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John Cleese NEEDS to be in the ned Bond film


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#1 WhiteKnight2000

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 10:33 PM

John Cleese NEEDS to be in the next Bond film. His appearance was sorely missed in the last two films. Also this needs to be Bonds next car. Let's make these films great again.

#2 DamnCoffee

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 10:38 PM

His appearance was sorely missed in the last two films.


He really wasn't.

John Cleese is a good actor in his own right, but his performance in The World is not Enough was an embarrassment. His performance in Die Another Day was ok, but nothing to special. He's probably one of the only british actors that doesn't fit in a Bond film.

Plus, the car sucks. Sorry. B)

#3 Vauxhall

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 11:12 PM

John Cleese NEEDS to be in the next Bond film.

He does not.

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 11:21 PM

John Cleese NEEDS to be in the next Bond film. His appearance was sorely missed in the last two films. Also this needs to be Bonds next car. Let's make these films great again.


No, he should never have been in a Bond film. Great comedic actor but completely wrong for Bond.

Also, that car looks terrible. Completely generic sports car and un-British.

Look up the Mabach Exelero - that looks far Bondian.

Edited by The Shark, 26 July 2009 - 11:26 PM.


#5 Pierce - Daniel

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 11:26 PM

Cleese is the best thing in DAD
He's appearance in TWINE is slightly odd but does encourage that brilliant scene between Bond and Q. "Your not thinking of retiring anytime soon, are you?"
Ace.

But I like Cleese, if he is back as Q, I would have no gripes. He does after all have a contract starting with TWINE for 3 films, meaning EON have 1 more film at hand.

#6 Bucky

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 11:56 PM

now that is a car that bond would wish he could make invisible.

#7 jaguar007

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 12:08 AM

I would much rather have the Q role recast. Cleese does not fit with the tone of the Craig films (he was too much of a Llewlyn parody).

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 12:32 AM

The Q character full stop doesn't need to be in the next film, let alone John Cleese. I have not missed either. And if the character does return - new series, new direction.

#9 AgentBentley

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 12:57 AM

Don't misunderstand me, I love John Cleese as a comedian and actor, but there is no place in the new Bond films for him. Let's not return to the past, but find new characters and new actors if old characters are brought back.

#10 DaveBond21

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 12:58 AM

And if the character does return - new series, new direction.


Yes, this is the way to go. I don't see Q as a major character but I see him as a needed character.

#11 Cruiserweight

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 08:04 AM

No

#12 WhiteKnight2000

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 09:41 PM

Look up the Mabach Exelero - that looks far Bondian.



I'm sorry but that's hideous.

My car is the Lotus Esprit. Wake up guys. Already confirmed Bondian.

Edited by WhiteKnight2000, 27 July 2009 - 09:43 PM.


#13 tdalton

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 10:05 PM

His appearance was sorely missed in the last two films.


He really wasn't.


Agreed. I didn't miss Cleese or Q at all in the last two films. Cleese is a good actor who can be quite funny with the right material, but I didn't particularly care for his take on Q at all.

#14 WhiteKnight2000

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 10:12 PM

I missed Bond in the last two films. When's he coming back again I wonder.

#15 JimmyBond

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 10:49 PM

Hey welcome back WhiteKnight, been a while hasnt it.

You still havent uploaded the TND deleted scenes onto youtube like you said you would.

#16 Jose

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 05:28 AM

I missed Bond in the last two films. When's he coming back again I wonder.

Didn't you hear him at the end of CR? "The name's Bond, James Bond."
Or at the end of Qos? "I never left."

B)

Cleese is a thing of the past as far as the Bond films are concerned.

"I'm not dwelling on the past, I don't think you should either." :tdown: Last one.

I'd like to see the character of Q return at some point (not necessarily for Bond 23 but if it happens, it happens), but only if it's in a way that works with the Craig era and works to help the film rather than just throwing him into the mix for the hell of it. Maybe as "Major Boothroyd"?

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 07:27 AM

I really don't want Q. It just doesn't fit with Craig's Bond. He needs "the armourer". I've stated it several times. The guy in Dr. No and From Russia with Love. That's the guy they need. Realistic and down to earth.

And since I'm on the subject, I don't really want Moneypenny either. Still way too tired of the forced scenes... "gotta have a scene with Moneypenny". You know if they bring her in, I hope her role is more in line with Villiers. It was a shame he wasn't in Quantum. It's easy continuation like that that bugs me about movie franchises sometimes. Bet they couldn't figure out how to place him because he was largely unnecessary given the huge role that Tanner played.

#18 Aris007

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 10:17 AM

I want Q back, but I don't want hinm to be portrayed by Cleese! He's not appropriate for the role! He seems like the stupid guy and doesn't look anything like a scientist! No not good enough!

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 10:40 AM

I also want Q back, but probably not played by Cleese.

#20 Mr.Stamper

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 01:29 PM

I would like to see Cleese return.

#21 AMC Hornet

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 02:57 PM

It would be nice to see John Cleese again, if his Q character fit the style of the next film.

As for that car, Aston Martins are conspicuous - and expensive - enough. Although it would be okay if Bond stole it from a villain during an escape - then he could wreck it too.

#22 DAN LIGHTER

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:05 PM

I don’t think he has a place in Craig’s era as Bond. Besides he was ok in what he did but I don’t want to see him again. Funnier things have happened though and I think it’s an interesting discussion. If any of the characters are to make a return they need to be new unknown actors. New Moneypenny not Samantha Bond etc etc

But I have faith in EON and Craig. I think he has such a good relationship with them that they can’t do anything that won’t fit with his Bond. They are very much on the same wavelength and I have faith they won’t bring characters in that just don’t fit or work.

I don’t like the look of the car. It looks like a blue box. I thought Lotus went from Bond Films with Moore? I want to look at Bonds can and want one. I look at that car and I don’t want it.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 05:59 PM

Cleese is the best thing in DAD [...]

In the land of the blind, a one-eyed man is king B)

I've always liked Q (wouldn't mind seeing him return, but in a way that fits properly into the current Bond style and not as a nerdy buffoon), and I'm also a fan of Cleese. But the general direction the Q character was moving towards went a bit too much into JarJar Binks territory, and I fear that it would happen again.

#24 sthgilyadgnivileht

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 06:15 PM

Sorry but as good as Cleese is (outside of Bond), he is not my idea of making things great again.
Anyone know who was the most responsible for his casting in TWINE?

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 07:18 PM

John Cleese NEEDS to be in the next Bond film.


With respect, no he doesn't! I think the new Craig era is well past the campish quartermaster scenes we saw in The World Is Not Enough and Die Another Day. By all means bring Q back, but for God's sake give him some credibility and seriousness!

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 07:26 PM

Maybe John Cleese needs to be in the next Bond film, but the Bond films don't need John Cleese.

#27 Colossus

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 08:13 PM

Cleese can come back, the Craig era is not that different from the Brosnan one as one thinks.

#28 Jim

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 08:16 PM

He was good in Mary Shelley's Frankenstein - the only good thing in it - playing straight, against type. If he doesn't play "John Cleese" and isn't Q, I would welcome him giving a performance like that.

Otherwise - nah, it'd be awful.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 09:26 PM

Cleese can come back, the Craig era is not that different from the Brosnan one as one thinks.


Really? I think they're both very different from each other, but I still love them both. I enjoy Brosnan's light-hearted approach, and enjoy Craig's gritty approach. I still don't think Cleese would be right for a Casino Royale/Quantum Of Solace-type movie, unless the next Bond film goes a completely different way to the last two.

#30 B. Brown

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 12:07 AM

John Cleese NEEDS to be in the next Bond film. His appearance was sorely missed in the last two films. Also this needs to be Bonds next car. Let's make these films great again.



I disagree with both points.

Cleese was just a temporary substitute for Desmond Llewelyn, it seemed. I don't think he could've matched Llewelyn's popularity. Personally, I didn't miss him, or the character of Q in the last couple of films.

As for that car ... Sure, that'd work well. Perhaps Vin Diesel could take Craig's place in the next film, too.