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[Skudor]

I just want a Bond film that isn't overly self referential or self involved. Bond's there to foil the villain's plot, not to star in some self involved melodrama.

Some references to CR and QOS in the title sequence would be cool, if well done. A new twist on the Goldfinger sequence.

[David Schofield]

Maybe that's how they'll honour the 50th anniversary - a more seasoned Bond discussing the missions we've skipped over as he pulls Honey's knife, etc, from his desk drawer....

LOL

That will be the scene where I take a fist full of popcorn and throw it at the screen.

No more references to the past - after all the real past is now the cinematic future that will never be.

Imagine the screen time that would be used up (not to mention the size of the drawer) if he pulled out something from every movie, beginning with Honey's knife and ending with Jinx's knife. Aside from hardcore fans. nobody would know what the hell was going on.

Yep, I want a ten minute scene where Bond takes all of the following out of his drawer (its a big drawer); Deep breath : Honey's knife, Grant's watch/garotte, the shoe homing device, underwater camera, ninja star, wedding ring, shark gun, solex agitator, set of metal teeth, wrist dart gun, Dove pin, yo-yo buzzsaw, Q's surveillance robodog, a sack of opium, Felix's lighter, a belt with a piton, cellphone with remote control car touchpad, half a piece of plutonium, a glass-shattering ring, a poker chip, and a Q badge. That won't feel like an awkward scene at all!

Surely, the poker chip and Q badge would have to come first....?

And obviously Bond would have to be lifting that lot from a trunk and probably injurying his back with the load, rather than from a draw with cool insouciance like Laz did.

I can see Craig making it work.

[thecasinoroyale]

I like the idea of the homage to previous missions (not always the films) in the title sequence to show Bond's progression, as I agree there must be 4-5 years from QoS.

[dinovelvet]

Seeing the recent Bond swimming photos might suggest that Bond is having a 'getting back in shape' sequence. I wonder if at the start of SF, Bond has been living Fleming's 'soft life'? i.e. there has been no real action at MI6 since the end of QOS, and Bond has been doing monotonous desk work, walking around with stubble...and then something major happens, and he cleans up, gets in shape, and gets back in the game.

[The Shark]

All we need is....

[Matt_13]

Seeing the recent Bond swimming photos might suggest that Bond is having a 'getting back in shape' sequence. I wonder if at the start of SF, Bond has been living Fleming's 'soft life'? i.e. there has been no real action at MI6 since the end of QOS, and Bond has been doing monotonous desk work, walking around with stubble...and then something major happens, and he cleans up, gets in shape, and gets back in the game.

That had also crossed my mind. It could also just be that Bond is simply trying to stay sharp while on assignment. From what we've gathered, anyway, those scenes at the pool seem to take place in

Spoiler

Shanghai

. Also, I don't know about you guys, but going for a swim helps me clear my mind, and allows me to think. Could also be a sequence where Bond is going over things in his head while punishing his body with a serious swim.

[Captain Tightpants]

I certainly think that's something Fleming's Bond would do (though I can't recall any specific instances of it) - pushing his mind or his body to the limit with a simple task, unrelated to the crisis at hand. It was a bit like the way Deaver's Bond used an ivory-handled straight razor, not because it gave him a better shave, but because it required skill to be used properly.

[thecasinoroyale]

@The Shark - I can deffo see Bond starting to get back into shape with the old 'Hearts On Fire' blaring out. Good one!

[Captain Tightpants]

I can deffo see Bond starting to get back into shape with the old 'Hearts On Fire' blaring out.

[CasinoKiller]

I've given this a bit of thought as well.

I definetly think they're done with the 'Early Bond' story arc. By the end of QOS, Bond has gotten over Vesper, has cemented his professional and personal relationship with M, and by capturing Yusef instead of killing him has demonstrated his value as a clear-headed, pragmatic and objective agent to MI6.

I'd like to see Skyfall set a few years after the events of CR and QOS...in fact, maybe as much as 6 years! Bond is now the senior-most agent in the 00 Section (which is what he was presented as in the Fleming books) and is one of MI6's finest (if not THE finest). He's developed a bit of a reputation amongst the big brass as well (as opposed to QOS, where he was considered a rogue element and the Foreign Minister was screaming for his head...)

That said, I always found it interesting how each of the previous Bond actors, intentionally or unintentionally, portrayed Bond at a particular age and era of his career. Connery played Bond as a razor-sharp, coolly efficient agent, with years of experiance under his belt...but somehow, one didn't get the impression he was THE Best...just ONE of the best. Lazenby played Bond roughly the same way, though not at all particularly well. Moore played Bond as an older agent, one who is considered THE best agent in the Service (he's even referred to as the 'legendary 007' in AVTAK if memory serves me right), and who has perhaps grown a bit whimsical after decades of saving the world. Dalton (whom I have always considered a 'semi-reboot' of Bond) plays a very different kind of 'veteran Bond'. He plays a Bond who is the consummate professional, but who, after years of spy-work, has grown a bit weary and disillusioned and as such tends to question orders, has a bit of an edge to him, and tends to rely more on his instincts and emotions than Connery's Bond. Brosnan's Bond is, what I feel, Dalton's Bond would be like in the Post Cold-War world-a Cold War era killing machine forced to 'cool down' in a new unfamiliar world with a new boss and more assertive and independent women around him.

Craig is the first time an 'Early Bond' has been done (either in film or anywhere else), but I hope that now Craig plays Bond a lot like he was in the 'Connery era'-an efficient machine and one of the best agents (but not yet THE best!)

[SecretAgentFan]

The Craig Bond is IMO a new timeline. Kind of like the Abrams´ STAR TREK without the time travel element.

So, please no reference to the previous twenty films. If there is a reference, it should only be made to CR and QOS (or without being directly mentioned in the dialogue, like Fields´ oil death being presented like the Masterson gold death).

[occhile007]

So if we want a retro sytle opening, do we look at someone else besides MK12 to create it? I mean there's was cool because they brought back the Bond girls, but it did give me a bit of a headache in the theaters.

If anyone has seen The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo...than you will understand why I want that person to create the new title sequence...it was bad .

[The Shark]

So if we want a retro sytle opening, do we look at someone else besides MK12 to create it? I mean there's was cool because they brought back the Bond girls, but it did give me a bit of a headache in the theaters.

Daniel Kleinman?

That's a good idea for a thread though. Who do want to see design the titles?

[occhile007]

So if we want a retro sytle opening, do we look at someone else besides MK12 to create it? I mean there's was cool because they brought back the Bond girls, but it did give me a bit of a headache in the theaters.

Daniel Kleinman?

That's a good idea for a thread though. Who do want to see design the titles?

Alright, I'll take one for the team and create it. haha.