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[Carver]

Ok, some of you may just tut and say that I'm stupid, but come Saturday I might be geting a replica PPK:D. I saw it at and atiques store thingy, in a cabinet, starnge though, before I entred the building, I had this feeling that I would find a PPk in there... Anyways, its a proper replica, I don't think it fires anything, but I don't care, and it costs

[Blue Eyes]

OOH a very old PPK! Not very Bond "Ve are ze British, ve ask ze questions", but still, cool to have a PPK!

[Double-Oh-Zero]

Good show, Carver. That's too bad about the Walther sign missing, but it's better than nothing. And that is a very old one. May want to be careful with that. What finish is it? Black? Or like the one in your sig?

[Spectre001]

Good luck Carver. Let us know how you get on...and don't go holding up any banks if you get it

[Bryce (003)]

I've got two. One's the real deal (7.65 and deadly in my hands - I've been shooting it for 10 years) and the other is blank replica that also has been threaded for the prop silencer. Two types of 8mm blanks are used. One type for non-silenced, the other (smaller load) for the silencer. It does look menacing. Great to have but, certainy not toys.

Somewhere I've got a pic of me in the "pose".

*Bryce starts scrolling the pics*

[Carver]

Bryce-you always succeed in making me jealous
000-its in black, and yes, it is very old
Spectre-don't worry, no bank robberies!
BE-you know how to make me laugh!
I am slightly dissappointed about the gun not having the Walther logo, but its still a lovely gun, and there is this horrible feeling that it won't be there come the weekend, I don't know why:(

[Carver]

Well, I finally got it on Sunday:D. My dad says its a replica, but I reckon its a deactivated war time one, it certainly looks a hell of a lot like one if it isn't. Its a black finish, may need polishing up and its got all the things, magazine release, blow back and stuff. Now all I want is a silencer, shoulder holster and tux:p. BTW, Hopefully Tim or someone may be able to translate the German writting on the barrel.
German Polizei u. Dienst Automatisch Pistole Kal. 635-BL Mod.PDP#
I think it is something to do with the calibre and that it was german police gun.

[Roebuck]

Originally posted by Carver
I think it is something to do with the calibre and that it was  german police gun.

Well, PPK actually stands for Polizeipistole Kriminal (Police Pistol, Detective Model). And while the calibre of Bond's Walther was 7.65mm (as I remember it) there might have been a 6.35mm version.
Bryce would be the best person to advise on that.

[Bryce (003)]

Thanks Roebuck.

Carver, remember - I've got almost 20 years on you - so I'm aloud to have a few more experiences and toys.

As to your PPK...Congrats! The best Bond gun ever! The 635 - That's the caliber 6.35 or .25 auto. Same as Bond's Beretta but in a PPK. One of my early replica models was the same.

As to a silencer, you know how it should look. Some of the hobby stores have metal tubing that can be cut to any size. I might also suggest a hardware store. Tell them what you're doing (do the same at your hobby store - they tend to appreciate creating a good prop) and hopefully you'll end up witha silenced PPK!

Congrats again. Be proud.

[Carver]

Thanks Roebuck, I never knew that. Bryce, with each post you seem more and more like Bond. I will probably go with your advice and do a bit of DIY for a silencer, if I can't find a real one that is. Does this mean that my PPK is not a Bond gun? Being diferent calibres I mean:(

[Bryce (003)]

Carver - a PPK is a PPK, regardless of the caliber. Hell, they've been through all of the small loads over the years. To my knowledge, PPK's were chambered and produced in .22(5.5mm), .25(6.35mm), .32(7.65mm), .380(9mm short).

The true Bond PPK is (as stated in DN - both book and film) 7.65mm (.32).

Carver, you have a PPK. Follow up on the silencer. As I said/typed: "be proud".

[Carver]

Oh well, as long as it looks and feels like a PPK, I don't care what the calibre is, true Bond or not true Bond:D

[Roebuck]

Originally posted by Carver
as long as it looks and feels like a PPK, I don't care what the calibre is

My sentiments also. Keep in mind that in the films the Walther PP and P5 have both doubled as the PPK. There's even a continuity error in TSWLM where Roger draws a Beretta, which is then swapped for a Walther in the next shot.

[Bryce (003)]

Originally posted by Roebuck
....There's even a continuity error in TSWLM where Roger draws a Beretta, which is then swapped for a Walther in the next shot.

A-Ha! Roebuck - good eyes. I recall even at the tender age of ten watching the scene for the first time - Bond is approaching the gate when Jaws exits. Bond (in a flash) draws his....Walther?

Nope. Upon careful review, the gun is oddly enough, a Beretta. Model 70-S. It is a very Bond gun. Sleek and smooth and I have fired a few in my day. Very much like the PPK. The P-5 makes it's debut in both OP (where Bond refers to it as a PPK) and NSNA. Credit to Walther PR team in '82 for getting their newest gun into both films.

I do like the P-99, but it is a bit bulky although the military issue does pack 15 rounds of 9mm.

The caviar factory scene in TWINE is fun just to see 007 in a gun battle with his sidearm.

When the intl. meetup happens Carver, we'll have to compare weapons. Roebuck - Good eyes man!

[stromberg]

Originally posted by Carver
My dad says its a replica, but I reckon its a deactivated war time one, it certainly looks a hell of a lot like one if it isn't....BTW, Hopefully Tim or someone may be able to translate the German writting on the barrel.
German Polizei u. Dienst Automatisch Pistole Kal. 635-BL Mod.PDP#
I think it is something to do with the calibre and that it was  german police gun.

Is it really "German" or is it "Deutsche"? Sounds a bit strange that they wrote "German" on a German Gun (and when it has a swastika on it, that seems nearly impossible) "Polizei u. Dienst Automatisch Pistole" means "Police and Service Automatic Gun". "Kal. 635-BL Mod.PDP" should be obvious.
If it really says "Automatisch" and not "Automatische" (with an 'e' in the end), this is quite sure a replica. (too many typing errors on it).
But everything is possible: I checked this out on the German Walther HP: "Some experimental weapons and prototypes became the private war booty of American soldiers. Even today, Walther weapons exist in the USA, the existence of which is known by Walther in Ulm,but are unfortunately impossible to trace." Maybe these pages can help to find out more about: http://www.carl-walt...isch/index.html
http://www.carl-walt...glisch/usa.html
Don't know too much about weapons, but I hope this helps.

[Carver]

Well darn Stromberg, you just got it right! It must be a replica, as it does say 'German' and Automatisch without the 'e'. I don't care anyways, it still my little gem:o. BTW, yeah Bryce, we could compare, altough I doubt the airport security would allow you the bring your Walther over here:rolleyes:.

[Bryce (003)]

Carver - Even in this post 9/11 world, I'm terrified at what I am able to get on a plane with. Thankfully, while I am devious, I'm on MI6's side.

Although, I do have a friend in London. Maybe I could ship a few props to her...If nothing else, I'll bring pics.

[Carver]

Bryce pal, if the security caught you, you would really have to do some explaining, because, unlike Bond, I don't think you could just flash your ID:(

[Bryce (003)]

You'd be surprised by the ID I carry, my bro'.

One or two "official" cards that are the real deal. I wasn't always an editor/writer.

[Blue Eyes]

Well there ya go

Anyhoo, on the topic of PPk's, I've noticed that Walther and Smith And Wesson have got together to create the latest PPK. Same beautiful design, but a few slight improvements.

[Roebuck]

Yeah, the PPK/S isn't it? Bryce and I had a conversation about this a while back. I remember him saying was going to dig around for some more info when he had the time.

[Bryce (003)]

Indeed Roebuck, I recall our previous discussion.

It is in fact the PPK/s. From what I was able to find out (from a police officer I shoot with) S&W took the basic PPK design and slimmed it down and added a 1/4 inch to the barrel length. There was also some re-tooling of the trigger action and the safety.

I put about 100+ rounds through one, the recoil is a bit smoother - more of a slide than a snap, but I'm still fond of my .32 PPK.

[Carver]

Geez Bryce, you keep brigning up all these surprises, I mean, I didn't know about those 'secret ID cards' and the cop you shoot with;). When will you become 007?

[Bryce (003)]

When Pierce knocks on my door and relinquishes the title;)

Actually, I like being my own 007 in the form of 003.

[Carver]

Oh yeah, I forgot about your title, 003. Maybe you can take over from the 003 who died in Siberia in AVTAK?

[Bryce (003)]

That was the idea when I picked the number for role-playing back in '85.

[Carver]

So, we have our very own 00-agent of this forum! And one who owns PPKs, is a good shot,drives nice cars and has the essence of Bond:)

[Bryce (003)]

I'm hardly a double-o, but in spirit - Oh Yeah;)

My style is my own but heavily Bond influenced.

[Carver]

Well, at least we know that your a 00 in spirit Bryce, with or without your '003' number:)