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[Gt Munn]

Some of these replies are pretty funny, they can't be serious. Bruce Lee couldn't fight? You have to be kidding right, try doing a bit of reading! http://en.wikipedia....e#Fight_history

I KNOW! I mean, 'one-inch punch', anybody...?

Hear ye, hear ye! I won't speak on matches, but doubting the fighting ability of Lee is pretty foolish. I have both huge respect for both he and McQueen.

In regards to the awesomeness of Connery, I'd think back to his meeting with Johnny Stompanato.

Edited by Gt Munn, 22 May 2012 - 02:49 AM.

[Pussfeller]

Arguments about Bruce Lee and Steve McQueen... This has suddenly turned into my old daycare center. Anyone for paper football?

[Robinson]

Arguments about Bruce Lee and Steve McQueen... This has suddenly turned into my old daycare center. Anyone for paper football?

"Tag! You're it!!!"

I remember Craig stating that for QOS he didn't hit the weights as much as he did for CR. He concentrated on boxing (which will whip you into shape). He's lost size but one would think he's still "solid."

It would be interesting to find out what his pre-production workout regimen is and how he exercises during the production process.

[Pussfeller]

Back in 2006, Craig's burliness was a breath of fresh air. It felt authentic and youthful. But people change over time. For mature guys, I prefer a lean, compact physique. And it makes sense for a spy to cultivate a slim, practical, inconspicuous build.

[Peckinpah1976]

It's also worth noting that (by his own high standards at least) he was deliberately out of shape for Dragon Tattoo.

[L4YRCAKE]

It's also worth noting that (by his own high standards at least) he was deliberately out of shape for Dragon Tattoo.

In a few of the novels Bond would start out getting chided by M for being out of shape, particularly in Thunderball. When I saw him with a beard for some of Skyfall I wondered if it was an indication that he'd let himself go, and goes through a physical transformation during the film to get back in form. There does seem to be a focus on him exercising and practicing his marksmanship in the trailer, and like you say he was out of shape (for him, I'd take that body any day! ) in the previous Dragon Tattoo. Who knows...?

[smudge76]

You know what who cares about Bruce Lee or Steve McQueen they have nothing to do with the Bond films so why they ever got brought up is pointless. As for the clips of Bond training well he is a ex sf guy still working in paramilitary world so the training comes hand in hand. Daniel Craig is in great physical shape again as normal for the 007 films. As for the poster who loves Bruce Lee and Steve McQueen perhaps you should just watch there movies and try not to compare in slightest to 007. Of course Bruce Lee was good at martial arts but to say ' he beat up your dad ' no he beat up yours type of stuff is rubbish and boring. Just be happy 007 is back

[S K Y F A L L]

Now and days every actor has a built body its as important as acting it seems. Sex sells, see Berenice.
I just hate hearing about it in interviews when people ask the actors about working out.
Come on now if I was getting paid millions of dollars to act in films, I could afford to take the time into turning my body into a beautiful temple.

[smudge76]

Now and days every actor has a built body its as important as acting it seems. Sex sells, see Berenice.
I just hate hearing about it in interviews when people ask the actors about working out.
Come on now if I was getting paid millions of dollars to act in films, I could afford to take the time into turning my body into a beautiful temple.

Now and days every actor has a built body its as important as acting it seems. Sex sells, see Berenice.
I just hate hearing about it in interviews when people ask the actors about working out.
Come on now if I was getting paid millions of dollars to act in films, I could afford to take the time into turning my body into a beautiful temple.

Spot on there every actor nearly works out and they can afford the amount of time to do it. Plus they pay for the best Personal Trainers i know DC has Simon Waterson as his ,a former RN commando, for the 007 films and he is one the top ones in the uk. So every actor today can be in tip top shape for there films as people demand it for certain roles. Look at the latest superhero film Avengers, how would people react to a skinny Captain America and Thor ?? so they get the top guys/girls in to train them and get them fit.

[S K Y F A L L]

Now and days every actor has a built body its as important as acting it seems. Sex sells, see Berenice.
I just hate hearing about it in interviews when people ask the actors about working out.
Come on now if I was getting paid millions of dollars to act in films, I could afford to take the time into turning my body into a beautiful temple.

Now and days every actor has a built body its as important as acting it seems. Sex sells, see Berenice.
I just hate hearing about it in interviews when people ask the actors about working out.
Come on now if I was getting paid millions of dollars to act in films, I could afford to take the time into turning my body into a beautiful temple.

Spot on there every actor nearly works out and they can afford the amount of time to do it. Plus they pay for the best Personal Trainers i know DC has Simon Waterson as his ,a former RN commando, for the 007 films and he is one the top ones in the uk. So every actor today can be in tip top shape for there films as people demand it for certain roles. Look at the latest superhero film Avengers, how would people react to a skinny Captain America and Thor ?? so they get the top guys/girls in to train them and get them fit.

Your doubling up on your quotes, it happened to me to cause I was using Google Chrome if you have any problems with the site try using Internet Explore, if you haven't already.

[The Shark]

Firefox > all other browses.

[smudge76]

I am a computer mong, cheers i just thought it was the norm ha ha

[Leon]

I've always thought he was a little bit too bulky in CR. Great film, and not a big deal, but I definitely think it's a good thing he's toned it down a notch. I never got the impression that Bond in the books was particularly bulky, and even Connery wasn't by then, despite his body building background:

[Germanlady]

Thank you, I never get the hype about Connerys body. Its not all that much IMO. He is broad, but not very muscular.

[Dustin]

Thank you, I never get the hype about Connerys body. Its not all that much IMO. He is broad, but not very muscular.

But that was already considered an athletic built in the 60s. More muscle was reserved strictly for top athletes or bodybuilders and was frowned upon if the respective person belonged to neither. Take a look at the novel FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE; here Red Grant is described as a character with an exceptional, demi-god-like physique, a classical statuesque study in muscle and purpose. Bond immediately notes the evident power Grant commands and remarks on it. It was an unusual, conspicuous sign for somebody in the 1950s, and it also alluded to either too much time on one's hands (same as the suntan in winter M so heartily disapproves of) or too much involvement with circles who were suspicious of homosexual tendencies. At any rate it made a man stand out and was indeed the first warning sign Bond noted but discarded.

Craig's built today, while certainly not an everday common sight, doesn't cause any suspicions beyond the obvious - that this is a man who takes considerate pains to be physically up for the short havoc of action that comes with his calling. But he's not that far from the sports junkies you see every day running and cycling and swimming and bouldering and whatnot. Most of the civilised Western countries have reached a high level of productivity and thus sparetime. And a large part of the population refuses to just batten themselves to death in front of the telly. Instead they chose sparetime activities involving all kinds of sports, and this just shows. Craig's above average, but still within the limits we'd expect from the more active parts of our society.

[The Shark]

Thank you, I never get the hype about Connerys body. Its not all that much IMO. He is broad, but not very muscular.

On the hand Craig is small framed, but ripped. He looked more imposing and Connery-like in CASINO ROYALE.

[SecretAgentFan]

Personally, the 60´s look was way more natural than today´s pumped up steroid-style where everybody has to look as if they are spending at least four hours a day in a fitness studio, with a personal trainer and chef.

When does Bond find the time for that?

[Dustin]

Personally, the 60´s look was way more natural than today´s pumped up steroid-style where everybody has to look as if they are spending at least four hours a day in a fitness studio, with a personal trainer and chef.

When does Bond find the time for that?

Actually - what else has he got to do? When there's no killing to be done he has to keep in shape and his gun in practice. And that's it really. No use having the guy snoop around HQ and picking up all kinds of secrets when there's a high likelihood he'll end up on a chair minus seat or in front of a buzz saw. Whatever internals stuff the guy knows, if it's more than the menue of the canteen it's wasted. Let him fight the whole day, that's his calling anyway...

[x007AceOfSpades]

I'll just leave this here

http://www.strangeco...tent/160550.jpg

[crheath]

I don't quite agree that he looks smaller. In the sillouette image and the scene where he gets up and walks out of the interregation, he looks a bit bulkier to me. It might be because of the outfit he's in. As for the rest of the trailer I can't quite tell since each shot is so quick.

[SecretAgentFan]

Personally, the 60´s look was way more natural than today´s pumped up steroid-style where everybody has to look as if they are spending at least four hours a day in a fitness studio, with a personal trainer and chef.

When does Bond find the time for that?

Actually - what else has he got to do? When there's no killing to be done he has to keep in shape and his gun in practice. And that's it really. No use having the guy snoop around HQ and picking up all kinds of secrets when there's a high likelihood he'll end up on a chair minus seat or in front of a buzz saw. Whatever internals stuff the guy knows, if it's more than the menue of the canteen it's wasted. Let him fight the whole day, that's his calling anyway...

Maybe the 00-section has a special personal trainer to bulk them up and a personal chef to cook for them. Can´t imagine them all going to the gym and buy groceries for themselves ("Um, excuse me, is this milk organic and non-fat? Otherwise it ruins my six-pack."- "Ooh, dear, a six-pack would be fantastic right now - but I have to choose a fruit cocktail instead..." - "Sigh... I hope I will be sent on a mission where I can indulge myself again with exotic food, women and wodka-martinis...")

[Germanlady]

I agree, he might have been a nice built for the 60's, but folks are still referring to him today as being so overpowering in comparison to todays actors or DC and that is, what I don't get.

[FOX MULDER]

He had skills alright, but in his weight class. He'd lose a fight with Muhammad Ali or Jason Statham.

Sorry, but there is no chance Jason Statham would beat Bruce Lee in any kind of fight.

That's absolutely ridiculous.

[Dustin]

Personally, the 60´s look was way more natural than today´s pumped up steroid-style where everybody has to look as if they are spending at least four hours a day in a fitness studio, with a personal trainer and chef.

When does Bond find the time for that?

Actually - what else has he got to do? When there's no killing to be done he has to keep in shape and his gun in practice. And that's it really. No use having the guy snoop around HQ and picking up all kinds of secrets when there's a high likelihood he'll end up on a chair minus seat or in front of a buzz saw. Whatever internals stuff the guy knows, if it's more than the menue of the canteen it's wasted. Let him fight the whole day, that's his calling anyway...

Maybe the 00-section has a special personal trainer to bulk them up and a personal chef to cook for them. Can´t imagine them all going to the gym and buy groceries for themselves ("Um, excuse me, is this milk organic and non-fat? Otherwise it ruins my six-pack."- "Ooh, dear, a six-pack would be fantastic right now - but I have to choose a fruit cocktail instead..." - "Sigh... I hope I will be sent on a mission where I can indulge myself again with exotic food, women and wodka-martinis...")

I liked leCarré's approach there. The scalphunters had their own building in Brixton IIRC. And their main pastime was apparently table tennis, close quarters combat and tea at the canteen. Don't see why they shouldn't have a cook and organic food wouldn't be necessary; a simple healthy diet without the franchise dreck does the trick just as good. OK, scalphunters used to be a dozen or so. Would not make much sense to go to all the trouble for a mere three guys.

[x007AceOfSpades]

He had skills alright, but in his weight class. He'd lose a fight with Muhammad Ali or Jason Statham.

Sorry, but there is no chance Jason Statham would beat Bruce Lee in any kind of fight.

That's absolutely ridiculous.

I like both, Bruce Lee paved the way for most modern fighting style and even MMA.

However, because of the Statham fanboy in me, I'd have to say that the two beat each other badly and laugh it off over a pint and some ice packs.

[FOX MULDER]

Bruce Lee was, amongst other things, a real fighter. He had dozens of streetfights before he was famous, many with guys a lot bigger than him. Even after he got famous he was still having to put down challenges, like this one:

Bob Wall, USPK karate champion and Lee's co-star in Enter the Dragon, recalled one encounter that transpired after a film extra kept taunting Lee. The extra yelled that Lee was "a movie star, not a martial artist," that he "wasn't much of a fighter". Lee answered his taunts by asking him to jump down from the wall he was sitting on. Wall described Lee's opponent as "a gang-banger type of guy from Hong Kong," a "damned good martial artist," and observed that he was fast, strong, and bigger than Bruce.

This kid was good. He was strong and fast, and he was really trying to punch Bruce's brains in. But Bruce just methodically took him apart. Bruce kept moving so well, this kid couldn't touch him...then all of a sudden, Bruce got him and rammed his with the wall and swept him up, proceeding to drop him and plant his knee into his opponent's chest, locked his arm out straight, and nailed him in the face repeatedly". – Bob Wall

Statham never had a fight in his life, as far as I know.
It would last 10 seconds or less.

[x007AceOfSpades]

I don't even think Statham would want to fight him period. Being that he is a fan of Lee. Still going to call it a draw.

[L4YRCAKE]

Thank you, I never get the hype about Connerys body. Its not all that much IMO. He is broad, but not very muscular.

But that was already considered an athletic built in the 60s. More muscle was reserved strictly for top athletes or bodybuilders and was frowned upon if the respective person belonged to neither. Take a look at the novel FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE; here Red Grant is described as a character with an exceptional, demi-god-like physique, a classical statuesque study in muscle and purpose. Bond immediately notes the evident power Grant commands and remarks on it. It was an unusual, conspicuous sign for somebody in the 1950s, and it also alluded to either too much time on one's hands (same as the suntan in winter M so heartily disapproves of) or too much involvement with circles who were suspicious of homosexual tendencies. At any rate it made a man stand out and was indeed the first warning sign Bond noted but discarded.

Craig's built today, while certainly not an everday common sight, doesn't cause any suspicions beyond the obvious - that this is a man who takes considerate pains to be physically up for the short havoc of action that comes with his calling. But he's not that far from the sports junkies you see every day running and cycling and swimming and bouldering and whatnot. Most of the civilised Western countries have reached a high level of productivity and thus sparetime. And a large part of the population refuses to just batten themselves to death in front of the telly. Instead they chose sparetime activities involving all kinds of sports, and this just shows. Craig's above average, but still within the limits we'd expect from the more active parts of our society.

Today there's more attention to less body fat, that's a lot of what 'looking cut' really is. If Sean Connery had .2% body fat like Daniel Craig they'd probably look more similar than expected. I do think Connery's Bond came across in the movies as a bit lazy though. And Craig's Bond looks like a tiger in constant repose, which seems more like the literary version.

I don't even think Statham would want to fight him period. Being that he is a fan of Lee. Still going to call it a draw.

If Statham was smart at all he'd know not to cross Bruce Lee, hypothetically. I couldn't imagine it being a draw, but to each their own.

Supposedly Statham's next project is 'Parker', which are based on great novels. This will be a chance to show whether he has respect for or even understands the source material or if he's just another guy out to make a buck. Who they choose as director will be a good indication.

[x007AceOfSpades]

If Statham was smart at all he'd know not to cross Bruce Lee, hypothetically. I couldn't imagine it being a draw, but to each their own.

Supposedly Statham's next project is 'Parker', which are based on great novels. This will be a chance to show whether he has respect for or even understands the source material or if he's just another guy out to make a buck. Who they choose as director will be a good indication.

Right, I heard about that being directed by Taylor Hackford. It was already shot actually as IMDb listed it in Post-Production. I believe the Mel Gibson film Payback was loosely adapted from the Parker novels right?

[univex]

If Statham was smart at all he'd know not to cross Bruce Lee, hypothetically. I couldn't imagine it being a draw, but to each their own.

Supposedly Statham's next project is 'Parker', which are based on great novels. This will be a chance to show whether he has respect for or even understands the source material or if he's just another guy out to make a buck. Who they choose as director will be a good indication.

Right, I heard about that being directed by Taylor Hackford. It was already shot actually as IMDb listed it in Post-Production. I believe the Mel Gibson film Payback was loosely adapted from the Parker novels right?

Oh, that Parker. Nice.