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#1 RedKelly

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 01:09 AM

What are your thoughts? What would the final Bond movie be like? How would Bond leave, death,retirement, or another way? Would Daniel Craig be fitting as the last Bond? In my opinion yes. Not that any of us want this to happen. I just hope the last Bond film doesn't end on a sour note but leaves people feeling satisfied.

#2 Harmsway

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 01:21 AM

Not that any of us want this to happen.

Well, I want it to happen.

#3 tdalton

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 01:22 AM

I would end the Bond series with Daniel Craig in the lead role. There's really not much more the series can say at this point anyway (unless they really start shaking things up), and like many others have said on these forums, it should probably end with a relatively faithful adaptation of YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE (and I'd like to see the film title be YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE).

#4 RedKelly

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 01:30 AM

I would end the Bond series with Daniel Craig in the lead role. There's really not much more the series can say at this point anyway (unless they really start shaking things up), and like many others have said on these forums, it should probably end with a relatively faithful adaptation of YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE (and I'd like to see the film title be YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE).



Ahh very good I would like it as well. I think Craig should Defintely be the leading man.

#5 jaguar007

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 01:42 AM

I really want to see Craig do a somewhat faithful adaptation of YOLT (perhaps Dr. Shatterhand could really be Mr. White), but I don't want it to end the series. I could see Wilson/Broccoli eventually selling the Bond rights, but someone else will continue with the series.

#6 OmarB

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 03:18 AM

End? Why should it end? Is Superman ever gonna end, Batman, Green lantern, Flash, Conan? Bond's outlived Fleming, Amis, Gardner and a whole bunch of others who had a hand in it. Believe me, it's not going to end, it's a profitable series of literature and movies and it will continue to be profitable, and people never throw out a cash cow.

#7 MattofSteel

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 03:42 AM

I don't think it ever has to end. With the right people in charge, I could see it running to the end of my lifetime and beyond. I'd be fine with that B)

#8 Harmsway

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 03:50 AM

Well, I think it's fair to say that the EON franchise, specifically, will probably end at some point. Whether Bond as a character will ever permanently vanish from theater screens is up to debate (though I suspect there will be a point where Bond is absent from the cinema for quite some time).

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 05:20 AM

If it does end, it'll probably be at a terrible, lame, groan inducing, Batman-and-Robing like film so everyone will be sick of Bond. Then, ten years after that, they'll try rebooting again, maybe even create a period piece 50s version of the character, but most likely just a very serious reboot, even moreso than Casino Royale. We'd lose the music, the action would consist of very brief, harsh moments (like the books).

I mean, honestly, no series stays dead forever. They're rebooting everything these days.

#10 tristanjblythe

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 07:58 AM

You only name a film "You Only Live Twice" twice...

Will Bond end? Well I cannot see him being killed off but nothing lasts forever (expect diamonds, they are forever). In this ever changing world in which we live in 007 has lasted longer than most could feasibly have imaged.

I don't think they'll be a big final movie but perhaps he'll disappear from our screens one day. However leaving him a broken man a la YOLT would be slightly depressing but highly effective so I'd go for that option. Gives them a Golden Gun type opening for a comeback to.

#11 DAN LIGHTER

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 08:51 AM

I agree it will never end. Never! You hear me.........Never!!!!!! And if it ever did we would have to start posting Fan Films on here as well as Fan Fiction! Just to tide us over and keep it going. B)

#12 double o ego

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 09:58 AM

Bond won't end because audiences won't allow it. People need to remember that these films are made for our benefit and with a series that has lasted for almost 50 years simply because, the producers were smart enough to adapt the character and stories to fit with the current societal climate, it makes Bond a firm staple in the hearts and minds of auidences around the world.
I can see it now, a press conference announcing the last Bond film, there'd be anarchy and even then if it were so, Bond would be brought back again in a few years, simply to capitalise on what would have clearly from a financial perspective been a publicity stunt. Why go through all that? As opposed to taking a 4 or 5 year break, which even then is too long, even though it's sort of happened twice before.
As for material/stories, Fleming wasn't the bastion of awesome literature. There are many imaginative writers out there that can lend their talents to telling a great Bond story or how about adapting the other non-fleming books or even adapting a more accurate portryal to some of the existing Books that some of the movies have butchered in the past?
There's just way too much demand and too much untapped potential to even think about Bond coming to a cinematic end.

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 08:36 PM

I also see no reason why the series should end. So far the series has gone through several changes in the lead character as well as changes in continuing supporting character. The series has also survived though the loss of both of the original producers. It has been able to adapt to tastes that fit the public's mood, ranging from the highly popular high camp Moonraker to the highly popular gritty Quantum of Solace. The lack of any new Fleming titles should not affect the series- it has been over thirty years since a Bond film that had no bases in a Fleming book (TSWLM) was a smash hit. The series has also been able to keep going despite highly popular competition, including the cultually phenomenon that was the original three Star Wars films, the Indiana Jones films, the different superhero films, the Bourne films etc. etc. etc.

Now, given that planning a Bond film is very hard work, the producers probably do need to take a break from Bond no and then. However, I see reason for and end to the James Bond series. believe that

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 09:30 PM

I personally do not think that the series should end. Bond is awesome! He's timeless, and always has a new trick or two up his well-tailored sleeve. I, having just gotten into the whole '007 obsession', really want to see a few more movies on the silver screen, instead of just watching the DVD at home. There's just something really cool about Bond on the big screen...

But if they did end it, Craig would be the lead to pick. And I too would love to see them do YOLT. Think about it:

YOLT was done once before, and YOLT would be the last Bond, making it the second time it was done; therefore, Bond only lives twice, and then he's gone.


(Okay, I admit, that worked better in my head, but you get the picture)


#15 Conlazmoodalbrocra

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 09:47 PM

Well I do want Bond to end...but not for years and years and years! I still think that there are at least another ten quality films that can be created. I think the final Bond movie would be like Die Another Day...but good! Lots of homages, but neatly done. Bond could not die! He would have to retire. The only death that would be remotely suitable for Bond would be a Bruce Willis/Armageddon-style death...but that would be extreme. I want another Bond after Craig. Obviously, people have high hopes for Cavill, and I also support this view. So in short, I want another 10+ films before the end, and naturally want another bond actor. Hopefully Craig will do at least another 2. I love him in the role and want...no, DEMAND more of him!!!

#16 RedKelly

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 09:53 PM

Well none of us know when and if it will end. It almost sounds like though that people maybe want a reboot everytime the character is recast. Keeping the basics music,action,romance.

Edited by RedKelly, 17 April 2009 - 09:54 PM.


#17 Colonel Moon

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 09:57 PM

Some people here are way to much Craig blinded they cant see any other actor after Craig. We had www.craignotbond.com, after Craig we get www.actorwhowillplaybondaftercraignotbond.com

Edited by Colonel Moon, 17 April 2009 - 09:59 PM.


#18 RedKelly

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 09:59 PM

Some people here are way to much Craig blinded they cant see any other actor after Craig. We had www.craignotbond.com, after Craig we get www.actorhowillplaybondaftercraignotbond.com


I only imagine what films would have been like if websites like CBn were around when Moore and Lazenby were cast. Or Brosnan.

#19 The Ghost Who Walks

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 10:05 PM

I, having just gotten into the whole '007 obsession', really want to see a few more movies on the silver screen, instead of just watching the DVD at home. There's just something really cool about Bond on the big screen...


Yeah, a new Bond film in theatres is always an event for me too (it obviously is for most of the people on these boards!). I've been a fan of the series for around twelve years, but the first of them I got to see in theatres was Die Another Day (certainly not the best choice!), so I still feel I'm kind of "new" to seeing Bond movies on the big screen, as opposed to on a TV, which makes it even more special and exciting.

The franchise will obviously end someday, but I think the character will always come back, not necessarily due to the same people being involved but James Bond will always return, much like somebody serves us a new take on Sherlock Holmes, Frankenstein, Dracula etc. every few years. I don't want a "final" Bond movie, certainly not with Craig. He gave the franchise the energy boost it needed to last for many more years.

Edited by The Ghost Who Walks, 17 April 2009 - 10:05 PM.


#20 Vauxhall

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 10:31 PM

The franchise will end with Sheriff J.W. Pepper waking up and discovering it was all a dream. Fact.

#21 Mr. Somerset

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 10:36 PM

The franchise will end with Sheriff J.W. Pepper waking up and discovering it was all a dream. Fact.

Classic!!!!!!!!!!!

#22 danielcraigisjamesbond007

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 10:36 PM

I don't think that Bond will ever end. He might "go away" for a few years (ie, Licence to Kill-GoldenEye gap), but he is an enduring character. As long as Bond has an audience, people will definitely WANT to see him. As long as Bond is "alive," MGW and BB will continue to make money off of him, and they'd be fools (Sorry if that's too strong a word) to "kill off" something that's making them money...IMO.

#23 tdalton

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 10:39 PM

When I described my ending for the Bond series above, my idea was that the EON Bond franchise should end with Craig, but not that we wouldn't see another Bond film ever again.

I think that a great way to go about doing it would be to have EON end their series with Craig starring in YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, and then maybe ten years or so down the line, have another studio pick the rights up, and restart it with an adaptation of certain elements of Fleming's TMWTGG.

#24 Mr. Blofeld

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 10:42 PM

The franchise will end with Sheriff J.W. Pepper waking up and discovering it was all a dream. Fact.

Classic!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey, let's even make Clifton James the head of Quantum! What a riot! B)

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 11:59 PM

When I described my ending for the Bond series above, my idea was that the EON Bond franchise should end with Craig, but not that we wouldn't see another Bond film ever again.

I think that a great way to go about doing it would be to have EON end their series with Craig starring in YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, and then maybe ten years or so down the line, have another studio pick the rights up, and restart it with an adaptation of certain elements of Fleming's TMWTGG.


I agreed with you on the other thread about this and I have to agree that Craig's last Bond films should have a similar story line that the YOLT novel tells since its the one story we have never seen in a Bond films and if they adapt the YOLT novel they could finally get the Japanese culture right which is considerably different from what is portrayed in the YOLT film. I also dig the YOLT idea because we would get go full circle with the character of Bond in Craig's era in the sense that we see Bond at his beginnings with CR and QoS to a certain extent and the next couple of films could show Bond that we know and love that wonderful machine that most of the prior Bond actors have portrayed and then they could end his era with a bang with the YOLT ending and in some ways it would be ironic for Craig's era to end like this since in CR when Bond decides to quit because he wants a normal life with Vesper and this slips away from him in CR but he would end up having a normal life with a girl he really likes in the YOLT ending which would provide a very redeeming aspect to the Craig era and would show that no one is a lost cause not even James Bond who would end up getting what he really wanted. Whether the Bond movies would continue after this is up for debate but would more than likely continue but in the way that they would forget what happened in the Craig era altogether when it comes to the timeline but if they keep coming with different variations of previous Bond films that were done better in the past I would ask what would be the point of continuing to make them? Now if they kept coming up with fresh ways to make a Bond films seem new and unpredictable or take a previous concept that was never executed that well and bettered it or perfected it than that would be a good reason for them to continue. I just want to see film that could be considered to be the last James Bond film even if they were going to have more afterwards since it would be interesting to see it told since we have not seen it before and would more than likely not see it if its not done in the Craig era plus the YOLT novel needs a faithful adaption its just that good IMO.

#26 A Kristatos

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 04:55 AM

Why don't we just have Bond get shot and killed, and then cut to the final scene of him reuniting with Tracy in Heaven! B)

Of course saying that with tongue firmly in cheek, THAT'S how I feel about this thread! A complete waste of time since Bond will ALWAYS be around! :tdown:

But since someone will inevitably respond to this post by asking the question again, my serious answer would be to end it similar to CR before Vesper betrayed him. Maybe adding a final scene between Bond and M thanking him for so many years of great service. I think something like that would be a fitting ending, though again, I don't think we have to worry about this in our lifetime! :tdown:

#27 Aris007

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 11:52 AM

The franchise will end with Sheriff J.W. Pepper waking up and discovering it was all a dream. Fact.


Or, Mr. Kidd wakes up, turns his head, we see Pussy Galore lying next to him and then we hear: "Oh, James!" B)

Anyway, I don't think that the franchise will end or I hope so. But even if it ends, I imagine it more like Star Wars. The films will end, but we may have someting like a series or books only.

#28 DominicGreene

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 12:13 PM

Bond will never end. There are so many james bond titles to use such as Robert Garners novels, or even brain thought titles. Everyone always has ideas and there is no endless supply to ideas, so basicly Bond could last forever, not because of "limited" titles, but because of humans ourselves have the potetial to create more and more ideas.

#29 Vauxhall

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 12:15 PM

Bond will never end. There are so many james bond titles to use such as Robert Garners novels, or even brain thought titles.

John Gardner?

Also, I don't think anyone is arguing that the Bond franchise will end because people have run out of titles for the movies. The actual content is more of an issue.

#30 RedKelly

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 12:52 PM

Bond will never end. There are so many james bond titles to use such as Robert Garners novels, or even brain thought titles.

John Gardner?

Also, I don't think anyone is arguing that the Bond franchise will end because people have run out of titles for the movies. The actual content is more of an issue.


Yes I agree. But that may not be the case just get a new writer or a new idea and we could see an immortal character again.