A question regarding Daniel Craig's "physique"
#1
Posted 21 May 2012 - 07:27 PM
Could it be part of the character's transition from the "ex-military" body type to the more traditional Bond image (if one can theorize such an image) - meaning fit but not overtly muscular?
Opinions are appreciated. :-)
#2
Posted 21 May 2012 - 07:43 PM
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 07:47 PM
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:00 PM
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:11 PM
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:16 PM
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:23 PM
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:26 PM
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:37 PM
#11
Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:52 PM
#12
Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:56 PM
There's a difference between being 'cut' and being 'huge'. Real action stars like Bruce Lee and Steve McQueen would have eaten walking action figures like Sylvester Stallone and Jason Statham for lunch. I think Daniel Craig belongs in the former company.
Steve McQueen could never take the Stath. He's a genuine ex-athlete.
#13
Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:57 PM
There's a difference between being 'cut' and being 'huge'. Real action stars like Bruce Lee and Steve McQueen would have eaten walking action figures like Sylvester Stallone and Jason Statham for lunch. I think Daniel Craig belongs in the former company.
Steve McQueen could never take the Stath.
Without movie magic, nor could Bruce Lee.
#14
Posted 21 May 2012 - 09:24 PM
There's a difference between being 'cut' and being 'huge'. Real action stars like Bruce Lee and Steve McQueen would have eaten walking action figures like Sylvester Stallone and Jason Statham for lunch. I think Daniel Craig belongs in the former company.
Steve McQueen could never take the Stath.
Without movie magic, nor could Bruce Lee.
Mate, you are VERY wrong about Mr. Lee.
#15
Posted 21 May 2012 - 09:53 PM
There's a difference between being 'cut' and being 'huge'. Real action stars like Bruce Lee and Steve McQueen would have eaten walking action figures like Sylvester Stallone and Jason Statham for lunch. I think Daniel Craig belongs in the former company.
Steve McQueen could never take the Stath.
Without movie magic, nor could Bruce Lee.
Mate, you are VERY wrong about Mr. Lee.
Yeah. You guys have no idea what you're talking about. Your average longshoreman could take Jason Statham. Bruce Lee would have had him crying into his cheerios by the second take. The only reason McQueen had a stuntman was because the studio forced him. And I'm sure Lee and McQueen both would have a great deal of respect and admiration for what Daniel Craig has brought to Bond, were they alive.
#16
Posted 21 May 2012 - 10:05 PM
Without movie magic, nor could Bruce Lee.
Mmm. Wouldn't go that far; Bruce had the skills.
Yeah. You guys have no idea what you're talking about. Your average longshoreman could take Jason Statham. Bruce Lee would have had him crying into his cheerios by the second take. The only reason McQueen had a stuntman was because the studio forced him. And I'm sure Lee and McQueen both would have a great deal of respect and admiration for what Daniel Craig has brought to Bond, were they alive.
Seems odd to praise Craig for his physicality and deny that Statham does the same..?
I'm still a bit baffled as to why you think McQueen was in any way dangerous? I'm sure he could out-drive him, but Statham routinely displays athletic kickboxing fighting skills, and was a World Championships-competing diver. Obviously he's not a real kickboxer, but some of it rubs off. Have you seen any of his films?
#17
Posted 21 May 2012 - 10:21 PM
Without movie magic, nor could Bruce Lee.
Mmm. Wouldn't go that far; Bruce had the skills.Yeah. You guys have no idea what you're talking about. Your average longshoreman could take Jason Statham. Bruce Lee would have had him crying into his cheerios by the second take. The only reason McQueen had a stuntman was because the studio forced him. And I'm sure Lee and McQueen both would have a great deal of respect and admiration for what Daniel Craig has brought to Bond, were they alive.
Seems odd to praise Craig for his physicality and deny that Statham does the same..?
I'm still a bit baffled as to why you think McQueen was in any way dangerous? I'm sure he could out-drive him, but Statham routinely displays athletic kickboxing fighting skills, and was a World Championships-competing diver. Obviously he's not a real kickboxer, but some of it rubs off. Have you seen any of his films?
I've seen him in the Guy Ritchie movies, he didn't stand out but maybe I'm being too hard on him. But I think Daniel Craig brings a depths to his anger that your average action hero can't do, and he takes risks with his physicality, and I think he took McQueen's Thomas Crowne Affair as a touching off point for how to portray Bond.
McQueen kicked a guy's face in while balancing on a fence and let a bunch of cattle trample over him in 'Nevada Smith'. I think today's action stars are too busy posing with their teeth gritted and worrying about their modeling careers to think of even doing that kind of stuff today, even with 'movie magic'.
#18
Posted 21 May 2012 - 10:24 PM
#19
Posted 21 May 2012 - 10:30 PM
I've seen him in the Guy Ritchie movies, he didn't stand out but maybe I'm being too hard on him.
Uh-huh. Then to use one of your favourite phrases: 'you don't know what you're talking about'.
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 10:34 PM
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 10:40 PM
#22
Posted 21 May 2012 - 10:42 PM
Touché...Yeah, I visit a James Bond 007 forum because it's a really grown-up thing to do.
You certainly have a point though, old chap. Now, I think Connery in his prime could 'take' them both...
#23
Posted 21 May 2012 - 11:05 PM
Without movie magic, nor could Bruce Lee.
Mmm. Wouldn't go that far; Bruce had the skills.Yeah. You guys have no idea what you're talking about. Your average longshoreman could take Jason Statham. Bruce Lee would have had him crying into his cheerios by the second take. The only reason McQueen had a stuntman was because the studio forced him. And I'm sure Lee and McQueen both would have a great deal of respect and admiration for what Daniel Craig has brought to Bond, were they alive.
Seems odd to praise Craig for his physicality and deny that Statham does the same..?
I'm still a bit baffled as to why you think McQueen was in any way dangerous? I'm sure he could out-drive him, but Statham routinely displays athletic kickboxing fighting skills, and was a World Championships-competing diver. Obviously he's not a real kickboxer, but some of it rubs off. Have you seen any of his films?
I've seen him in the Guy Ritchie movies, he didn't stand out but maybe I'm being too hard on him. But I think Daniel Craig brings a depths to his anger that your average action hero can't do, and he takes risks with his physicality, and I think he took McQueen's Thomas Crowne Affair as a touching off point for how to portray Bond.
McQueen kicked a guy's face in while balancing on a fence and let a bunch of cattle trample over him in 'Nevada Smith'. I think today's action stars are too busy posing with their teeth gritted and worrying about their modeling careers to think of even doing that kind of stuff today, even with 'movie magic'.
Without movie magic, nor could Bruce Lee.
Mmm. Wouldn't go that far; Bruce had the skills.Yeah. You guys have no idea what you're talking about. Your average longshoreman could take Jason Statham. Bruce Lee would have had him crying into his cheerios by the second take. The only reason McQueen had a stuntman was because the studio forced him. And I'm sure Lee and McQueen both would have a great deal of respect and admiration for what Daniel Craig has brought to Bond, were they alive.
Seems odd to praise Craig for his physicality and deny that Statham does the same..?
I'm still a bit baffled as to why you think McQueen was in any way dangerous? I'm sure he could out-drive him, but Statham routinely displays athletic kickboxing fighting skills, and was a World Championships-competing diver. Obviously he's not a real kickboxer, but some of it rubs off. Have you seen any of his films?
I've seen him in the Guy Ritchie movies, he didn't stand out but maybe I'm being too hard on him. But I think Daniel Craig brings a depths to his anger that your average action hero can't do, and he takes risks with his physicality, and I think he took McQueen's Thomas Crowne Affair as a touching off point for how to portray Bond.
McQueen kicked a guy's face in while balancing on a fence and let a bunch of cattle trample over him in 'Nevada Smith'. I think today's action stars are too busy posing with their teeth gritted and worrying about their modeling careers to think of even doing that kind of stuff today, even with 'movie magic'.
What the hell are you on about, Jason Statham was a national diver for GB so your comment makes no sense, and i don't think DC thought 'i play 007 like steve mcqueen' if you can produce article or better still interview ere he said that then ok but if not stop making up rubbish. Plus your comment on Bruce Lee yeah he may have made some good martial art movies but its all stuff for camera and that scene in Dragon where he had to fight to death it never happened.lets see Mr Lee in the Cage with 3 Paras Jack Marshman or maybe in boxing ring with ex 2 Paras Mike Orme. This is simple Daniel Craig is once again in top tip shape to portray the role of a former ex UKSF bloke, Jason statham is always in top shape.
Without movie magic, nor could Bruce Lee.
Mmm. Wouldn't go that far; Bruce had the skills.Yeah. You guys have no idea what you're talking about. Your average longshoreman could take Jason Statham. Bruce Lee would have had him crying into his cheerios by the second take. The only reason McQueen had a stuntman was because the studio forced him. And I'm sure Lee and McQueen both would have a great deal of respect and admiration for what Daniel Craig has brought to Bond, were they alive.
Seems odd to praise Craig for his physicality and deny that Statham does the same..?
I'm still a bit baffled as to why you think McQueen was in any way dangerous? I'm sure he could out-drive him, but Statham routinely displays athletic kickboxing fighting skills, and was a World Championships-competing diver. Obviously he's not a real kickboxer, but some of it rubs off. Have you seen any of his films?
I've seen him in the Guy Ritchie movies, he didn't stand out but maybe I'm being too hard on him. But I think Daniel Craig brings a depths to his anger that your average action hero can't do, and he takes risks with his physicality, and I think he took McQueen's Thomas Crowne Affair as a touching off point for how to portray Bond.
McQueen kicked a guy's face in while balancing on a fence and let a bunch of cattle trample over him in 'Nevada Smith'. I think today's action stars are too busy posing with their teeth gritted and worrying about their modeling careers to think of even doing that kind of stuff today, even with 'movie magic'.
Without movie magic, nor could Bruce Lee.
Mmm. Wouldn't go that far; Bruce had the skills.Yeah. You guys have no idea what you're talking about. Your average longshoreman could take Jason Statham. Bruce Lee would have had him crying into his cheerios by the second take. The only reason McQueen had a stuntman was because the studio forced him. And I'm sure Lee and McQueen both would have a great deal of respect and admiration for what Daniel Craig has brought to Bond, were they alive.
Seems odd to praise Craig for his physicality and deny that Statham does the same..?
I'm still a bit baffled as to why you think McQueen was in any way dangerous? I'm sure he could out-drive him, but Statham routinely displays athletic kickboxing fighting skills, and was a World Championships-competing diver. Obviously he's not a real kickboxer, but some of it rubs off. Have you seen any of his films?
I've seen him in the Guy Ritchie movies, he didn't stand out but maybe I'm being too hard on him. But I think Daniel Craig brings a depths to his anger that your average action hero can't do, and he takes risks with his physicality, and I think he took McQueen's Thomas Crowne Affair as a touching off point for how to portray Bond.
McQueen kicked a guy's face in while balancing on a fence and let a bunch of cattle trample over him in 'Nevada Smith'. I think today's action stars are too busy posing with their teeth gritted and worrying about their modeling careers to think of even doing that kind of stuff today, even with 'movie magic'.
Oh by way McQueen is a real life tough guy doing that to someone ....................... bet he would'nt do it to say Mike Tyson or why not come over to the UK and try it on someone here he not last five minutes. But Steve McQueen real humble (with antics like that) mate you should not be applauding so called tough guy acts like that, you want real tough men try the British servicemen & women serving this country.
#24
Posted 22 May 2012 - 12:04 AM
Tom Ford
#25
Posted 22 May 2012 - 01:01 AM
Without movie magic, nor could Bruce Lee.
Mmm. Wouldn't go that far; Bruce had the skills.
He had skills alright, but in his weight class. He'd lose a fight with Muhammad Ali or Jason Statham.
#26
Posted 22 May 2012 - 01:08 AM
#27
Posted 22 May 2012 - 01:08 AM
#28
Posted 22 May 2012 - 01:24 AM
But:
Big guys fall the hardest.
I believe Daniel Craig's three piece grey suit with blue shirt and tie at the end of Casino Royale was a direct nod to Steve McQueen since he wore the same thing in The Thomas Crowne Affair (a role Sean Connery turned down, btw). But I thought I'd made it clear that was my educated guess. If I didn't, my bad. When I get the chance to ask the Mr. Craig myself I'll make sure you'll be the first to know whether I got it right or not, Smudge76.
The point I'm trying to make in all this is that what Craig is doing as an actor (with due credit to the rest of the crew as well) is make Good James Bond films, not just disposable entertainment. And both types of films can apply to previous Bond films and both make tons of money, so I give credit to him/them for not taking the easier route.
As far as the McQueen/Statham thing goes, I can make this easy and just say to compare their Wikipedia entries. Just from a cursory glance it looks like while Statham was cutting his teeth as a very good diver, driver, and model, McQueen was a Marine, oil rigger, carnival salesman and lumberjack, among other things. Yeah, Statham does all or most of his own stunts, but so does Tom Cruise. And Elvis was real into martial arts too. McQueen didn't study martial arts at all and both Bruce Lee and McQueen's stuntman Bud Ekins can be seen in interviews talking at great length about the respect they had for McQueen's natural eclectic physicality, probably a result from life experience, something most actors in general are lacking these days.
Also from Wikipedia:
'McQueen commanded such respect in the United Kingdom that when visiting Chelsea Football Club's Stamford Bridge Stadium to watch a match, he was personally introduced to the players in the dressing room during the half-time break.'
#29
Posted 22 May 2012 - 01:29 AM
#30
Posted 22 May 2012 - 02:02 AM
Some of these replies are pretty funny, they can't be serious. Bruce Lee couldn't fight? You have to be kidding right, try doing a bit of reading!
http://en.wikipedia....e#Fight_history
I KNOW!

