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Who is the main Bond Girl? Bernice or Naomie?


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#1 Kristian

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 12:51 AM

Just wondering if we will have an equal distribution of screen time like Natalya/Xenia, Elektra/Christmas, and Lupe/Pam - or an imbalanced one like Paris/Wai Lin, Solange/Vesper, and Camille/Fields...

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 01:01 AM

It's difficult to tell. EON seem to have gone to considerable lengths to keep things as secret as possible for as long as possible. Even when they did give us details (as in the case of Eve and Severine), they only gave us the bare minimum.

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 02:29 AM

I'm going to assume that Eve is the primary Bond girl and Severine is Bardem's lady friend. (I base this off of the red dress worn at the press event and the fact that Marlohe had her pictures taken aside Bardem afterward, course she may have just liked the dress and had merely stood next to Javier for no apparent reason)

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 02:31 AM

I'm going to assume that Eve is the primary Bond girl and Severine is Bardem's lady friend. (I base this off of the red dress worn at the press event and the fact that Marlohe had her pictures taken aside Bardem afterward, course she may have just liked the dress and had merely stood next to Javier for no apparent reason)



Your powers of reasoning have made Sherlock Holmes extremely envious. ;)

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 03:37 AM

I'm thinking Severine is the main Bond girl and Eve is a more involved Agent Fields type character.

that is what I thinking......but who knows really?

Edited by 007jamesbond, 09 November 2011 - 03:38 AM.


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Posted 09 November 2011 - 04:07 AM

Naomie is the bigger "name" for sure...that could mean main Bond girl. But that's no definite indicator, as we've seen before.

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 04:20 AM


I'm going to assume that Eve is the primary Bond girl and Severine is Bardem's lady friend. (I base this off of the red dress worn at the press event and the fact that Marlohe had her pictures taken aside Bardem afterward, course she may have just liked the dress and had merely stood next to Javier for no apparent reason)



Your powers of reasoning have made Sherlock Holmes extremely envious. ;)


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Posted 09 November 2011 - 07:59 AM

Interesting one of Berenice



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Posted 09 November 2011 - 08:32 AM

I'm going to assume that Eve is the primary Bond girl and Severine is Bardem's lady friend. (I base this off of the red dress worn at the press event and the fact that Marlohe had her pictures taken aside Bardem afterward, course she may have just liked the dress and had merely stood next to Javier for no apparent reason)


And Baz Bamigboye, who has had quite an amazing strike rate on Skyfall, has said…

Javier Bardem and the little-known French actress Berenice Marlohe will play the latest villains.



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Posted 09 November 2011 - 08:53 AM

The French bird is the villain's no-acting-required-European doxy. (Or in this case the, the under-villain, Fieness being the uber-villain ;) ) Shagged by Bond. Nicely allow Craig-Bond to get his two-per-movie average going after being Mr Celebate and Damaged in QOS, and, well, sexually, a bit odd in CR.

Cracking looking bird. Traditional EON tactic.

Harris is Craig's "unequal" leading lady.

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 10:15 AM

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 10:57 AM

I reckon BM will get lots of pretty background screentime, with much less talking involved. No doubt she'll be bedded by Bond - all for the sake of the mission, of course.

Harris will talk a lot and get saved a lot.

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 10:57 AM

Marlohe can barely speak English, she is definitely the eye-candy secondary Bond girl a la Solange.

Harris is our leading lady.

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 11:22 AM

Marlohe can barely speak English, she is definitely the eye-candy secondary Bond girl a la Solange.

Harris is our leading lady.


If her and Bardems character are based on being Spanish or with spanish speaking background, wouldn't it be normal, if they had their accents? But then again, if Bardem is working on his vocals?...but he will never speak clear english, never mind, what he tries, so...by looks, they could be from South Europe, South America or else...

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 11:27 AM

It is interesting that Bardem was practicing his English vowels - his English is fine as long as he's meant to be foreign. Is he perhaps meant to be 'less' foreign than one might assume (i.e. like so many of the Fleming villains - a foreign background but been in the UK for a long time).

#16 Kristian

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 08:12 PM

It is interesting that Bardem was practicing his English vowels - his English is fine as long as he's meant to be foreign. Is he perhaps meant to be 'less' foreign than one might assume (i.e. like so many of the Fleming villains - a foreign background but been in the UK for a long time).


Interesting that Bardem is finally a Bond Villain. I read somewhere that he was originally supposed to be Renard in TWINE. What a difference taht would've made, eh?

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 08:40 PM


It is interesting that Bardem was practicing his English vowels - his English is fine as long as he's meant to be foreign. Is he perhaps meant to be 'less' foreign than one might assume (i.e. like so many of the Fleming villains - a foreign background but been in the UK for a long time).


Interesting that Bardem is finally a Bond Villain. I read somewhere that he was originally supposed to be Renard in TWINE. What a difference taht would've made, eh?


He would've been too much of a match for Brosnan, who had trouble even coping with someone the size of Carlyle.

Maybe Marlohe will be dubbed like in the good old days.

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 08:48 PM



It is interesting that Bardem was practicing his English vowels - his English is fine as long as he's meant to be foreign. Is he perhaps meant to be 'less' foreign than one might assume (i.e. like so many of the Fleming villains - a foreign background but been in the UK for a long time).


Interesting that Bardem is finally a Bond Villain. I read somewhere that he was originally supposed to be Renard in TWINE. What a difference taht would've made, eh?


He would've been too much of a match for Brosnan, who had trouble even coping with someone the size of Carlyle.

Maybe Marlohe will be dubbed like in the good old days.


Haha.... too right. No diz to Pierce...

Back to Eve/Severine... In an interview, Naomie H. mentioned that Eve sees herself as Bond's equal but is definitely not. This is an interesting tack to take. I wonder if EON is expanding upon the scene in QOS where Bond mentors Camille on the art of killing while they are hiding in the desert. It would be interesting to see a Bond-Bond Girl relationship that may involve sex but is also about mentorship - an older agent guiding a younger agent.

As far as Severine, seems like she's the Villain's Girlfriend in the vein of Lupe and Solange. Hope she's closer to Lupe (who had a lot to do) than Solange (who didn't have much)... Lupe actually was a good role (trying to keep a happy face to Sanchez while plotting behind his back with Bond). Solange didn't have a chance to chew the scenery...

Thoughts?

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 09:00 PM

Hey, for the hell of it, I'll go against the grain then: Berenice is the main girl and Naomi is a sacrifical chicken! ;) This said I suspect that Naomi will have the bigger role! I like the idea that Naomi appears to be the main Bond girl, Berenice appears to be the villain's moll, but thing get thrown around a bit towards the end.

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 09:17 PM




It is interesting that Bardem was practicing his English vowels - his English is fine as long as he's meant to be foreign. Is he perhaps meant to be 'less' foreign than one might assume (i.e. like so many of the Fleming villains - a foreign background but been in the UK for a long time).


Interesting that Bardem is finally a Bond Villain. I read somewhere that he was originally supposed to be Renard in TWINE. What a difference taht would've made, eh?


He would've been too much of a match for Brosnan, who had trouble even coping with someone the size of Carlyle.

Maybe Marlohe will be dubbed like in the good old days.


Haha.... too right. No diz to Pierce...

Back to Eve/Severine... In an interview, Naomie H. mentioned that Eve sees herself as Bond's equal but is definitely not. This is an interesting tack to take. I wonder if EON is expanding upon the scene in QOS where Bond mentors Camille on the art of killing while they are hiding in the desert. It would be interesting to see a Bond-Bond Girl relationship that may involve sex but is also about mentorship - an older agent guiding a younger agent.

As far as Severine, seems like she's the Villain's Girlfriend in the vein of Lupe and Solange. Hope she's closer to Lupe (who had a lot to do) than Solange (who didn't have much)... Lupe actually was a good role (trying to keep a happy face to Sanchez while plotting behind his back with Bond). Solange didn't have a chance to chew the scenery...

Thoughts?


Since Berenice is French, maybe she'll be in the mould of Domino in Thunderball (who was also French) to Bardem's similar villain to Largo.

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 09:57 PM





It is interesting that Bardem was practicing his English vowels - his English is fine as long as he's meant to be foreign. Is he perhaps meant to be 'less' foreign than one might assume (i.e. like so many of the Fleming villains - a foreign background but been in the UK for a long time).


Interesting that Bardem is finally a Bond Villain. I read somewhere that he was originally supposed to be Renard in TWINE. What a difference taht would've made, eh?


He would've been too much of a match for Brosnan, who had trouble even coping with someone the size of Carlyle.

Maybe Marlohe will be dubbed like in the good old days.


Haha.... too right. No diz to Pierce...

Back to Eve/Severine... In an interview, Naomie H. mentioned that Eve sees herself as Bond's equal but is definitely not. This is an interesting tack to take. I wonder if EON is expanding upon the scene in QOS where Bond mentors Camille on the art of killing while they are hiding in the desert. It would be interesting to see a Bond-Bond Girl relationship that may involve sex but is also about mentorship - an older agent guiding a younger agent.

As far as Severine, seems like she's the Villain's Girlfriend in the vein of Lupe and Solange. Hope she's closer to Lupe (who had a lot to do) than Solange (who didn't have much)... Lupe actually was a good role (trying to keep a happy face to Sanchez while plotting behind his back with Bond). Solange didn't have a chance to chew the scenery...

Thoughts?


Since Berenice is French, maybe she'll be in the mould of Domino in Thunderball (who was also French) to Bardem's similar villain to Largo.



I always thought Camille was a cross between Domino and Melina...

I am so pumped for SKYFALL. Hope it continues CR and QOS' excellent run...

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 03:46 AM

Hey, for the hell of it, I'll go against the grain then: Berenice is the main girl and Naomi is a sacrifical chicken! ;) This said I suspect that Naomi will have the bigger role! I like the idea that Naomi appears to be the main Bond girl, Berenice appears to be the villain's moll, but thing get thrown around a bit towards the end.


Thanks, S, for that out-of-the-box idea. I like it. It was the approach I was hoping DAD would take with Miranda and Jinx. Alas, our Ice Princess got, uh, skewered and the Agent From The Hood (Yo Mama!) got to shag James in a shack in North Korea...

Sigh....

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 04:31 AM

I'm going to assume that Eve is the primary Bond girl and Severine is Bardem's lady friend.

This is what I think as well.

#24 Mr. Wint

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 06:18 AM

Naomie is the good (main) girl, Berenice is the bad girl. She's supposed to be Javier's wife/girlfriend.

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 12:24 PM

I don't see that they'll make Naomie Harris turn traitor and really be working for Bardem, otherwise that will be a rehash of Miranda Frost. Of course, Purvis and Wade could be recycling ideas if the well has run dry (or they thought it was a great concept at the time). Somehow though I don't see Bardem with Harris. Bardem with Marlohe seem more like a potential couple (that will be torn apart by Bond). Marlohe could very well be like how Domino was Largo's girlfriend but once she found out that Largo had murdered her brother, she turned on him.

I think we need a third Bond girl though.

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 02:26 PM

I don't see that they'll make Naomie Harris turn traitor and really be working for Bardem, otherwise that will be a rehash of Miranda Frost. Of course, Purvis and Wade could be recycling ideas if the well has run dry (or they thought it was a great concept at the time). Somehow though I don't see Bardem with Harris. Bardem with Marlohe seem more like a potential couple (that will be torn apart by Bond). Marlohe could very well be like how Domino was Largo's girlfriend but once she found out that Largo had murdered her brother, she turned on him.

I think we need a third Bond girl though.


We already have a third Bond girl.

M. And she's gonna be alllllll over this one!

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 04:43 PM


I don't see that they'll make Naomie Harris turn traitor and really be working for Bardem, otherwise that will be a rehash of Miranda Frost. Of course, Purvis and Wade could be recycling ideas if the well has run dry (or they thought it was a great concept at the time). Somehow though I don't see Bardem with Harris. Bardem with Marlohe seem more like a potential couple (that will be torn apart by Bond). Marlohe could very well be like how Domino was Largo's girlfriend but once she found out that Largo had murdered her brother, she turned on him.

I think we need a third Bond girl though.


We already have a third Bond girl.

M. And she's gonna be alllllll over this one!


Talking about being negative...

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 05:03 PM



I don't see that they'll make Naomie Harris turn traitor and really be working for Bardem, otherwise that will be a rehash of Miranda Frost. Of course, Purvis and Wade could be recycling ideas if the well has run dry (or they thought it was a great concept at the time). Somehow though I don't see Bardem with Harris. Bardem with Marlohe seem more like a potential couple (that will be torn apart by Bond). Marlohe could very well be like how Domino was Largo's girlfriend but once she found out that Largo had murdered her brother, she turned on him.

I think we need a third Bond girl though.


We already have a third Bond girl.

M. And she's gonna be alllllll over this one!


Talking about being negative...


Not being negative, just joining in with the knee-jerk reaction of everyone on these boards concerning M's "past coming back to haunt her".

And we definitely don't need ANOTHER Bond girl, we already have Bardem, Fiennes, McCory, Finney to concentrate weaving into the story along with Harris and Marlohe. A third one just isn't needed.

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 07:41 PM

Since Berenice is French, maybe she'll be in the mould of Domino in Thunderball (who was also French) to Bardem's similar villain to Largo.


I like this idea. This would be incredible.

Edited by Gt Munn, 15 November 2011 - 09:13 PM.


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Posted 11 November 2011 - 12:19 AM




I don't see that they'll make Naomie Harris turn traitor and really be working for Bardem, otherwise that will be a rehash of Miranda Frost. Of course, Purvis and Wade could be recycling ideas if the well has run dry (or they thought it was a great concept at the time). Somehow though I don't see Bardem with Harris. Bardem with Marlohe seem more like a potential couple (that will be torn apart by Bond). Marlohe could very well be like how Domino was Largo's girlfriend but once she found out that Largo had murdered her brother, she turned on him.

I think we need a third Bond girl though.


We already have a third Bond girl.

M. And she's gonna be alllllll over this one!


Talking about being negative...


Not being negative, just joining in with the knee-jerk reaction of everyone on these boards concerning M's "past coming back to haunt her".

And we definitely don't need ANOTHER Bond girl, we already have Bardem, Fiennes, McCory, Finney to concentrate weaving into the story along with Harris and Marlohe. A third one just isn't needed.


Several of the old Bond movies have Bond bedding more than one or two ladies, or at least making advances. Goldfinger had Margaret Nolan, Shirley Eaton, Tania Mallet and Honor Blackman. Thunderball had that girl at the beginning, Luciana Paluzi, Martine Beswick and Claudine Auger. TSWLM had the girl at the beginning, Barbara Bach and Caroline Munro. Goldeneye had Serena Gordon, Isabella Scorupco and Famke Janssen. TND had Cecile Thomsen, Daphne Deckers, Teri Hatcher and Michelle Yeoh. TWINE had Maria Grazia Cucinotta, Serena Scott Thomas, Sophie Marceau and Denise Richards.