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[Zorin Industries]

Muse: 'we'd probably say yes' to recording a James Bond song

'Certainly some of our music fits with the James Bond vibe...'

Muse suggest they would be interested in performing the title track for BOND 23....

http://news.bbc.co.u...ent/8257767.stm

And this is what Muse suggest was as near to that Bond sound from their previous work (personally I think Queen might want their song back...oh, imagine that - Freddie Mercury doing a Bond song?!)



And so it begins...

[marktmurphy]

Yeah I think it would be great fun: it's far from the first time their name has been said in the same sentence as Bond either.

I can imagine they might go with a female, possibly less rocky song next time though, as the last two have been superficially similar and another male-lead rock song might not be something they're after. It'd be nice to get the slight camp edge that Muse offer back in there, though.

[JLaidlaw]

In fairness, like the six or seven artists who had similar articles for Quantum of Solace, it's probably just that they (or just their drummer, it would seem) have been asked directly in an interview, and that's the only polite answer. It's unlikely they are chasing EON for a contract. We'll see a lot more of that sort of thing in the coming months as every major artist is asked if they'll do Bond. I confidently predict similar articles connecting Coldplay, Take That, Duffy, The Killers and Susan Boyle.

But then a Muse song would not be bad for Bond; USoE isn't right for it, but there are plenty of songs from their back catlogue I could easily see as a Bond song, Shrinking Universe is a nice Brosnan era type song, Supermassive Black Hole and Undisclosed Desires fit with the Craig era. Maybe I'm looking for things too similar to what's gone before, it'd be nice to see Muse bring a unique flavour- a powerful guitar epic like their early work such as Time is Running Out or Plug in Baby could work, or maybe in their latest style of electronica- they are the band that's known for doing new things with each album, they could do something completely new. We could do a lot worse. In fact, I've talked myself round- they'd be my choice.

As for any given song not being 'that Bond sound'- unless someone can find a valid musical connection between everything From Russia With Love and Another Way to Die, I refuse to believe that such a thing exists.

[Zorin Industries]

I sort of agree with the last statement. Though there is a Bond sound. But there are others too. So one "Bond sound" could be bombastic brass and rich violins, but another could be urgent synths and soaring electronica whilst another is Autumnal pianos.

I hate that phrase "Bondian" and despair when folk say, "oh they should sing a Bond tune as such and such from their second album sounded Bondian".....(!).

[Trident]

Don't know really. To me they always sound a bit like Radiohead, no matter how far they evolved since 94, no matter how many risks they've taken with each musical adventure. The Radiohead of 'The Bends' that is. Which is entirely ok as I would also like a Bond song by Radiohead. Only, I would now prefer a song by the current (well, relatively current) Radiohead, not by an alternate version that has taken a different route after 'OK Computer'.

But then again I feel it's a safe bet that, had Muse but the chance, they'd manage to present something surprising.


EDIT: On sober reflection, while I probably can live easily with a Muse title song, I'd still rather have one by Dredg.

[Quantumofsolace007]

if it's like this i wouldn't mind.


Interesting though I woul;d of sworn the next ridiculous rumour would be bond girl. But meh at least we have a bond 23 rumour news bit etc....

though If the song u suggested is what gets them the gig why not just go for queen at that point and either bring in a seperate singer for a Brian May written tune or bring in Paul Rodgers.

[Loomis]

I sort of agree with the last statement. Though there is a Bond sound. But there are others too. So one "Bond sound" could be bombastic brass and rich violins, but another could be urgent synths and soaring electronica whilst another is Autumnal pianos.

I hate that phrase "Bondian" and despair when folk say, "oh they should sing a Bond tune as such and such from their second album sounded Bondian".....(!).

Well, "sounding Bondian" means sounding big and brassy and dramatic. Which does not necessarily mean sounding like a Shirley Bassey track. And neither does it stipulate any particular instruments or genre or music. But name me a single opening credits Bond song that isn't big, brash and full of soaring drama. Name me a single shrinking violet of an opening credits Bond song.

[Zorin Industries]

I sort of agree with the last statement. Though there is a Bond sound. But there are others too. So one "Bond sound" could be bombastic brass and rich violins, but another could be urgent synths and soaring electronica whilst another is Autumnal pianos.

I hate that phrase "Bondian" and despair when folk say, "oh they should sing a Bond tune as such and such from their second album sounded Bondian".....(!).

Well, "sounding Bondian" means sounding big and brassy and dramatic. Which does not necessarily mean sounding like a Shirley Bassey track. And neither does it stipulate any particular instruments or genre or music. But name me a single opening credits Bond song that isn't big, brash and full of soaring drama. Name me a single shrinking violet of an opening credits Bond song.

NOBODY DOES IT BETTER.

FOR YOUR EYES ONLY

MOONRAKER

ALL TIME HIGH

[Garth007]

I wouldn't mind having Muse do a tune. that would be great, i love Map of Problematiqe. check the song out.

Edited by Garth007, 16 September 2009 - 12:29 PM.

[Quantumofsolace007]

I sort of agree with the last statement. Though there is a Bond sound. But there are others too. So one "Bond sound" could be bombastic brass and rich violins, but another could be urgent synths and soaring electronica whilst another is Autumnal pianos.

I hate that phrase "Bondian" and despair when folk say, "oh they should sing a Bond tune as such and such from their second album sounded Bondian".....(!).

Well, "sounding Bondian" means sounding big and brassy and dramatic. Which does not necessarily mean sounding like a Shirley Bassey track. And neither does it stipulate any particular instruments or genre or music. But name me a single opening credits Bond song that isn't big, brash and full of soaring drama. Name me a single shrinking violet of an opening credits Bond song.

I'm sorry The living daylights a view to a kill You know my name and Another way to die are brassy and big and dramatic?

to me they sound look great rock tunes (and great bond themes)



I agree with Zorin in a sense what sounds bondian is really up to the producers to decide not us.

Lets use 2 differnt examples

Die another Day an annoying song by anyone's standards to me it sounds complelty Un bondian and yet the producers signed off on it! What were the courting Madonna's then husband Guy ritchie to direct a bond film ? I mean Jeez there is nothing logical about their choice.


Now lets talk about a future artist using my fave band as the example. I believe i'm the only person on this or any other james bond board on the internet who actually wants and hopes for Yes to do the bond theme. I admit that. you all think they are over the hill and at worst sound like music for a bad bond video game. but say the impossible happens and my dream comes true. You all will probably hear the track and split into 3 catagories those who geuninly loves it (like mysefl0 those who hate it and the rest. Now the those who hate it group will scream at the top of their lungs "it's not bondian where is the brass where is the ____ and the ___" (I honestly have no idea what the phrase "bondian sound" means and I honestly don't care if i like it it's bondian if i don't it's not )but accept it they will have to as EON saw it bondian enough to say yes lets use them and that song for bond 23.



So to sum up the Phrase "bondian sound" means nothing to me because what sounds bondian to me might be completly different to Zorn's Definiton who in turn agrees a bit with Mharkin but only on tuesdays who disagrees with Craig is 007 on......

I could go on but u get my point.

[marktmurphy]

I sort of agree with the last statement. Though there is a Bond sound. But there are others too. So one "Bond sound" could be bombastic brass and rich violins, but another could be urgent synths and soaring electronica whilst another is Autumnal pianos.

I hate that phrase "Bondian" and despair when folk say, "oh they should sing a Bond tune as such and such from their second album sounded Bondian".....(!).

Well, "sounding Bondian" means sounding big and brassy and dramatic. Which does not necessarily mean sounding like a Shirley Bassey track. And neither does it stipulate any particular instruments or genre or music. But name me a single opening credits Bond song that isn't big, brash and full of soaring drama. Name me a single shrinking violet of an opening credits Bond song.

You Only Live Twice is a pretty sweet little tune. Obviously there are some strings in there which give it a bigger sound, though.

[Zorin Industries]

I sort of agree with the last statement. Though there is a Bond sound. But there are others too. So one "Bond sound" could be bombastic brass and rich violins, but another could be urgent synths and soaring electronica whilst another is Autumnal pianos.

I hate that phrase "Bondian" and despair when folk say, "oh they should sing a Bond tune as such and such from their second album sounded Bondian".....(!).

Well, "sounding Bondian" means sounding big and brassy and dramatic. Which does not necessarily mean sounding like a Shirley Bassey track. And neither does it stipulate any particular instruments or genre or music. But name me a single opening credits Bond song that isn't big, brash and full of soaring drama. Name me a single shrinking violet of an opening credits Bond song.

I'm sorry The living daylights a view to a kill You know my name and Another way to die are brassy and big and dramatic?

to me they sound look great rock tunes (and great bond themes)



I agree with Zorin in a sense what sounds bondian is really up to the producers to decide not us.

Lets use 2 differnt examples

Die another Day an annoying song by anyone's standards to me it sounds complelty Un bondian and yet the producers signed off on it! What were the courting Madonna's then husband Guy ritchie to direct a bond film ? I mean Jeez there is nothing logical about their choice.

If you don't like that track, maybe. It works in the film and works on her album (where it fits in better than most Bond tracks included on the artists own current albums at the time - now there's a question...."who did include their Bond track on their own albums - and not a compilation / Best Of issue?").

Eon were not courting Madonna to get to Guy Ritchie (who at the time hadn't actually directed a decent film anyway - if you believe the rumours...which I never do, obviously). And the DIE ANOTHER DAY track was not strictly at in-house Eon decision.

And who courts Madonna to get to someone else?! Since when was she the stepping stone...? (!)

[Loomis]

I sort of agree with the last statement. Though there is a Bond sound. But there are others too. So one "Bond sound" could be bombastic brass and rich violins, but another could be urgent synths and soaring electronica whilst another is Autumnal pianos.

I hate that phrase "Bondian" and despair when folk say, "oh they should sing a Bond tune as such and such from their second album sounded Bondian".....(!).

Well, "sounding Bondian" means sounding big and brassy and dramatic. Which does not necessarily mean sounding like a Shirley Bassey track. And neither does it stipulate any particular instruments or genre or music. But name me a single opening credits Bond song that isn't big, brash and full of soaring drama. Name me a single shrinking violet of an opening credits Bond song.

NOBODY DOES IT BETTER.

FOR YOUR EYES ONLY

MOONRAKER

ALL TIME HIGH

None of those songs is a shrinking violet. Yes, they're ballads as opposed to "rockers", but they're still big, brash and full of soaring drama. They're bold and brassy and campy. And, yes, I'm afraid to say that they're "Bondian".

[Zorin Industries]

I sort of agree with the last statement. Though there is a Bond sound. But there are others too. So one "Bond sound" could be bombastic brass and rich violins, but another could be urgent synths and soaring electronica whilst another is Autumnal pianos.

I hate that phrase "Bondian" and despair when folk say, "oh they should sing a Bond tune as such and such from their second album sounded Bondian".....(!).

Well, "sounding Bondian" means sounding big and brassy and dramatic. Which does not necessarily mean sounding like a Shirley Bassey track. And neither does it stipulate any particular instruments or genre or music. But name me a single opening credits Bond song that isn't big, brash and full of soaring drama. Name me a single shrinking violet of an opening credits Bond song.

NOBODY DOES IT BETTER.

FOR YOUR EYES ONLY

MOONRAKER

ALL TIME HIGH

None of those songs is a shrinking violet. Yes, they're ballads as opposed to "rockers", but they're still big, brash and full of soaring drama. They're bold and brassy and campy. And, yes, I'm afraid to say that they're "Bondian".

In hindsight maybe. But not at the time. ALL TIME HIGH was almost a folk balled at the time, and certainly charted accordingly.

I know what you mean about big and dramatic though. Not trying to argue. Just trying to suggest that a lot of Bond songs are not "Bondian" and are only perceived as such in hindsight.

[Loomis]

I'm sorry The living daylights a view to a kill You know my name and Another way to die are brassy and big and dramatic?

Yes, they are. Very much so. By the way, when I use the word "brassy" I'm not necessarily talking about using brass instruments - I'm using it more in the sense of "shamelessly bold" or "tastelessly showy or loud" (to cite a coupla dictionary definitions I've just looked at). Similarly, when I use the word "campy", I mean "overly theatrical" rather than "gay".

[Quantumofsolace007]

I'm sorry The living daylights a view to a kill You know my name and Another way to die are brassy and big and dramatic?

Yes, they are. Very much so. By the way, when I use the word "brassy" I'm not necessarily talking about using brass instruments - I'm using it more in the sense of "shamelessly bold" or "tastelessly showy or loud" (to cite a coupla dictionary definitions I've just looked at). Similarly, when I use the word "campy", I mean "overly theatrical" rather than "gay".

Ok and since we are defining things when i say "the best bond ever" I'm refering to Daniel Craig . hmm oh and after my 9th listen to the muse song i posted honestly i can say they are a poplar choice among fans i can get behind. Killers i only know of their first album stuff and i love their first album stuff so if they get it i'd be fine with that.

I'm just happy as i finnaly found 2 mainstream choices i can back. HOOORAY

[dee-bee-five]

I'm sorry The living daylights a view to a kill You know my name and Another way to die are brassy and big and dramatic?

Yes, they are. Very much so. By the way, when I use the word "brassy" I'm not necessarily talking about using brass instruments - I'm using it more in the sense of "shamelessly bold" or "tastelessly showy or loud" (to cite a coupla dictionary definitions I've just looked at). Similarly, when I use the word "campy", I mean "overly theatrical" rather than "gay".

Mind you, it's hard not to think of camp - in its gayest sense - when you talk of Shirley Brassy...

I'll get me coat...

[Zorin Industries]

To be fair, any band touting their names about now will probably not get a look in and THE KILLERS and MUSE are maybe there in ANOTHER WAY TO DIE and YOU KNOW MY NAME so wouldn't necessarily be that progressive to the Bond sound that is progressing at the moment and leaving all the die-hard fans WAY behind.

I'm sorry The living daylights a view to a kill You know my name and Another way to die are brassy and big and dramatic?

Yes, they are. Very much so. By the way, when I use the word "brassy" I'm not necessarily talking about using brass instruments - I'm using it more in the sense of "shamelessly bold" or "tastelessly showy or loud" (to cite a coupla dictionary definitions I've just looked at). Similarly, when I use the word "campy", I mean "overly theatrical" rather than "gay".

Mind you, it's hard not to think of camp - in its gayest sense - when you talk of Shirley Brassy...

I'll get me coat...

Is it a mock-leopard print knee-length effort with a faint smell of pubs about it...?

[dee-bee-five]

Die another Day an annoying song by anyone's standards

We don't all have the same standards. It doesn't annoy me. I quite like it.

[Zorin Industries]

Die another Day an annoying song by anyone's standards

We don't all have the same standards. It doesn't annoy me. I quite like it.

So do I. It works for the film and was changing the ante for Bond films a whole film before Daniel Craig did... in fact the first half of DIE ANOTHER DAY is a Craig test-run, if you ask me...

[Trident]

Die another Day an annoying song by anyone's standards

We don't all have the same standards. It doesn't annoy me. I quite like it.

So do I. It works for the film and was changing the ante for Bond films a whole film before Daniel Craig did... in fact the first half of DIE ANOTHER DAY is a Craig test-run, if you ask me...

Sorry, but I can't agree there. While DAD's (the film's) first half might be indeed be a test run for Craig (nice idea!) and while I actually liked the lyrics (avoid the cliché, what a lovely way of rhyming on day) I feel sure that song itself wasn't a step in the advancement of the 'Bond sound' (for lack of a better term, fill the label with your own ideas of what exactly that is).

It may be that the song DAD is a mutation in the evolution of the Bond sound (that's what you get sooner or later when you experiment with genes) and it also may be that in a far away future there will come a day when pieces of DAD's DNA reemerge from the grave. But as a song I find the dancefloor genes of DAD much too self-referential to leave its traces in the genepool of future title songs. The mutation is sterile. Ok, it may fit the film there but I find little substance that would support ground breaking potential in both, film and song.

[PPK_19]

Muse would be great, but i think its time we had a (solo) female sing a Bond song. If you don't count Madonna (and i don't think many people do, despite the song being catchy it definitely wasn't Bondian enough) we haven't had a good female title singer since Goldeneye 14 years ago!
I am championing Duffy or Winehouse, if the latter gets her act together. Though im perfectly happy for Muse to 'have a go', as they put it.

Just remembered Tomorrow Never Dies' theme song is rather good...either way you get my drift.

Edited by PPK_19, 16 September 2009 - 01:49 PM.

[Quantumofsolace007]

here is an honest question will this be a front page bond 23 story or not?

[Safari Suit]

It might, but I don't really think it has to. It's just some guys saying they would like to sing the song for a movie which will come out sometime.

[Zorin Industries]

here is an honest question will this be a front page bond 23 story or not?

Financial crisis.... swine flu....global warming.... Muse wouldn't mind singing a Bond song...

Let me think...

[Quantumofsolace007]

here is an honest question will this be a front page bond 23 story or not?

Financial crisis.... swine flu....global warming.... Muse wouldn't mind singing a Bond song...

Let me think...

how is global warming Finacial Crisis and Swine ful big bond stories? Unless all 3 are parts of the first draft by purvis and wade I fail to see why any of thos would be on the main page.


I can see why u got confused i meant the front page of THIS site. I assumed everyone would logically see what i'm talking about i see now that somepoeple need to be told explicitly what is meant.

[Zorin Industries]

here is an honest question will this be a front page bond 23 story or not?

Financial crisis.... swine flu....global warming.... Muse wouldn't mind singing a Bond song...

Let me think...

how is global warming Finacial Crisis and Swine ful big bond stories? Unless all 3 are parts of the first draft by purvis and wade I fail to see why any of thos would be on the main page.


I can see why u got confused i meant the front page of THIS site. I assumed everyone would logically see what i'm talking about i see now that somepoeple need to be told explicitly what is meant.

Yes. There appears to be some confusion. I find using the phrase "home page" instead of "front page" might deter any confusion in times to come.

[Quantumofsolace007]

here is an honest question will this be a front page bond 23 story or not?

Financial crisis.... swine flu....global warming.... Muse wouldn't mind singing a Bond song...

Let me think...

how is global warming Finacial Crisis and Swine ful big bond stories? Unless all 3 are parts of the first draft by purvis and wade I fail to see why any of thos would be on the main page.


I can see why u got confused i meant the front page of THIS site. I assumed everyone would logically see what i'm talking about i see now that somepoeple need to be told explicitly what is meant.

Yes. There appears to be some confusion. I find using the phrase "home page" instead of "front page" might deter any confusion in times to come.

The question still stands is this news newsy enough to be on Commanderbond.net's front page in the bond 23 section or not?

Personnaly i'm just glad we have something new to talk about.

[Zorin Industries]

Not sure it is that worth discussing.

I only posted it up as it was a curious story, but I don't hold much faith in it.

And people are assuming that BOND 23 will either need a title tune or indeed have a title sequence....(?!).

[Quantumofsolace007]

Not sure it is that worth discussing.

I only posted it up as it was a curious story, but I don't hold much faith in it.

And people are assuming that BOND 23 will either need a title tune or indeed have a title sequence....(?!).

i'm also assuming that bond 23 will have action sequences.... should i not?