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[Royal Dalton]

Certain elements from it made their way into the second and third Brosnan films, but not that much. Which is a shame, because it had a far more inventive storyline than either of those two films.

But the point is, that script was dropped and didn't become Bond 17. And they'd gone a lot further down the road with it than this one seems to have gone.

I'll bet you a virtual quid the same thing will happen with Bond 23 and they'll drop whatever Morgan and Purvis and Wade had come up with and start from scratch when this hiatus comes to an end.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Maybe Maybe not there was never a Director Attached to the double billed script (i love makeing bad puns) but seriously we have a director sort of in place. and Morgan ebing out was rumored back in what April May so this isn't exactly news we don't know what Purvis and Wade are doing (if they are doing anything) right now. Time will tell.) We'll see what happens in the next few weeks/months we should get some sort of closure on MGM before american thanksgiving so who knows Perhaps Eon's Christmas preasent for all of use is announcing Bond 23 is coming and Mendes will direct and the due date is __/__/__.

[DaveBond21]

Maybe Maybe not there was never a Director Attached to the double billed script (i love makeing bad puns) but seriously we have a director sort of in place. and Morgan ebing out was rumored back in what April May so this isn't exactly news we don't know what Purvis and Wade are doing (if they are doing anything) right now. Time will tell.) We'll see what happens in the next few weeks/months we should get some sort of closure on MGM before american thanksgiving so who knows Perhaps Eon's Christmas preasent for all of use is announcing Bond 23 is coming and Mendes will direct and the due date is __/__/__.

Maybe there will be a Bond movie and maybe there won't we don't know what has happened with the script we don't know what Pervy and Wane are doing we don't know if there will be a Bond movie in 2011 or maybe 2012 or maybe 2019 we don't know if the script has been written if the script has already been written then that could be good if it hasn't been written then could be bad Bond movies sometimes have good scripts and sometimes have bad scripts maybe Morgan is still involved maybe not involved we need to see what will happen I don't know what will happen who will direct I don't know do you know? I don't know maybe someone knows but maybe no-one knows but I think the release date will be _/_/_ but maybe not and if it is then that will be good but if not then not so good.

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[Zorin Industries]

This is all a lot of hot air and misplaced notions of what is going on. Peter Morgan no doubt created more than an "outline".

The script has no doubt had at least one "first draft".

What is reported on the script process is far removed from the actual development of it. The timeline of writing the script has no bearing on the scant and very delayed proclamations about its progress.

Another writer/s will no doubt be involved (even now) but you may hear about that or you may not.

[Napoleon Solo]

This is all a lot of hot air and misplaced notions of what is going on. Peter Morgan no doubt created more than an "outline".

If so, the hot air, in this case, was created by Peter Morgan in an interview he gave.

[Zorin Industries]

This is all a lot of hot air and misplaced notions of what is going on. Peter Morgan no doubt created more than an "outline".

If so, the hot air, in this case, was created by Peter Morgan in an interview he gave.

Well the dates of all the script movements are all over the place. Writers come, writers go. What they write inbetween depends on what they did when they came and their telling of it depends on how they went. I would imagine that the ilk of Peter Morgan did not just write an "outline".

[Napoleon Solo]

This is all a lot of hot air and misplaced notions of what is going on. Peter Morgan no doubt created more than an "outline".

If so, the hot air, in this case, was created by Peter Morgan in an interview he gave.

Well the dates of all the script movements are all over the place. Writers come, writers go. What they write inbetween depends on what they did when they came and their telling of it depends on how they went. I would imagine that the ilk of Peter Morgan did not just write an "outline".

Outline was the word Morgan used in the interview. He even said he never completed the outline. Now, perhaps, he was inartful in his phrasing, perhaps meaning "treatment" instead of "outline."

UPDATE: Morgan has given another interview, where he says he only wrote a "treatment" but never a script:

http://blogs.indiewi...4/peter_morgan/

Edited by Napoleon Solo, 25 October 2010 - 02:40 PM.

[Quantumofsolace007]

which means Purvis and wade could have taken Morgan's treatment and turned it into a full blown sc ript by now. it's honestly not impossible. and then a 4th writer could be brought in to punch up the dialogue and there ya go bond 23's script is done and ready to be shot.

Like i said morgan's latest revelation is a lot more hopefull and untill we hear Purvis and wade haven['t move foward there is no reason to assume bond 23 isn't moving along in the script department under the radar of course.

[sthgilyadgnivileht]

UPDATE: Morgan has given another interview, where he says he only wrote a "treatment" but never a script:

http://blogs.indiewi...4/peter_morgan/

Interesting, thanks for that link.

[SecretAgentFan]

which means Purvis and wade could have taken Morgan's treatment and turned it into a full blown sc ript by now. it's honestly not impossible. and then a 4th writer could be brought in to punch up the dialogue and there ya go bond 23's script is done and ready to be shot.

Like i said morgan's latest revelation is a lot more hopefull and untill we hear Purvis and wade haven['t move foward there is no reason to assume bond 23 isn't moving along in the script department under the radar of course.

And, unfortunately, there is no reason either to assume BOND 23 is moving forward or that Purvis and Wade would actually turn Morgan´s treatment into a script or that EON wants them to or Sam Mendes would want them to...

If Morgan had written a full draft I would be more hopeful. But even then that wouldn´t mean that EON or Mendes would like to work with Morgan´s script. They could toss it out anyway.

So... the news are that there is no real news for us to get our hopes up.

[Quantumofsolace007]

which means Purvis and wade could have taken Morgan's treatment and turned it into a full blown sc ript by now. it's honestly not impossible. and then a 4th writer could be brought in to punch up the dialogue and there ya go bond 23's script is done and ready to be shot.

Like i said morgan's latest revelation is a lot more hopefull and untill we hear Purvis and wade haven['t move foward there is no reason to assume bond 23 isn't moving along in the script department under the radar of course.

And, unfortunately, there is no reason either to assume BOND 23 is moving forward or that Purvis and Wade would actually turn Morgan´s treatment into a script or that EON wants them to or Sam Mendes would want them to...

If Morgan had written a full draft I would be more hopeful. But even then that wouldn´t mean that EON or Mendes would like to work with Morgan´s script. They could toss it out anyway.

So... the news are that there is no real news for us to get our hopes up.

but I think in order to get a director like Mendes one must have story line the director would want to film..

I could be wrong but I think Morgan's outline peaked Mendes's interest and purvis and wade are currently writing a script based on Morgan's outline.

[zencat]

http://www.digitalsp...ks-realism.html

Wow. I find this shocking. Sounds to me like Morgan and Mendes really don't get (or even like) James Bond. What the is Eon doing?

[Royal Dalton]

What the is Eon doing?

I've been wondering that for years...

Morgan, who said that he only penned a treatment and not a full script for the Daniel Craig spy movie, admitted that he wasn't confident about seeing any of his work make it to the big screen.

"I suspect that if they start again then they'll start entirely again," he commented. "I think that there was momentum behind my idea for a moment and I suspect that moment has probably gone."

Told you.

[Quantumofsolace007]

how do u get that Mendes doesn't get bond from comments made by Morgan?



It is possible that Mogan;'s story was good but when eon saw what he was doing in script form the pulled the plug from morgan.


I will say this though Purvis and Wade might not be the best writers but I challenge you to find someone who knows and loves bond more.

[jaguar007]

It is entirely possible that EON was not happy with Morgan's treatment and that is why Menes was going to bring on another screenwriter. I mentioned it before, but if I'm not mistaken the news of Morgan being done with the project came before the news of Bond 23 being put on hold. Does anyone else remember if that is correct or not? I guess I could go through all the old posts and news, but that takes too much time.

I will say this though Purvis and Wade might not be the best writers but I challenge you to find someone who knows and loves bond more.

Well, I do know of this little known screenwriter floating around Hollywood. Fellow by the name of Cox.

[Quantumofsolace007]

no it was In april it was suggested that Mendes was confirmed and bringing a close friend Patick Marber on to re write the Morgan Purvis wade script treatment etc.


I also remeber people saying Morgan was the only good thing about the writing team...


Curious how things change.


Purvis and wade strength is that they know bond rather well. personally I think they should be paired with a better writer who also loves bond and can help out the process.

[Matt_13]

Alright, the whole "Bond isn't real enough" thing is definitely a bit much. Quantum of Solace is as far as I'd like to go on the realism end, and I've never been a fan of the "fantastic" Bonds. Still, it's an interesting set of comments. MI6 has more from the interview that shows that he does in fact care about the series, he just doesn't exactly "get it." I'm still confident that if he remains attached, Mendes will do a fine job. I sincerely hope they get a genuine script hammered out before they start filming. Last thing we need is another underdeveloped story and stale characters. I hope they can bring back some of the flair found in CR. Hell give the job to Feirstein, God knows he's had enough practice with the character lately.

[Quantumofsolace007]

As for bruce let me play bloodstone and Goldeneye then if i feel he has done good with Daniel Craig's bond in video game format then i'll go for him writing bond 23's script

[jaguar007]

As for bruce let me play bloodstone and Goldeneye then if i feel he has done good with Daniel Craig's bond in video game format then i'll go for him writing bond 23's script

Good, because I know EON is waiting for your thumbs up

[Quantumofsolace007]

I would be nervous about Fernstien as one person on this board said "Bruce never found an innuendo he didn't like"

[jaguar007]

I would be nervous about Fernstien as one person on this board said "Bruce never found an innuendo he didn't like"

He always was a cunning lin...never mind

[Napoleon Solo]

There has been a lot more speculation here than fact. Eon's original press release -- you remember, the one that said that Morgan would write Bond 23 in collaboration with Purvis and Wade -- was, at best, the tip of the iceburg. At worst, it was misleading, based on the comments Morgan made in the interview (he doesn't even mention Purvis and Wade).

We can only take take Morgan at his word, i.e. he wrote a treatment, not a script. Maybe Purvis and Wade did more work. Maybe they didn't. We *don't KNOW*. Based on Morgan's efforts, the writing efforts that took place BEFORE EON SUSPENDED WORK ON BOND 23 wasn't collaborative (i.e. Morgan working *together* with Purvis and Wade). Maybe Eon started two parallel script efforts (the late Howard Hawks was known to do such things).

Anybody on this board who claims to *know* should be viewed with a wary eye. If somebody actually *knew* what's going on, why would Eon allow them to post on a fan message board? Anything else posted on this message board is speculation.

[DaveBond21]

I would be nervous about Fernstien as one person on this board said "Bruce never found an innuendo he didn't like"

He always was a cunning lin...never mind

Jaguar, I just spurted my coffee all over my keyboard. Good job I'm leaving this week!

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[FLEMINGFAN]

Excellent points, Mr. Solo.
I think many of us fall into some 'feeding frenzy' when it comes to 007 news and try to read more into things than what they are. When it comes to releasing any information movie-makers are like politicians (no need to elaborate from there).

There has been a lot more speculation here than fact. Eon's original press release -- you remember, the one that said that Morgan would write Bond 23 in collaboration with Purvis and Wade -- was, at best, the tip of the iceburg. At worst, it was misleading, based on the comments Morgan made in the interview (he doesn't even mention Purvis and Wade).

We can only take take Morgan at his word, i.e. he wrote a treatment, not a script. Maybe Purvis and Wade did more work. Maybe they didn't. We *don't KNOW*. Based on Morgan's efforts, the writing efforts that took place BEFORE EON SUSPENDED WORK ON BOND 23 wasn't collaborative (i.e. Morgan working *together* with Purvis and Wade). Maybe Eon started two parallel script efforts (the late Howard Hawks was known to do such things).

Anybody on this board who claims to *know* should be viewed with a wary eye. If somebody actually *knew* what's going on, why would Eon allow them to post on a fan message board? Anything else posted on this message board is speculation.

[Zorin Industries]

which means Purvis and wade could have taken Morgan's treatment and turned it into a full blown sc ript by now. it's honestly not impossible. and then a 4th writer could be brought in to punch up the dialogue and there ya go bond 23's script is done and ready to be shot.

Like i said morgan's latest revelation is a lot more hopefull and untill we hear Purvis and wade haven['t move foward there is no reason to assume bond 23 isn't moving along in the script department under the radar of course.

Have you ever written a feature film script? Your enthusiasm is great but your take on how these things work is less so.

I could be wrong but I think Morgan's outline peaked Mendes's interest and purvis and wade are currently writing a script based on Morgan's outline.

Yes. You're wrong.

Can't you just wait until the named writer/s on the script side of Bond 23 are officially announced as there is so much going on behind the headlines here, as there always is on a Bond.

It is possible that Mogan;'s story was good but when eon saw what he was doing in script form the pulled the plug from morgan.

It is safe to say that you need to forget the name Peter Morgan was even connected to this or any Bond film as you are hanging your trilby on the wrong hook at every turn. Sam Mendes is potentially/maybe going to direct a Bond film based on Sam Mendes no doubt wanting to work on a big scale and challenging Bond film with Barbara Broccoli, Micheal Wilson and Daniel Craig. The script is superfluous to that initial interest in helming the project (as it is with most Bond films and their earmarked directors). Yes, Mendes will no doubt want a great script, but most directors do on any project.

As for bruce let me play bloodstone and Goldeneye then if i feel he has done good with Daniel Craig's bond in video game format then i'll go for him writing bond 23's script

How a writer creates a video game has no bearing on their work on a feature film screenplay, thank God.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Alright Well it just is upseting that a great tenure is gonna be cut short due to MGM being ridiculous.

Honestly I could care less about Morgan or even Mendes I want Daniel Craig to star as James Bond 007 in Bond 23, and I want the story to be strong and the director to do a good job. Outside of that I don't care as the names I would suggest for writing or directing are way to mundane and ridiculous that most of my suggestions have been laughed off this board before I even said a word.


Zorin Mharkin Captain tightpants you all tell me to relax when I fly off the handle at the slightest rumor. You also tell me to relax when I fear the worse and believe like Dalton Craig has only 2 bond films and that is all he is gonna do.


I hope MGM gets settled and Bond 23 comes out some day with Daniel Craig as the star and since watching Road to Perdition I can see Mendes being a good director for bond.

[Captain Tightpants]

Zorin Mharkin Captain tightpants you all tell me to relax when I fly off the handle at the slightest rumor. You also tell me to relax when I fear the worse and believe like Dalton Craig has only 2 bond films and that is all he is gonna do.

Well ... yeah. Haven't you noticed how you seem to expend a hell of a lot of energy getting so worked up over it all? Your inane theories about how Peter Morgan completed a script when he said he didn't (or whatever else you come up with) aren't going to make the film hapen any faster. Worse, you seem to be attempting to convince yourself of it, as if you can post something and it will happen if you believe in it hard enough. Seriously, stop worrying about the Bond franchise. Just don't think about it for a day; go off and do something else instead. You'll feel better for it.

[JimmyBond]

How a writer creates a video game has no bearing on their work on a feature film screenplay, thank God.

I would love Fierstien to have a stab at Bond 23. I feel he crackles at the dialogue and would add humor the Craig's films that is greatly needed. But he wouldn't make it silly like P&W have a tendancy to do.

[DamnCoffee]

Zorin Mharkin Captain tightpants you all tell me to relax when I fly off the handle at the slightest rumor. You also tell me to relax when I fear the worse and believe like Dalton Craig has only 2 bond films and that is all he is gonna do.

I wish you'd shut up.

Craig isn't going anywhere.

[SecretAgentFan]

Zorin Mharkin Captain tightpants you all tell me to relax when I fly off the handle at the slightest rumor. You also tell me to relax when I fear the worse and believe like Dalton Craig has only 2 bond films and that is all he is gonna do.

I wish you'd shut up.

Craig isn't going anywhere.

Quantum just likes to torture himself. And us, sometimes, with the endless possibilities BOND 23 can turn out.