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[Captain Tightpants]

I find this very intriguing.

http://thefilmstage....oldfinger-feel/#

So does everyone else:

http://debrief.comma...iversary-plans/

[DR76]

If this is true, this is a BAD mistake. The last thing I want to see is some second-rate attempt to recapture the feel and style of "GOLDFINGER" . . . especially since I can't stand the movie in the first place. Daniel Craig should stick to his own style of Bond movies, instead of trying to copy someone else's style.

Now, I'm really not looking forward to "SKYFALL", if this is true.

[delfloria]

Sounds like you did not experience the release of Goldfinger first hand when Bond defined an era. That was when 007 trancended being just a movie and changed entire lives.

[SecretAgentFan]

How can one not love GOLDFINGER?

[Shrublands]

How can one not love GOLDFINGER?

I know, simply can not understand it.

Wilson was using its reputation to make a point.

If you were to take a 100 people who know about film and ask, “Name a classic Bond movie that’s Bond with a capital B.” Family Fortune style.
Then the top answer by a landslide would be “Goldfinger”.

[SecretAgentFan]

How can one not love GOLDFINGER?

I know, simply can not understand it.

Wilson was using its reputation to make a point.

If you were to take a 100 people who know about film and ask, “Name a classic Bond movie that’s Bond with a capital B.” Family Fortune style.
Then the top answer by a landslide would be “Goldfinger”.

Yes!!!!

[SecretAgentFan]

Hmm, is the Fort Knox plan so much more fanciful than cutting off a whole country from the water supply - or getting money for a terrorist organization by winning a high stakes poker game?

What was I thinking? Anybody can get an atomic bomb at the corner drug store. And try to poison tens of thousands of troops with pilots led by a woman named Pussy Galore. Goldfinger and Quantum of Solace must have the same light, breezy tone.

:-)

Yeah, in that regard, you´re absolutely right. Still, GOLDFINGER is not more outlandish than CR and QOS if one wants to nitpick. Or did you ever try jumping on a crane, truck, whatever without breaking anything? Getting your balls whipped probably will also end in impotence (well, the certain infertility might be a plus for someone like Bond) and serious trauma whenever... well, let´s drop that. Jumping out of a plane and landing pretty much in good shape... well, I would say, at least Bond´s physical problems in GOLDFINGER were much more realistically handled than in any Craig movie.

In any event, a kind of GOLDFINGER would perfectly be in line with CR and QOS as a natural progression, wouldn´t it?

[TCK]

I dislike Goldfinger too. And I also dislike The spy who loved me. Both are great Bond films but I just can't stand them. They are just weak to me.
Plus, a "Goldfinger feel" doesn't mean anything. I already said that about the "60s feel", but for a 2011 movie, it's nonsense.

[SecretAgentFan]

Disliking GF and TSWLM... oh, boy, what is the world coming to?

But I respect... um, accept your opinion, of course.

[occhile007]

I dislike Goldfinger too. And I also dislike The spy who loved me. Both are great Bond films but I just can't stand them. They are just weak to me.
Plus, a "Goldfinger feel" doesn't mean anything. I already said that about the "60s feel", but for a 2011 movie, it's nonsense.

"Losers always wine about their best...winners go home and f the prom queen!!!" Sorry old boy, wrong movie..."Wrong pussy..."

[univex]

Disliking GF and TSWLM... oh, boy, what is the world coming to?

But I respect... um, accept your opinion, of course.

I dislike Goldfinger...the novel Not the film of course. Still, FRWL and TB are better IMHO.

[univex]

In any event, a kind of GOLDFINGER would perfectly be in line with CR and QOS as a natural progression, wouldn´t it?

I suppose so, yes, but it is quite difficult to define GF. DN=detective story; FRWL=spy story; GF=...; TB=super spy story; YOLT= OTT escapism story. Although I would say GF has the iconic aspect working in it´s favour. I happen to like GF (the movie, not the novel, which is the worst Fleming novel IMO) and I wouldn´t mind at all if SF channeled a bit of it.

[tdalton]

I dislike Goldfinger too. And I also dislike The spy who loved me. Both are great Bond films but I just can't stand them. They are just weak to me.
Plus, a "Goldfinger feel" doesn't mean anything. I already said that about the "60s feel", but for a 2011 movie, it's nonsense.

I dislike Goldfinger as well. I don't take too much stock into this comment, however, as I don't think that they're going to try to simply replicate GF into a modern context. I take it more to mean that they're going to lighten things up a bit and let Bond have a little bit more fun, maybe with the return of some of the more classic elements (although I can't say that I'm particularly thrilled with that either, but that's a discussion for another day) rather than simply trying to make a modern take on GF.

[TCK]

Disliking GF and TSWLM... oh, boy, what is the world coming to?

But I respect... um, accept your opinion, of course.

According to your profile...
Favourite Film : The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
Favourite Villain : Auric Goldfinger (Gert Fröbe)
I knew you'd react that way. Why disliking Goldfinger and Spy is an aberration for you ?

And I agree with you tdalton. Skyfall will certainly be more sedate than were both Casino and Quantum.

[jaguar007]

Wilson was probably referring to to having a good balance between realism and fantasy.

[Shrublands]

In any event, a kind of GOLDFINGER would perfectly be in line with CR and QOS as a natural progression, wouldn´t it?

I suppose so, yes, but it is quite difficult to define GF. DN=detective story; FRWL=spy story; GF=...; TB=super spy story; YOLT= OTT escapism story.

GF = The Bond film

[Matt_13]

I think he was probably just referring to the overall good vibe he's getting from the production. I imagine with the crew they have assembled, confidence is at an all time high (no pun intended). He's feeling good about it. Oh, and I also find Goldfinger a bit stale. I just don't find it terrible exciting. Iconic? Yes, but not exciting.

[Guy Haines]

Depends which interview with the Bond producers you've read, and believe. One I read recently stated that Skyfall would carry on with the same style of the two previous Craig films. Another mentions a "60s" feel. One thing Michael Wilson was asked about was humour, and I think he said that while it would be there, it would be more subtle or tongue in cheek than belly laugh out loud.

Which sounds quite similar to the classic 60s style to me. And since I was brought up on it, I for one wouldn't complain too much.

[ggl]

In any event, a kind of GOLDFINGER would perfectly be in line with CR and QOS as a natural progression, wouldn´t it?

I suppose so, yes, but it is quite difficult to define GF. DN=detective story; FRWL=spy story; GF=...; TB=super spy story; YOLT= OTT escapism story.

GF = The Bond film

GF=Bond History

[Luigi Ferrari]

http://whogottherole.com/movie-tv-news/movie-news/daniel-craig-talks-dragon-tattoo-next-bond-film-skyfall/

Daniel Craig talks ‘Dragon Tattoo,’ next Bond film ‘Skyfall’

...

Q: Since you’re in London, shooting “Skyfall” -– and even looking like 007 right now -– do you still feel as good about the upcoming Bond movie as you did before the shoot?
DC: Oh yes. It’s a great, fantastic script, and we’re making a very good Bond movie. It’s going to be very special and different, but it’s still very much tied to Bonds of old. I’ve said it over and over again, but I’m very excited about “Skyfall,” and Sam’s [Mendes, the director] doing a wonderful job.

[Captain Tightpants]

Honestly, I think these comments are far too vague to actually mean anything. What, exactly, gives a "60s feel" to the film?

[Aris007]

Touché!

[MarkA]

I knew you'd react that way. Why disliking Goldfinger and Spy is an aberration for you ?

I can kind of understand the dislike of Spy because it has always seemed to me an inferior remake of a weak film in the first place. The same applies to Moonraker. But Goldfinger defined the series, was the template, was the reason the series was a worldwide success and at the time was an incredible and original film. For younger Bond fans I think it's lustre has diminished because like all defining art it gets copied to death. I remember when I was young I used to sneer at my father's love of John Wayne and Frank Sinatra but as I got older I realised these peoples contribution to their art and the impact it had. Whether liked, fair enough subjective, but Goldfinger must be respected. Bond would not have lasted 50 years without it, and it is not even my favourite Bond film.

Edited by MarkA, 23 December 2011 - 12:15 PM.

[Vauxhall]

Honestly, I think these comments are far too vague to actually mean anything. What, exactly, gives a "60s feel" to the film?

Flared trousers, presumably. It's a very vague description and I don't read too much into either. I think it's mainly been jumped upon by fans of early Connery, who have then moulded the term to apply to whatever they'd like to see - not that optimism is necessarily wrong!

[Tybre]

Honestly, I think these comments are far too vague to actually mean anything. What, exactly, gives a "60s feel" to the film?

Retro design. Different palette. More deliberate pacing. I have no clue. As you say, way too vague.

[delfloria]

60's style means different things to different people but when you are talking GOLDFINGER, fantastic Ken Adam larger than life sets, a secret agent with confidence to spare, sexy sophisticated women, amazing gadgets (that might just really work - unlike Brosnan's laser watch) a single larger than life visionary villain and a plot that has never been seen in film history before come to mind. These are all things Craig's next film could use after the WAY too serious and mundane ride that was QoS.

[Captain Tightpants]

Really?

Because when you talk about GOLDFINGER, all I can think of is an incompetent Bond, and incompetent villain, subplots that start without reason and are cut off before they can go anywhere, characters who do nothing, and a running time that is both arduously and needlessly long (which is weird considering it is the shortest Bond film).

[Napoleon Solo]

Michael G. Wilson seems to channel P.T. Barnum. In November (at the news conference), he seemed to say no change in direction from Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace. In December, in the interview with The People, he's talking about a "magical Goldfinger feel" or whatever. Caveat emptor.

[lechero]

...and a running time that is both arduously and needlessly long (which is weird considering it is the shortest Bond film).

Not anymore.

For all its faults, I still rank Goldfinger very highely. It's got an inept Bond, sure, but like all the other 60s outings, it has an undeniably great atmosphere, one of the most memorable villains of the franchise and a, once again, tremendous Barry soundtrack.

[J B]

http://whogottherole...d-film-skyfall/

Daniel Craig talks ‘Dragon Tattoo,’ next Bond film ‘Skyfall’

...

Q: Since you’re in London, shooting “Skyfall” -– and even looking like 007 right now -– do you still feel as good about the upcoming Bond movie as you did before the shoot?
DC: Oh yes. It’s a great, fantastic script, and we’re making a very good Bond movie. It’s going to be very special and different, but it’s still very much tied to Bonds of old. I’ve said it over and over again, but I’m very excited about “Skyfall,” and Sam’s [Mendes, the director] doing a wonderful job.

Whether it has a 1960s vibe or not in some way, I have a good feeling about Skyfall. Daniel Craig seems to be very enthusiastic about it, which I hope will translate into good acting (and a good plot) on the screen.