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[SecretAgentFan]

Neil Purvis and Robert Wade are writing the script with Peter Morgan. The latter is not - as Paul Haggis was not - some mythical "script doctor" who comes in and cleans up the project at the end. And as the film will not emerge for a while, that seems plenty of time to iron out and chisle the script into something all are happy with.

Well, dear Zorin, I hope you´re right. But a director will try to put his stamp on the material. Maybe EON will choose a more workman-like director this time or they will control him more so that the script does not have to be re-written totally.

As to the process of collaboration, I understand that Haggis indeed was not "just" a script doctor but he was the second writer on CR and QOS (counting Purvis/Wade as one, since they do write together). Morgan seems to do just that as well - going in after Purvis/Wade have written a first draft. Or do you have intel that says otherwise?

[Quantumofsolace007]

i have one extremly simple question


Are they currently writing bond 23 right now as we type or will they begin duties soon?

[double o ego]

Work on the script began months ago.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Work on the script began months ago.

then why haven't we gotten any reportts on drafts being completed?

[DamnCoffee]

Because we don't need to be aware of every aspect of the production...


Michael G Wilson: Oh yeah, is it done? Right the first draft is completed people! Well done. Oh, we should just go and tell quantumofsolace007, you know, just to keep HIM updated.

[SecretAgentFan]

Because we don't need to be aware of every aspect of the production...

Sadly.

[tdalton]

Because we don't need to be aware of every aspect of the production...

Absolutely. We don't need to be, nor should we be, in the loop in terms of every aspect surrounding the production. I'd say that we should just leave the writers alone so that they can get their work done rather than demanding constant status updates from them in terms of how many pages they've completed.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Because we don't need to be aware of every aspect of the production...


Michael G Wilson: Oh yeah, is it done? Right the first draft is completed people! Well done. Oh, we should just go and tell quantumofsolace007, you know, just to keep HIM updated.

I wish the world worked liked that ... maybe it does

[DamnCoffee]

Anyway, I thought you of all people should be updated. You know, since you have a contact in MGM. Apparently.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Anyway, I thought you of all people should be updated. You know, since you have a contact in MGM. Apparently.

And if i bug him every time i weant to know bond stuff I think our friendship will end rather fast don't you.

[Zorin Industries]

Work on the script began months ago.

then why haven't we gotten any reportts on drafts being completed?

Because it's no-one's business. And these things take time. There is no story, no hook for the public - not even the fans I'm afraid.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Work on the script began months ago.

then why haven't we gotten any reportts on drafts being completed?

Because it's no-one's business. And these things take time. There is no story, no hook for the public - not even the fans I'm afraid.

I suppose your right. Like with the bond video game people don't want to see the test designs etc they want to see the full game.

[Orion]

Work on the script began months ago.

then why haven't we gotten any reportts on drafts being completed?

Because it's no-one's business. And these things take time. There is no story, no hook for the public - not even the fans I'm afraid.

Exactly, the next update on production probably won't be until a director is hired.

[Zorin Industries]

There are some hurdles to iron out first though.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Work on the script began months ago.

then why haven't we gotten any reportts on drafts being completed?

Because it's no-one's business. And these things take time. There is no story, no hook for the public - not even the fans I'm afraid.

Exactly, the next update on production probably won't be until a director is hired.

it is interesting how i'm really the new kid on the block with these things for bond 22 we had a title rumour extremly early We found out when the first draft was done and we had a list of possible directors for bond 23 we have none of that and it's interesting you all are acting as if this is the norm (hearing nothing) Yet I'm just going on past experience.

[double o ego]

But it is normal though. Just because we may have had updates come early for QoS, it doesn't mean it'll be exactly the same for Bond 23. Hell, QoS was riding on the back of the highly popular CR so the momentum to keep Bond in full swing was on rapid fire and there was also the fact that the writer's strike was happening so things were kind of rushed.

With QoS being a financial success but leaving audiences polarised and with no writer's strike to contend with, Eon can now take the time to come back fresh from the busy and hectic schedules of both CR and QoS and also prepare a much better and sharper script. Sometimes absense makes the ehart grow fonder. I'm sure we'll get more info on the film's production soon enough but as it is, MGM are going through some hard times but with the time available, completing a sharp and compelling script is priority without the stress of rushing things for an early deadline.

[JimmyBond]

Work on the script began months ago.

then why haven't we gotten any reportts on drafts being completed?

Because it's no-one's business. And these things take time. There is no story, no hook for the public - not even the fans I'm afraid.

Exactly, the next update on production probably won't be until a director is hired.

it is interesting how i'm really the new kid on the block with these things for bond 22 we had a title rumour extremly early We found out when the first draft was done and we had a list of possible directors for bond 23 we have none of that and it's interesting you all are acting as if this is the norm (hearing nothing) Yet I'm just going on past experience.

Yeah but you're past experience is QoS. A movie that came out two years after the last film. This time they're not going with the 2 year turn around, so it's going to take a bit longer to start hearing solid news. To be honest I don't expect to hear anything for another year, which is why I don't hang around these forums that much in the "off time."

[tdalton]

it's interesting you all are acting as if this is the norm (hearing nothing)

That's because it has always been this way with EON. Very little comes out of their offices regarding the new film until within a few months of filming. We're currently well over a year away from that point, so I doubt that we'll hear anything until at least sometime next summer. The only possible thing that we could hear before then would potentially be the hiring of a director, but outside of that, I'm not expecting any news until sometime in the summer of 2010, if we even get news then. Until then, Purvis, Wade, and Morgan will be spending their time writing a script, of which we'll get no updates as to its progress (until, possibly, a final draft is turned in, which we may or may not hear about).

[JimmyBond]

Well said tdalton.

Indeed it is the norm. Imagine if this website were around back during the 6 year hiatus between 89 and 95. Quantumofsolace007 would be ting himself at the lack of updates on the film

[sharpshooter]

Bond forums can go without a new film for quite a lengthy period, we do have an extensive back catalogue to discuss. Not many franchises can boast that. We are blessed in that regard. But even then, the hype and excitement a new film generates cannot be denied.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Well said tdalton.

Indeed it is the norm. Imagine if this website were around back during the 6 year hiatus between 89 and 95. Quantumofsolace007 would be ting himself at the lack of updates on the film

uhm in 1989 i was 2 turning 3 in 95 i was 8 turning 9 I was just watching batman and power rangers so even if there were websites around then i wouldn't of cared or said much.

[Zorin Industries]

Well said tdalton.

Indeed it is the norm. Imagine if this website were around back during the 6 year hiatus between 89 and 95. Quantumofsolace007 would be ting himself at the lack of updates on the film

uhm in 1989 i was 2 turning 3 in 95 i was 8 turning 9 I was just watching batman and power rangers so even if there were websites around then i wouldn't of cared or said much.

"Order of irony, table three!"

[jaguar007]

Bond forums can go without a new film for quite a lengthy period, we do have an extensive back catalogue to discuss. Not many franchises can boast that.

Quite true.
Now where is that "what color jumpsuits should the villains in Bond 23 wear" thread?

[Panavision]

I still find it odd that three writers were announced to write Bond 23. What's Peter Morgan bringing to the table that Purvis and Wade are not able to?

[tdalton]

I still find it odd that three writers were announced to write Bond 23. What's Peter Morgan bringing to the table that Purvis and Wade are not able to?

While I think that Morgan will certainly do much more than a polish of P&W's work on the script, I do think that his involvement was brought about because of the success that EON has had with outside writers teaming up with P&W on the last two scripts. Although I'm not a fan of all of the things that Haggis added and deleted from the Casino Royale script, his involvement did help bring instant credibility to the project. Since he's no longer on board, they've turned to Peter Morgan to help P&W craft a good storyline and a good script. More simply, he's there because he's a critically acclaimed screenwriter, and it definitely is a good thing to have someone of that quality working on the script.

[Quantumofsolace007]

I still find it odd that three writers were announced to write Bond 23. What's Peter Morgan bringing to the table that Purvis and Wade are not able to?

While I think that Morgan will certainly do much more than a polish of P&W's work on the script, I do think that his involvement was brought about because of the success that EON has had with outside writers teaming up with P&W on the last two scripts. Although I'm not a fan of all of the things that Haggis added and deleted from the Casino Royale script, his involvement did help bring instant credibility to the project. Since he's no longer on board, they've turned to Peter Morgan to help P&W craft a good storyline and a good script. More simply, he's there because he's a critically acclaimed screenwriter, and it definitely is a good thing to have someone of that quality working on the script.

I'm curious if he was brought on for more than just that he tend to write politcal drama and one of Quantum's operatives is one of the prime ministers closest advisors.

[DaveBond21]

I agree that we don't really know how good or bad Purvis & Wade are, but I do know that they have poncy hair.

[JimmyBond]

I'm curious if he was brought on for more than just that he tend to write politcal drama and one of Quantum's operatives is one of the prime ministers closest advisors.

Hmm, maybe M. Night will be brought in cause he wrote a movie with Jeffrey Wright in it. Why not? That follows your line of reasoning.

[tdalton]

I'm curious if he was brought on for more than just that he tend to write politcal drama and one of Quantum's operatives is one of the prime ministers closest advisors.

Hmm, maybe M. Night will be brought in cause he wrote a movie with Jeffrey Wright in it. Why not? That follows your line of reasoning.

Agreed, although I wouldn't be surprised if the film went down that road with Morgan as the screenwriter. I do think, however, that the sole reason that Morgan was brought in was because EON was looking for a well-respected screenwriter who could replace Paul Haggis and still bring a similar quality of work to the proceedings.

[Zorin Industries]

I still find it odd that three writers were announced to write Bond 23. What's Peter Morgan bringing to the table that Purvis and Wade are not able to?

While I think that Morgan will certainly do much more than a polish of P&W's work on the script, I do think that his involvement was brought about because of the success that EON has had with outside writers teaming up with P&W on the last two scripts. Although I'm not a fan of all of the things that Haggis added and deleted from the Casino Royale script, his involvement did help bring instant credibility to the project. Since he's no longer on board, they've turned to Peter Morgan to help P&W craft a good storyline and a good script. More simply, he's there because he's a critically acclaimed screenwriter, and it definitely is a good thing to have someone of that quality working on the script.

I'm curious if he was brought on for more than just that he tend to write politcal drama and one of Quantum's operatives is one of the prime ministers closest advisors.

Well I will divulge something here...

Peter Morgan is co-writing a Bond film where the villain is a 1960's Governmental lawyer struggling with his conscience who starts to manage a Northern football team before reluctantly becoming Henry VIII's doomed lover. THAT is why Peter Morgan came on board.

I still find it odd that three writers were announced to write Bond 23. What's Peter Morgan bringing to the table that Purvis and Wade are not able to?

While I think that Morgan will certainly do much more than a polish of P&W's work on the script, I do think that his involvement was brought about because of the success that EON has had with outside writers teaming up with P&W on the last two scripts. Although I'm not a fan of all of the things that Haggis added and deleted from the Casino Royale script, his involvement did help bring instant credibility to the project. Since he's no longer on board, they've turned to Peter Morgan to help P&W craft a good storyline and a good script. More simply, he's there because he's a critically acclaimed screenwriter, and it definitely is a good thing to have someone of that quality working on the script.

Peter Morgan is NOT working as a script doctor or polisher. He is co-writing a script with Neil Purvis and Robert Wade. It is a collaborative process all the way and has been since they started work together on the piece.