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#1 Jericho_One

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 07:27 PM

I don't know if this has been asked earlier, but is it just my impression or DC looks somewhat "smaller" on Skyfall's publicity photos and on the teaser trailer?
Could it be part of the character's transition from the "ex-military" body type to the more traditional Bond image (if one can theorize such an image) - meaning fit but not overtly muscular?
Opinions are appreciated. :-)

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 07:43 PM

It's not an extreme difference, but I've noticed it somewhat as well. Could have something to do with the film, or not.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 07:47 PM

He's cut, but not bulky like he was in Casino Royale. I think he's the same size as he was in Quantum, though perhaps a bit more toned.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:00 PM

I would say he is same size as in QoS defiantly more toned. When people say military body type (CR build) you have to remember Bond is ex British military his body type in Skyfall and QoS is actually more in line with a member of british armed forces than CR. Do not get me wrong you do get some big lads but on average a very fit lad in RM would be same build as Graig in QoS and Skyfall. In other nations forces i have seen an average look which is very big build but not British Army.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:02 PM

The only real look at his physique is here. Looking at that, he is still muscular.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:11 PM

I think what the orginal poster was trying to say was if Craig be built like he was in Cr which was bulky. In QoS and by looks of Skyfall he is in well built athletic shape. Firstly so he is able to deal with the running etc as he said been so big in CR he could not shake the injuries easily. I think for some reason people seem to think that Craig size in CR is typical of british forces and for anyone that has served in them that is wrong. Craig wanted a certain look in CR different from the rest and it worked but he concentrated more on running, boxing etc for QoS and judging by the fight trainers on this one i say he did same again. he looks every bit the ex UKSF soldier

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:16 PM

He lost a lot of weight for Cowboys and Aliens-- its harder to gain lean mass especially in a short amount of time. I thought he looked bigger than he did in QOS. Also he's 44

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:23 PM

There's a difference between being 'cut' and being 'huge'. Real action stars like Bruce Lee and Steve McQueen would have eaten walking action figures like Sylvester Stallone and Jason Statham for lunch. I think Daniel Craig belongs in the former company.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:26 PM

Think the differences - what differences there are - may be more due to a little roomier cloths than in previous films. Craig's physique is still more for use than for posing. Actors have to be more flexible in that regard these days and often 'little helpers' are mentioned, but the truth of the matter is they can only go so far and don't result in a satisfying, balanced look when used. The likes of Stallone and A'nuld are an example, not an encouraging one. Craig just has to generally stay in shape, and from the looks of it he does. The man does serious work that's not meant just for posing. Differences like a particularly defined shape are probably due to a slight dehydration prior to shoorting certain scenes. But in general Craig is by and far the fittest and physically most capable of the lot.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:37 PM

Within the narrative, it would be wrong for Craig to be huge. Hugeness would be impractical and conspicuous for a man like Bond. Toughness and leanness is more appropriate, and Craig is gradually proceeding in that direction.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:52 PM

Looks somewhere between his QOS and CR builds.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:56 PM

There's a difference between being 'cut' and being 'huge'. Real action stars like Bruce Lee and Steve McQueen would have eaten walking action figures like Sylvester Stallone and Jason Statham for lunch. I think Daniel Craig belongs in the former company.


Steve McQueen could never take the Stath. He's a genuine ex-athlete.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:57 PM


There's a difference between being 'cut' and being 'huge'. Real action stars like Bruce Lee and Steve McQueen would have eaten walking action figures like Sylvester Stallone and Jason Statham for lunch. I think Daniel Craig belongs in the former company.


Steve McQueen could never take the Stath.


Without movie magic, nor could Bruce Lee.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 09:24 PM



There's a difference between being 'cut' and being 'huge'. Real action stars like Bruce Lee and Steve McQueen would have eaten walking action figures like Sylvester Stallone and Jason Statham for lunch. I think Daniel Craig belongs in the former company.


Steve McQueen could never take the Stath.


Without movie magic, nor could Bruce Lee.


Mate, you are VERY wrong about Mr. Lee.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 09:53 PM




There's a difference between being 'cut' and being 'huge'. Real action stars like Bruce Lee and Steve McQueen would have eaten walking action figures like Sylvester Stallone and Jason Statham for lunch. I think Daniel Craig belongs in the former company.


Steve McQueen could never take the Stath.


Without movie magic, nor could Bruce Lee.


Mate, you are VERY wrong about Mr. Lee.


Yeah. You guys have no idea what you're talking about. Your average longshoreman could take Jason Statham. Bruce Lee would have had him crying into his cheerios by the second take. The only reason McQueen had a stuntman was because the studio forced him. And I'm sure Lee and McQueen both would have a great deal of respect and admiration for what Daniel Craig has brought to Bond, were they alive.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 10:05 PM

Without movie magic, nor could Bruce Lee.



Mmm. Wouldn't go that far; Bruce had the skills.

Yeah. You guys have no idea what you're talking about. Your average longshoreman could take Jason Statham. Bruce Lee would have had him crying into his cheerios by the second take. The only reason McQueen had a stuntman was because the studio forced him. And I'm sure Lee and McQueen both would have a great deal of respect and admiration for what Daniel Craig has brought to Bond, were they alive.


Seems odd to praise Craig for his physicality and deny that Statham does the same..?
I'm still a bit baffled as to why you think McQueen was in any way dangerous? I'm sure he could out-drive him, but Statham routinely displays athletic kickboxing fighting skills, and was a World Championships-competing diver. Obviously he's not a real kickboxer, but some of it rubs off. Have you seen any of his films?

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 10:21 PM


Without movie magic, nor could Bruce Lee.



Mmm. Wouldn't go that far; Bruce had the skills.

Yeah. You guys have no idea what you're talking about. Your average longshoreman could take Jason Statham. Bruce Lee would have had him crying into his cheerios by the second take. The only reason McQueen had a stuntman was because the studio forced him. And I'm sure Lee and McQueen both would have a great deal of respect and admiration for what Daniel Craig has brought to Bond, were they alive.


Seems odd to praise Craig for his physicality and deny that Statham does the same..?
I'm still a bit baffled as to why you think McQueen was in any way dangerous? I'm sure he could out-drive him, but Statham routinely displays athletic kickboxing fighting skills, and was a World Championships-competing diver. Obviously he's not a real kickboxer, but some of it rubs off. Have you seen any of his films?


I've seen him in the Guy Ritchie movies, he didn't stand out but maybe I'm being too hard on him. But I think Daniel Craig brings a depths to his anger that your average action hero can't do, and he takes risks with his physicality, and I think he took McQueen's Thomas Crowne Affair as a touching off point for how to portray Bond.

McQueen kicked a guy's face in while balancing on a fence and let a bunch of cattle trample over him in 'Nevada Smith'. I think today's action stars are too busy posing with their teeth gritted and worrying about their modeling careers to think of even doing that kind of stuff today, even with 'movie magic'.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 10:24 PM

He does look small built wise, but he appears to be very lean and cut, but still muscular. Either way he can still beat the hell out of you haha.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 10:30 PM

I've seen him in the Guy Ritchie movies, he didn't stand out but maybe I'm being too hard on him.



Uh-huh. Then to use one of your favourite phrases: 'you don't know what you're talking about'.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 10:34 PM

Does it matter whether Jason Statham could 'take' Daniel Craig? I feel 8 years old again.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 10:40 PM

Yeah, I visit a James Bond 007 forum because it's a really grown-up thing to do.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 10:42 PM

Yeah, I visit a James Bond 007 forum because it's a really grown-up thing to do.

Touché...

You certainly have a point though, old chap. Now, I think Connery in his prime could 'take' them both...

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 11:05 PM



Without movie magic, nor could Bruce Lee.



Mmm. Wouldn't go that far; Bruce had the skills.

Yeah. You guys have no idea what you're talking about. Your average longshoreman could take Jason Statham. Bruce Lee would have had him crying into his cheerios by the second take. The only reason McQueen had a stuntman was because the studio forced him. And I'm sure Lee and McQueen both would have a great deal of respect and admiration for what Daniel Craig has brought to Bond, were they alive.


Seems odd to praise Craig for his physicality and deny that Statham does the same..?
I'm still a bit baffled as to why you think McQueen was in any way dangerous? I'm sure he could out-drive him, but Statham routinely displays athletic kickboxing fighting skills, and was a World Championships-competing diver. Obviously he's not a real kickboxer, but some of it rubs off. Have you seen any of his films?


I've seen him in the Guy Ritchie movies, he didn't stand out but maybe I'm being too hard on him. But I think Daniel Craig brings a depths to his anger that your average action hero can't do, and he takes risks with his physicality, and I think he took McQueen's Thomas Crowne Affair as a touching off point for how to portray Bond.

McQueen kicked a guy's face in while balancing on a fence and let a bunch of cattle trample over him in 'Nevada Smith'. I think today's action stars are too busy posing with their teeth gritted and worrying about their modeling careers to think of even doing that kind of stuff today, even with 'movie magic'.



Without movie magic, nor could Bruce Lee.



Mmm. Wouldn't go that far; Bruce had the skills.

Yeah. You guys have no idea what you're talking about. Your average longshoreman could take Jason Statham. Bruce Lee would have had him crying into his cheerios by the second take. The only reason McQueen had a stuntman was because the studio forced him. And I'm sure Lee and McQueen both would have a great deal of respect and admiration for what Daniel Craig has brought to Bond, were they alive.


Seems odd to praise Craig for his physicality and deny that Statham does the same..?
I'm still a bit baffled as to why you think McQueen was in any way dangerous? I'm sure he could out-drive him, but Statham routinely displays athletic kickboxing fighting skills, and was a World Championships-competing diver. Obviously he's not a real kickboxer, but some of it rubs off. Have you seen any of his films?


I've seen him in the Guy Ritchie movies, he didn't stand out but maybe I'm being too hard on him. But I think Daniel Craig brings a depths to his anger that your average action hero can't do, and he takes risks with his physicality, and I think he took McQueen's Thomas Crowne Affair as a touching off point for how to portray Bond.

McQueen kicked a guy's face in while balancing on a fence and let a bunch of cattle trample over him in 'Nevada Smith'. I think today's action stars are too busy posing with their teeth gritted and worrying about their modeling careers to think of even doing that kind of stuff today, even with 'movie magic'.


What the hell are you on about, Jason Statham was a national diver for GB so your comment makes no sense, and i don't think DC thought 'i play 007 like steve mcqueen' if you can produce article or better still interview ere he said that then ok but if not stop making up rubbish. Plus your comment on Bruce Lee yeah he may have made some good martial art movies but its all stuff for camera and that scene in Dragon where he had to fight to death it never happened.lets see Mr Lee in the Cage with 3 Paras Jack Marshman or maybe in boxing ring with ex 2 Paras Mike Orme. This is simple Daniel Craig is once again in top tip shape to portray the role of a former ex UKSF bloke, Jason statham is always in top shape.



Without movie magic, nor could Bruce Lee.



Mmm. Wouldn't go that far; Bruce had the skills.

Yeah. You guys have no idea what you're talking about. Your average longshoreman could take Jason Statham. Bruce Lee would have had him crying into his cheerios by the second take. The only reason McQueen had a stuntman was because the studio forced him. And I'm sure Lee and McQueen both would have a great deal of respect and admiration for what Daniel Craig has brought to Bond, were they alive.


Seems odd to praise Craig for his physicality and deny that Statham does the same..?
I'm still a bit baffled as to why you think McQueen was in any way dangerous? I'm sure he could out-drive him, but Statham routinely displays athletic kickboxing fighting skills, and was a World Championships-competing diver. Obviously he's not a real kickboxer, but some of it rubs off. Have you seen any of his films?


I've seen him in the Guy Ritchie movies, he didn't stand out but maybe I'm being too hard on him. But I think Daniel Craig brings a depths to his anger that your average action hero can't do, and he takes risks with his physicality, and I think he took McQueen's Thomas Crowne Affair as a touching off point for how to portray Bond.

McQueen kicked a guy's face in while balancing on a fence and let a bunch of cattle trample over him in 'Nevada Smith'. I think today's action stars are too busy posing with their teeth gritted and worrying about their modeling careers to think of even doing that kind of stuff today, even with 'movie magic'.



Without movie magic, nor could Bruce Lee.



Mmm. Wouldn't go that far; Bruce had the skills.

Yeah. You guys have no idea what you're talking about. Your average longshoreman could take Jason Statham. Bruce Lee would have had him crying into his cheerios by the second take. The only reason McQueen had a stuntman was because the studio forced him. And I'm sure Lee and McQueen both would have a great deal of respect and admiration for what Daniel Craig has brought to Bond, were they alive.


Seems odd to praise Craig for his physicality and deny that Statham does the same..?
I'm still a bit baffled as to why you think McQueen was in any way dangerous? I'm sure he could out-drive him, but Statham routinely displays athletic kickboxing fighting skills, and was a World Championships-competing diver. Obviously he's not a real kickboxer, but some of it rubs off. Have you seen any of his films?


I've seen him in the Guy Ritchie movies, he didn't stand out but maybe I'm being too hard on him. But I think Daniel Craig brings a depths to his anger that your average action hero can't do, and he takes risks with his physicality, and I think he took McQueen's Thomas Crowne Affair as a touching off point for how to portray Bond.

McQueen kicked a guy's face in while balancing on a fence and let a bunch of cattle trample over him in 'Nevada Smith'. I think today's action stars are too busy posing with their teeth gritted and worrying about their modeling careers to think of even doing that kind of stuff today, even with 'movie magic'.


Oh by way McQueen is a real life tough guy doing that to someone ....................... bet he would'nt do it to say Mike Tyson or why not come over to the UK and try it on someone here he not last five minutes. But Steve McQueen real humble (with antics like that) mate you should not be applauding so called tough guy acts like that, you want real tough men try the British servicemen & women serving this country.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 12:04 AM

The answer is simple.


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Posted 22 May 2012 - 01:01 AM


Without movie magic, nor could Bruce Lee.


Mmm. Wouldn't go that far; Bruce had the skills.


He had skills alright, but in his weight class. He'd lose a fight with Muhammad Ali or Jason Statham.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 01:08 AM

Maybe his military cut styled hair had something to do with it.It narrowed his face immensely thus giving the impression of a smaller build.I think he is in fighting form thou.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 01:08 AM

Maybe his military cut styled hair had something to do with it.It narrowed his face immensely thus giving the impression of a smaller build.I think he is in fighting form thou.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 01:24 AM

All right, sorry for having raised the pitch here or getting off topic, I blame me.

But:


Big guys fall the hardest.

I believe Daniel Craig's three piece grey suit with blue shirt and tie at the end of Casino Royale was a direct nod to Steve McQueen since he wore the same thing in The Thomas Crowne Affair (a role Sean Connery turned down, btw). But I thought I'd made it clear that was my educated guess. If I didn't, my bad. When I get the chance to ask the Mr. Craig myself I'll make sure you'll be the first to know whether I got it right or not, Smudge76.

The point I'm trying to make in all this is that what Craig is doing as an actor (with due credit to the rest of the crew as well) is make Good James Bond films, not just disposable entertainment. And both types of films can apply to previous Bond films and both make tons of money, so I give credit to him/them for not taking the easier route.

As far as the McQueen/Statham thing goes, I can make this easy and just say to compare their Wikipedia entries. Just from a cursory glance it looks like while Statham was cutting his teeth as a very good diver, driver, and model, McQueen was a Marine, oil rigger, carnival salesman and lumberjack, among other things. Yeah, Statham does all or most of his own stunts, but so does Tom Cruise. And Elvis was real into martial arts too. McQueen didn't study martial arts at all and both Bruce Lee and McQueen's stuntman Bud Ekins can be seen in interviews talking at great length about the respect they had for McQueen's natural eclectic physicality, probably a result from life experience, something most actors in general are lacking these days.

Also from Wikipedia:

'McQueen commanded such respect in the United Kingdom that when visiting Chelsea Football Club's Stamford Bridge Stadium to watch a match, he was personally introduced to the players in the dressing room during the half-time break.'



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Posted 22 May 2012 - 01:29 AM

Some of these replies are pretty funny, they can't be serious. Bruce Lee couldn't fight? You have to be kidding right, try doing a bit of reading! :) http://en.wikipedia....e#Fight_history

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 02:02 AM

Some of these replies are pretty funny, they can't be serious. Bruce Lee couldn't fight? You have to be kidding right, try doing a bit of reading! :) http://en.wikipedia....e#Fight_history


I KNOW! :) I mean, 'one-inch punch', anybody...?