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[BryanHerbert]

I just recently have check a few websites and it has come to my attention that Mr.White has been taken off of the casting list.

[Captain Tightpants]

I just recently have check a few websites and it has come to my attention that Mr.White has been taken off of the casting list.

Let me guess: you went to IMdB, the least-reliable website on the internet. Wait for confirmation before getting too far ahead of yourself. After ll, they list Mendes as director, despite the fact that he hasn't agreed to anything.

And besides, BOND 23 may have nothing to do with Quantum. Daniel Craig is reportedly against a trilogy, and besides, the producers need to establish Bond as being ina world that isn't just occupied by himself and Quantum.

[Jim]

He might or he might not.

Is about it.

[Quantumofsolace007]

i'll go against the grain and say He is coming back..... i mean they have a cool orgnization why not use them


and yes Shark i said a cool orgnization I think after they explore them a bit more in bond 23 you'll agree with me.

[General G.]

Hmmm. So Mr. White could be "The One That Got Away"...

[Judo chop]

I truly believe the script has progressed to such a place where Mr. White's identity has been revealed to Bond as merely an alias, but that his real name is yet to be discovered by our hero. Obviously the script is being constructed in strict chronological order from title to conclusion, and the ever-vigilant IMDB is on the case reporting the story’s progress in near real time.

Jesper will be showing up on IMDB soon enough again, this time alongside his new character name, which I’m betting is probably Risico Brown.

[MajorB]

And besides, BOND 23 may have nothing to do with Quantum. Daniel Craig is reportedly against a trilogy, and besides, the producers need to establish Bond as being ina world that isn't just occupied by himself and Quantum.

I don't think DC ever said he didn't want Quantum back, did he? All I think he's said is that he feels they've finished the arc that began in CR with Bond earning his stripes, being betrayed by Vesper, and resolving his issues surrounding that betrayal. He doesn't want those issues revisited in a third film. But I don't think he's expressed opposition to Quantum resurfacing, unless I've missed something.

[Judo chop]

As far as I know, MajorB is correct. We have no evidence to think a Quantum appearance is anything but viable.

(But I suppose an argument could be made that where there is Quantum, there also is the memory of Vesper.)

[bondrules]

Personally, I don't care much if he returns or not. I just want a good solid Bond movie. I've been traumatized by QoS.

[I never miss]

I truly believe the script has progressed to such a place where Mr. White's identity has been revealed to Bond as merely an alias, but that his real name is yet to be discovered by our hero. Obviously the script is being constructed in strict chronological order from title to conclusion, and the ever-vigilant IMDB is on the case reporting the story’s progress in near real time.

Jesper will be showing up on IMDB soon enough again, this time alongside his new character name, which I’m betting is probably Risico Brown.

What with the organization being called Quantum and all (purely after Eon had decided on Quantum of Solace as a title), I suggest calling Mr White by his real name - Mr Risico White - and calling the film 'Backronym: The Movie'

[AMC Hornet]

Just because the last two films used original Fleming titles doesn't mean that trend will continue with what little material is left.

"Risico White"? What kind of a name is that?

"My parents were Italian. I anglicized my name from Risk Blanco."

Besides, the Property of a Lady' is more viable a title, despite having been heard in dialogue before (like "good motto, eh? 'the world is not enough.'" and "you have a licence to kill, not get killed.")

But if another title - or another director - is chosen, I won't boycott the film.

[Captain Tightpants]

And besides, BOND 23 may have nothing to do with Quantum. Daniel Craig is reportedly against a trilogy, and besides, the producers need to establish Bond as being ina world that isn't just occupied by himself and Quantum.

I don't think DC ever said he didn't want Quantum back, did he? All I think he's said is that he feels they've finished the arc that began in CR with Bond earning his stripes, being betrayed by Vesper, and resolving his issues surrounding that betrayal. He doesn't want those issues revisited in a third film. But I don't think he's expressed opposition to Quantum resurfacing, unless I've missed something.

I got the impresson that he didn't want to do Quantm in BOND 23, but that they'd come back to it later. Sort of how GOLDFINGER was unrelated to SPECRTRE.

[Quantumofsolace007]

And besides, BOND 23 may have nothing to do with Quantum. Daniel Craig is reportedly against a trilogy, and besides, the producers need to establish Bond as being ina world that isn't just occupied by himself and Quantum.

I don't think DC ever said he didn't want Quantum back, did he? All I think he's said is that he feels they've finished the arc that began in CR with Bond earning his stripes, being betrayed by Vesper, and resolving his issues surrounding that betrayal. He doesn't want those issues revisited in a third film. But I don't think he's expressed opposition to Quantum resurfacing, unless I've missed something.

I got the impresson that he didn't want to do Quantm in BOND 23, but that they'd come back to it later. Sort of how GOLDFINGER was unrelated to SPECRTRE.

the real problem there is Quantum of Solace is not from russia with love. We don't know a lot about Quantum and we need another film to discuss them and then we can move along with a goldfinger type film(with Shatterhand being the perfect title for Dr Gutham Von Shatterhand being the villian)

[DaveBond21]

Hmmm. So Mr. White could be "The One That Got Away"...

Along with Irma Bunt.

[AgentBentley]

I love Mr. White, but I think that at this time, it's too early to pronounce him dead. Or anybody else. We're still in the early stages of the Bond 23 production process.

[freemo]

And besides, BOND 23 may have nothing to do with Quantum.

God I hope so.

What about Quantum makes people want to see more of them? A bunch of boring sods the lot lot of them. Oooooh, Q pins. Yawn. They're more like something out of some crappy J.J. Abrams piece of crap than sinister villains in a hit James Bond movie.

[Quantumofsolace007]

And besides, BOND 23 may have nothing to do with Quantum.

God I hope so.

What about Quantum makes people want to see more of them? A bunch of boring sods the lot lot of them. Oooooh, Q pins. Yawn. They're more like something out of some crappy J.J. Abrams piece of crap than sinister villains in a hit James Bond movie.

they are intweresting because they are different. I found Greene and White and Le chiffe perfectly terrorfying because unlike the Jaws's or Stromburg's Quantum could exsist which to me scares me more then anything.

[General G.]

Hmmm. So Mr. White could be "The One That Got Away"...

Along with Irma Bunt.

Ah, yes. Her baggy, swollen sails temporarily fogged my memory.

[RufusCobb]

I truly believe the script has progressed to such a place where Mr. White's identity has been revealed to Bond as merely an alias, but that his real name is yet to be discovered by our hero. Obviously the script is being constructed in strict chronological order from title to conclusion, and the ever-vigilant IMDB is on the case reporting the story’s progress in near real time.

Jesper will be showing up on IMDB soon enough again, this time alongside his new character name, which I’m betting is probably Risico Brown.

Risico Brown?
Mr. White?
Dominic Greene?

Who is Bond up against, Spectrum?

(Captain Scarlett reference for those who don't know.)

[The Shark]

Risico is perhaps, most likely the lamest first name I've ever heard.

[bondrules]

Maybe Oprah is the head Quantum? that would be really scary.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Maybe Oprah is the head Quantum? that would be really scary.

well at least then everyone gets a car.

[Vauxhall]

Risico is perhaps, most likely the lamest first name I've ever heard.

Change it to Re-Psycho. Much better.

[The Shark]

Risico is perhaps, most likely the lamest first name I've ever heard.

Change it to Re-Psycho. Much better.

Re-Cycle or Die: The Return Of Dominic Greene...

[Harmsway]

It's possible Mr. White (and Quantum in general) won't be back. I hope it's not their final appearance, though, since they've both been very underused so far.

[00Twelve]

It's possible Mr. White (and Quantum in general) won't be back. I hope it's not their final appearance, though, since they've both been very underused so far.

Agreed.

[Quantumofsolace007]

It's possible Mr. White (and Quantum in general) won't be back. I hope it's not their final appearance, though, since they've both been very underused so far.

Agreed.

Which is why i hope they Are coming back.

[Captain Tightpants]

the real problem there is Quantum of Solace is not from russia with love. We don't know a lot about Quantum and we need another film to discuss them and then we can move along with a goldfinger type film(with Shatterhand being the perfect title for Dr Gutham Von Shatterhand being the villian)

Huh?

I'd argue that we know more about Quantum than we did about SPECTRE at the end of FRWL. All we knew about SPECTRE was that they were criminals who had a rank system based on numbers, and that they recruited people from intelligence agencies. What we know about Quantum is a fairly detailed look at their interests worldwide: -- We know they are made up of former politicians and intelligence operatives who have moved into the business sector.
- We know that they are powerful enough to influence and manipulate foreign policies of various governments
- We know that they are an apolitical organisation and that they exist to make money (though for what purpose remains to be seen)
- We know that they have contacts within various intelligence and government agencies
- We know that so discreet a way that many of their own operatives do not actually know who they work for.
Compare that to SPECTRE; we didn't actually learn much about them until TB. That's what the whole Kevin McClory fiasco was about: with McClory's help, Ian Fleming invented SPECTRE. And that's why McClory re-made TB as NSNA and why SPECTRE did not appear in TSWLM as originally inteded: because McClory owned the intellectual property rights to SPECTRE.

And if you suggest "Shatterhand" as a title once more, I swear to your God that I am going to reach through the phone lines and slap you so hard that you fall off the internet.

[Quantumofsolace007]

the real problem there is Quantum of Solace is not from russia with love. We don't know a lot about Quantum and we need another film to discuss them and then we can move along with a goldfinger type film(with Shatterhand being the perfect title for Dr Gutham Von Shatterhand being the villian)

Huh?

I'd argue that we know more about Quantum than we did about SPECTRE at the end of FRWL. All we knew about SPECTRE was that they were criminals who had a rank system based on numbers, and that they recruited people from intelligence agencies. What we know about Quantum is a fairly detailed look at their interests worldwide: -- We know they are made up of former politicians and intelligence operatives who have moved into the business sector.
- We know that they are powerful enough to influence and manipulate foreign policies of various governments
- We know that they are an apolitical organisation and that they exist to make money (though for what purpose remains to be seen)
- We know that they have contacts within various intelligence and government agencies
- We know that so discreet a way that many of their own operatives do not actually know who they work for.
Compare that to SPECTRE; we didn't actually learn much about them until TB. That's what the whole Kevin McClory fiasco was about: with McClory's help, Ian Fleming invented SPECTRE. And that's why McClory re-made TB as NSNA and why SPECTRE did not appear in TSWLM as originally inteded: because McClory owned the intellectual property rights to SPECTRE.

And if you suggest "Shatterhand" as a title once more, I swear to your God that I am going to reach through the phone lines and slap you so hard that you fall off the internet.

We know very little though. We don't know where Greene and the others fall in terms of Quantum's managment. We have no idea what Mr. White is all about. and We didn't know Spectre's goals really Re watch Dr. No then tell me we didn't know about spectre till thunderball.

Oh and for your extremly rude comment...
Shatterhand should be the name of bond 24.

Come and get me.

[DAN LIGHTER]

I do hope we have seen the last of Mr White. CR and QOS was fine but is he really a strong enough character to be in a third? I dont think so.