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The end of the villians...


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#1 Jimbo007

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Posted 22 September 2002 - 09:25 PM

This is just out of curiosity, but how do you think that each of the villain's death will be in DAD. These may get realing creative, especially coming from the users of commanderbond.net forums :)

#2 JLMuench

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Posted 22 September 2002 - 10:17 PM

Graves- Sucked out of plane (GF) :)
Moon- Returns :)
Frost- Sword Fight (Beaten by Jinx):) the new gypsy fight,just w/swords :)
Zao- ???

What do u think boys and gals? :)

#3 rubixcub

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Posted 22 September 2002 - 10:36 PM

I pretty much agree with JLMuench. It is possible Zao could survive a la Jaws. Still, given that the call sheet didn't list him as being in the finale, I would venture to guess he may meet his end as early as the car chase in Iceland or perhaps shortly before the finale.

The rest I agree with. Or at least that's pretty much what I'd hope for.

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#4 TheNewBlofeld

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 12:24 AM

What abut Mr. Kil? I say he meets his end in the laser room scene from the preview.

#5 Blue Eyes

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 12:46 AM

Let me think, for all the non-regular characters;

Miranda Frost - survives
Jinx - death on the Antanov, perhaps going out the back of the plane thanks to a little push from Bond.
Graves - death on the Antanov, perhaps his suit has a self destruct sequence which Bond activates. A 'suit' death would be cool.
Zao - I'd like him to have an ambiguous death. The 'did he really die?' sort.

#6 1q2w3e4r

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 02:35 AM

I don't know! I don't have a clue who's the real villian :) Jinx pushed out of the plane by Bond eh? You know something we don't?

#7 HUNTER C.

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 03:38 AM

Originally posted by Blue Eyes
Let me think, for all the non-regular characters;

Miranda Frost - survives
Jinx - death on the Antanov, perhaps going out the back of the plane thanks to a little push from Bond.
Graves - death on the Antanov, perhaps his suit has a self destruct sequence which Bond activates. A 'suit' death would be cool.
Zao - I'd like him to have an ambiguous death. The 'did he really die?' sort.


Lol this is what really happens, isn't it?

#8 rubixcub

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 04:45 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you see the script? If so, are you telling what you would want to see happen, or what actually DOES happen?

Just a side note, you made no mention of Colonel Moon. What would you want to see/what actually does happen to him?

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#9 Mourning Becomes Electra

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 05:00 AM

I believe those are Blue Eyes, wishes. Haven't you noticed that he's quite fond of Rosamund Pike which is why he'd rather Miranda madk it out alive and Berry got it in the neck. :)

My suppositions (not necessarily choices)

Mr Kils in the laser scene
Zao in the Ice Palace chase
Ms Frost, hoisted on her own sword.
Graves in the airplane, sucked out
Col Moon kills Falco and takes his place for the sequal :) (my complete shot in the dark!)

#10 Blue Eyes

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 05:05 AM

Ah yes, I'm am fond of the lovely Miss Pike :)

As for Colonel Moon, I'd like to see him get ribbed through the fan of a hovercraft :)

#11 walther

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 05:05 AM

I have a few shots in the dark,

Of course Graves being sucked out of the plane.

But here they come,

Col. Moon kills Zao

And Jinx and Frost both die, leaving Bond w/out a woman at the end.

I know, out of left field, but hey I'm creative and curious. What can I say?

#12 walther

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 05:08 AM

Originally posted by Blue Eyes
As for Colonel Moon, I'd like to see him get ribbed through the fan of a hovercraft :) [/B]


*Winces* oh... ouch. Man, you have one heck of a sick imagination.

But hey I like it! :)

It would have to be incredibly gory I think.

#13 Mourning Becomes Electra

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 05:19 AM

Bond w/o a woman? When there at least 10 catsuited Ice Palace Babes roaming around somewhere. Not bloody likely. :)

Oh and Mr Mustard with a candlestick in the drawing room.

#14 Jim

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 07:16 AM

Originally posted by Blue Eyes
Ah yes, I'm am fond of the lovely Miss Pike :)  

As for Colonel Moon, I'd like to see him get ribbed through the fan of a hovercraft :)


The ****** hits the fan, huh?

#15 freemo

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 08:55 AM

Jinx pushed out of the plane by Bond eh? You know something we don't?


I think he may be throwing us a red-herring, I wouldn't put it past him. :)

#16 devilchild

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 09:01 AM

i am hoping that gustov graves does not get sucked out of a plane i will be mega pissed. but i like the idea of the exploding jacket

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 09:16 AM

Originally posted by walther


*Winces* oh... ouch. Man, you have one heck of a sick imagination.

But hey I like it! :)

It would have to be incredibly gory I think.


Yeah, this could be a homage (nod/wink) to OHMSS' ski chase where the bloke chasing Bond falls into the snow spreader. Classic scene.

#18 Sir James

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 11:28 AM

well according to www.mi6.co.uk it says that "The finale is now set for a frantic showdown between Bond, Jinx, Frost and Graves onboard an enormous Antonov plane above Korea. The friction between Jinx and Frost climaxes in a girl-on-girl fight that is set to stun Bond fans in November."

I guess that settles it!

#19 Blue Eyes

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 11:32 AM

Nope, I wouldn't say that it would.

#20 Brad Tirpitz

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 12:56 PM

MI6.co.uk certainly seems to state with some confidence what happens in the movie. There are a whole range of assertions made in the Frost news piece from the finale to Frost's motives, loyalties and actions - and how do they know?

I'm with Dan 'Blue Eyes' Dykes I find it hard to believe they've got it right. If they did, MGM/Eon would be threatening them with legal action!

#21 walther

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 01:47 PM

With all the news we've had on this film, you'd think we'd be able to figure out who bad and who's good. But this time around, I don't think we will, no matter who says what. So come November, I'm keeping a completely unbiased mind and expecting the unexpected. That's all you really can do.

#22 Tedley King

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 03:42 PM

I'm actually beginning to like Graves, I don't want him to die, I'd like it if he lived but disappeard or came back again, say in Bond 21, 22?

#23 Jim

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Sir James
The friction between Jinx and Frost climaxes in a girl-on-girl fight...


Fnarr

Unless it's another bloody reference - that gypsy camp thingy.

Oh help me Jesu - Ah'm a seein' references when there ain't none there. What ails me, Jesu? What ails me?

#24 Mourning Becomes Electra

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 05:15 PM

Yeah it's a reference, and James Bond fights the villian, yet another reference; in fact James Bond just being in this movie is a refernce to all the other Bond movies, even Casino Royal and NSNA. What about M, Moneypenny and Q being in it? References! Then there are the rumors of guns, cars and babes.... and get this Bond is even seen walking around, he must have done that in at least a dozen films. What a ripoff.

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 05:47 PM

I'm with Blue Eyes as far finding Miranda Frost more intriguing than Jinx ( who is still fairly interesting herself). And I'm with him, as well, as far as hoping she survives.

However, what we've seen so far in the press (and other tidbits I've gathered off-line) seem to point to us (Blue Eyes and myself) being disappointed as far as Miranda living to Die Another Day. Furthermore, the article on Miranda Frost at www.mi6.co.uk is fraught with spoilers that hint at her ultimate alignment.....

I personally think she will bite it in the sword-fight with Jinx (alas). But, hey, you never know....

#26 C. Tounes

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 06:42 PM

I'd say Bond kills Frost just like he killed Elektra.
Graves gets sucked out plane.
Jinx survives and never seen again.
Zao -Ambigous death I like it !
Moon lives to DAD.

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 07:00 PM

*** SPOILERS (perhaps) ***

I used to think that Bond would kill Frost (before that I thought Graves would), until I read an article about Bond trying to regain control of the Antanov while Frost and Jinx duke it out in the back. If Jinx doesn't kill her, perhaps Bond regains control of the aircraft, and races back to the cabin in time to prevent Miranda from killing Jinx. By killing her....

We'll see soon, I suppose....

#28 WC

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 07:59 PM

I think they'll die in this way:

Jinx: Bond wolf-whistles, triggering her exploding bikini. For once the 2- piece swimsuit lives up to its explosive name.

Frost: Frozen in liquid nitrogen after saying: "I am invincible"

Graves: Gets shot by a pulse-triggered dart and asked: "heartbroken, mr graves?"

Zao: gets submerged in boiling water and is unable to hold on due to his stiff plastic gloves he was wearing.

Moon: gets tied to the mast of a ship after tossing a few bottles at Bond

Madonna - falls on her rapier during a fencing lesson - Bond says "I think she got the point"

#29 rubixcub

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 09:53 PM

I take it this is referring to Lawrence Makaore's character. Where did you get this name from?

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#30 Blue Eyes

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 10:21 PM

You know, at the end of the day, do you really want to know who is the villain? Is it Jinx, Miranda, Moneypenny, M? Do you really want to know?