have used it in QOS without it sounding incredibly lame. I really hope they don't throw it in there just because (in the same way they've opted not to include Felix because he didn't fit in the story of the film - and they weren't going to try to cram him in there).

Thinking about it, I reckon it'd be pretty funny if one of the word association questions is "Bond." DC responds with "... James Bond." Would be ridiculous but also a little cool.

[Dustin]

Thinking about it, I reckon it'd be pretty funny if one of the word association questions is "Bond." DC responds with "... James Bond." Would be ridiculous but also a little cool.

Now that's a nice idea...

Agree with the rest, I'd rather not have elements that feel contrived, forced.

[FOX MULDER]

I still think Connery's delivery of "Bond... James Bond" from the beginning of Dr No is the greatest of them all...

I think it should be in every Bond film. But then, I enjoy the things that make a Bond film a 'Bond' film... most people these days want 'realism' (which I happen to think is overrated).

[Miles Miservy]

Do you think Craig will have to say the infamous lines in SKYFALL?

I think it's a given, I just hope they do not SATURATE the film with that line like they did in AVTAK. Once is fine....... maybe twice but certainly no more than that.

[BoogieBond]

I think they might have it in. I think its forced if they shoe horn it in a supposedly "cool" moment. But he could just introduce himself as JB(if not BJB) in a social event or meeting, that would do, and its a pretty natural thing to do if the person hasn't been introduced (e.g. to the Bond girl, Bond Villain etc). They don't have to contrive the scene around it.

[thecasinoroyale]

Once will do me in the right context and not milked for what it's worth...like Brosnan did because he KNEW that was the selling line!

[Loomis]

Are there any films in which our hero does not say "Bond, James Bond"?

Serious question. I guess that after ten years on CBn I ought to know the answer, but I don't.

[Royal Dalton]

Thunderball, maybe?

[tdalton]

I don't recall it being said in either Licence to Kill or Quantum of Solace. Could be wrong, though, as I haven't made my way through either film in quite a while.


As for the necessity of the line appearing in SkyFall, I don't really care if it makes it in or not. If it can be done in a non-intrusive way in which it arises organically rather than being shoe-horned in, then fine. Otherwise, leave it out, so it doesn't become a fourth-wall breaking "announcement" like it often was during the Brosnan Era.

[JimmyBond]

Are there any films in which our hero does not say "Bond, James Bond"?

Serious question. I guess that after ten years on CBn I ought to know the answer, but I don't.

From Russia With Love, Thunderball, You Only Live Twice, and Quantum of Solace.

[univex]

Are there any films in which our hero does not say "Bond, James Bond"?

Serious question. I guess that after ten years on CBn I ought to know the answer, but I don't.

From Russia With Love, Thunderball, You Only Live Twice, and Quantum of Solace.

My two favourites BTW, FRWL and TB. But then again, they do have the best scripts/lines, even if they don´t have "the line".

Otherwise, leave it out, so it doesn't become a fourth-wall breaking "announcement" like it often was during the Brosnan Era.

Yes, it was always: STOP THE WORLD!!!: My name is...

And that time in TWiNE, when Pierce blows the gas tank in the silo, he says it so..."americanized": The name´s Bând, Xames Bând! It´s almost embarrassing.

No one else said it like Connery though, that "Bond...(lighter click)...James Bond" was fenomenal. "My friends call me James Bond" was also very natural. The line in CR was also very, very good. That deep delivery by a man who, albeith in revenge mode, was having his fun (cat playing with mouse before dinner), was wonderful. I wish Craig had more of those sadistic moments.

[Trevelyan 006]

Yes, it was always: STOP THE WORLD!!!: My name is...

That reminds me, I believe when Brosnan delivered the line in GoldenEye, the background music died down and started back up after...

However, whether it comes off in context as cheesy or not, I'm hoping for it's return in SKYFALL. Either way.

Edited by Trevelyan 006, 25 May 2012 - 03:43 AM.

[d21089]

im sure it will be in there- but ye lets not have brosnan style autocue reading, put my cool face on style

[PPK_19]

We'll definitely hear it.

[jaguar007]

I despise the notion that the filmmakers need to shove the line in there somewhere just to appease fans of the series. It always felt hamfisted in Brosnan films and Casino Royale's use was so perfect I doubt there would have been any legitimate way for Craig to have used it in QOS without it sounding incredibly lame. I really hope they don't throw it in there just because (in the same way they've opted not to include Felix because he didn't fit in the story of the film - and they weren't going to try to cram him in there).

Thinking about it, I reckon it'd be pretty funny if one of the word association questions is "Bond." DC responds with "... James Bond." Would be ridiculous but also a little cool.

Apparently they did shoot a scene in QoS where he says the line, and Forester cut it because he did not think it worked and felt a bit "hamfisted" as you say.

[S K Y F A L L]

Maybe it will be part of the word association game, "Please state your name for the record," Bond, James Bond.

[Leon]

I will buy a hat and eat it if that line is not in Skyfall. I must say I am very amused at the notion that the line would ever need to be 'shoe horned' into the film. That is just how Bond usually introduces himself, it's not exactly going to be that during the entire length of the film Bond doesn't ever meet someone new who he has to introduce himself to. Generally more natural if someone leads with the question, 'Mister..?'. It's a perfectly common thing to happen, and frankly it would feel more forced to me if it was worked in with some 'clever', self-conscious gag or left out all together.

Enough with making big deals out of these things, - the gunbarrel, the martini, the introduction, the Bond theme, the past references - this is his third film now and a 50th anniversary too, just have all that stuff classically, naturally and well written/delivered with the Craig edge. Make the big deal about the story and characters, and pay hommage to the past greats in the way the film is made, not the trinkets thrown into it.

There will be enough nodding, winking and cleverness, I'm sure, with both the introduction of Q and with the Bond family heritage stuff for the whole film - all the rest just needs to be done classic, slick and cool.

[Glockenspiel]

I don't recall it being said in either Licence to Kill or Quantum of Solace. Could be wrong, though, as I haven't made my way through either film in quite a while.


As for the necessity of the line appearing in SkyFall, I don't really care if it makes it in or not. If it can be done in a non-intrusive way in which it arises organically rather than being shoe-horned in, then fine. Otherwise, leave it out, so it doesn't become a fourth-wall breaking "announcement" like it often was during the Brosnan Era.

He says the line in LICENCE TO KILL.

[Miles Miservy]

Are there any films in which our hero does not say "Bond, James Bond"?

Serious question. I guess that after ten years on CBn I ought to know the answer, but I don't.

I want to say FRWL. As it follows Dr. No almost frame-by-frame (Bond's arrival to Jamaica / Istanbul;Bond is tailed and it's unknown whether it's a friend or foe, etc.) It stands to reason that he'd introduce himself to the female character in the same way he'd been introduced. Therefore, when he 1st meets Sylvia Trench The exchange is:

Bond: "I admire your courage, Miss..."
Sylvia: "Trench, Sylvia Trench. I admire your luck, Mr..."
........ you get the idea.

In FRWL it's slightly different:

Tatiana: "My friends call me Tanya."
Bond: "My friends call me James Bond'"

Now I got to go back again & look for it.

[Miles Miservy]

Well if Craig and Mendes were honest about sticking to traits that make a 'Bond film with a capital B', then I expect we will hear the line without a doubt. They can't leave it out for two films on the run, it IS James Bond after all!

Some good opportunities to do this during the film I reckon. We may even get a snippet of it in the full trailer, like they did back in the day?


Fingers crossed anyway!

It's not like that HAVE to follow the "FORMULA". I mean, I can count at least TWO movies inwhich OO7 is without a tuxedo.

[MajorB]

Are there any films in which our hero does not say "Bond, James Bond"?

Serious question. I guess that after ten years on CBn I ought to know the answer, but I don't.

I want to say FRWL. As it follows Dr. No almost frame-by-frame (Bond's arrival to Jamaica / Istanbul;Bond is tailed and it's unknown whether it's a friend or foe, etc.) It stands to reason that he'd introduce himself to the female character in the same way he'd been introduced. Therefore, when he 1st meets Sylvia Trench The exchange is:

Bond: "I admire your courage, Miss..."
Sylvia: "Trench, Sylvia Trench. I admire your luck, Mr..."
........ you get the idea.

In FRWL it's slightly different:

Tatiana: "My friends call me Tanya."
Bond: "My friends call me James Bond'"

Now I got to go back again & look for it.

JimmyBond answered it:

From Russia With Love, Thunderball, You Only Live Twice, and Quantum of Solace.

And given that they're bringing back the Aston-Martin, Q or a Q-type character, and so on, I'll be flabbergasted if it's not used in Skyfall.

[Bryce (003)]

It'll be there somewhere. I did like it not being done fully in TB with Largo at the casino where he just says "Bond."

In my own 003 fan-fic somewhere, I gave it with a twist.

"This is mister Bryce."

"Bryce?"

"Yes."

"With a 'Y'?"

"Why not?"

*insert groans HERE *



Lately, with all the wild gossip about Bond having a brew and such, I've been heckled and asked by many about what will be there. I don't bloody know and I've explained that Eon didn't go asking Heineken if they could have 007 order and/or drink one. Heineken said "Hey, we'll pay you 45 MILLION bucks to put it in there". That's nearly 25% of the budget. No-brainer. Bond will still have a martini at some point, Q will be reintroduced, we'll get a new Moneypenny and a new M and inevitably he will wear a tux and say "Bond...James Bond." when the moments right and not as a tag at the end - which, BTW, was perfect for CR IMO - so just relax and enjoy what looks to be an epic Bond film experience.

[Anticitizen]

Franks... Peter Franks.

Anyway, that line isn't really important. It only even makes sense in a certain context. In the classic Connery scene, a woman was inquiring his name by referring him to 'mister....?' (waiting for him to supply his name). He finished her 'Mister' question with his surname, then repeated it with his given name. I have to admit, it was also pretty cool because he was lighting a cigarette at the moment.

Later incarnations of 'the line' struck me as pretty lame. Bond would say, 'My name's Bond, James Bond'. NOBODY introduces themselves that way (surname first, given name and repeated surname). The only reason scenes in later movies had Bond giving his name SURNAME-GIVEN-SURNAME style is because they're trying to recapture the magic from that first scene, and the ONLY reason he said it that way was because of the 'Mister...?' prompting.

That said, I have to sign for packages from UPS and FedEx all the time for work. When I sign for the packages, I sign my last name, usually pretty illegibly. The delivery man then asks for my name (wanting to know what I wrote). I sometimes do the SURNAME-GIVEN-SURNAME response, just because I'm a goofball. I should keep a cigarette handy that I can light halfway through the process.

Edited by Anticitizen, 26 May 2012 - 08:17 AM.

[Dustin]

Franks... Peter Franks.

Anyway, that line isn't really important. It only even makes sense in a certain context. In the classic Connery scene, a woman was inquiring his name by referring him to 'mister....?' (waiting for him to supply his name). He finished her 'Mister' question with his surname, then repeated it with his given name. I have to admit, it was also pretty cool because he was lighting a cigarette at the moment.

Later incarnations of 'the line' struck me as pretty lame. Bond would say, 'My name's Bond, James Bond'. NOBODY introduces themselves that way (surname first, given name and repeated surname). The only reason scenes in later movies had Bond giving his name SURNAME-GIVEN-SURNAME style is because they're trying to recapture the magic from that first scene, and the ONLY reason he said it that way was because of the 'Mister...?' prompting.

That said, I have to sign for packages from UPS and FedEx all the time for work. When I sign for the packages, I sign my last name, usually pretty illegibly. The delivery man then asks for my name (wanting to know what I wrote). I sometimes do the SURNAME-GIVEN-SURNAME response, just because I'm a goofball. I should keep a cigarette handy that I can light halfway through the process.

There is actually one other - quite logic - reason to introduce oneself in this manner; and it's still done quite often, I assure you. If your surname happens to be fairly common - as 'Bond' is - chances are you've already run into a number of 'Bonds'. Adding the given name here distinguishes from all those others; particularly handy whenever a passenger manifest or schedule of names is involved.

Also it's a way to establish a certain atmosphere, the one addressed can decide if this is going to be on first-name terms or not, without being rude or overly intimate. First the surname for distance, then the given for friendliness, an offered sign of peace that can but needn't be accepted.

[Anticitizen]

Perhaps there are reasons to justify it... but I have NEVER heard anyone do it.

[Dustin]

Perhaps there are reasons to justify it... but I have NEVER heard anyone do it.

Oh, I think it will become extinct with time. With all and sundry on first-name terms now it's already an odd thing, as you can attest to. But you really used to hear it not exactly seldom back then, and not just from Bond fans, either.

[00 Brosnan]

I'd be surprised if the line wasn't in SkyFall.

I still think Connery's delivery of "Bond... James Bond" from the beginning of Dr No is the greatest of them all...

I agree, the delivery is just so cool...