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[Barry the Saint]

Max Zorin ,the steroid kid,brought to the screen brilliantly by Christopher Walken - portraying the 'under the surface insanity' superbly.

I thought he was a powerful presence throught the whole film and the final battle with Sir Roger's Bond was great to watch.

What do you think ? do you like the character ?

[Daddy Bond]

He is probably my least favorite villain out the the Bond movies. There's not much about AVTAK that I really like. Some things, yes, many things, no.

[HH007]

I was disappointed with Max Zorin. Christopher Walken can play a great bad guy (he's made a career of it), but I think that villain was very weak, kind of like the film itself.

[Mr_Wint]

He was far better than the villians we've had after AVTAK, but not anything special compared to earlier films.

[SPOTTER]

I think that he is quite a memorable villain as others have said but he is by no means up there with the best. Christopher Walken is a great actor but he did star in probably the weakest Bond film of the lot.

[Zorin Industries]

I think that he is quite a memorable villain as others have said but he is by no means up there with the best. Christopher Walken is a great actor but he did star in probably the weakest Bond film of the lot.

Nostalgia and that of other people's is a limiting device.

[Publius]

He is definitely one of my favorite villains, even if he does come across as cliche in some ways. A true lunatic unlike any we've seen (the last thing he does is chuckle before falling to his death). Would have made a far better counterpart to Dalton's no-nonsense Bond, almost like the Joker versus Batman.

[Qwerty]

One of the highlghts of my least favourite Bond film. As previously stated, he is a complete lunatic and his scenes with Bond (particularly the early ones, such as choosing a horse and the "you've lost, 007" sequence) work out quite well.

[triviachamp]

He seemed a bit bland. Christopher Walken doing his creepy guy stuff but trying to sound posh(????) was sort of off putting. The whole Nazi Supermen stuff was a bit desperate, certainly he didn't show superstrength or superintelligence (Shoot Bond!) . The fact that his plot is a blatant imitation of Goldfinger's mixed in with Lex Luthor and Mola Ram didn't help matters. I suspect the only reason he uses conventional explosives instead of nukes was to avoid comparisons to Superman and NSNA.

[Mr_Wint]

The fact that his plot is a blatant imitation of Goldfinger's mixed in with Lex Luthor and Mola Ram didn't help matters.

You can say the same thing about many villains. The Goldfinger connection is so extremely exaggerated. AVTAK is not a Goldfinger-remake. They are totally different.

[james st.john smythe]

I love Max, he's one of the best

[Skudor]

I think Zorin is the highlight of an otherwise sub-par Bond flick.

[plankattack]

I think Zorin is the highlight of an otherwise sub-par Bond flick.

Agreed. Not the greatest villain in the series, but far from the worse. Walken's plan pretty much seemed to be to laugh like a maniac at every opportunity and it works. If Stacy Sutton was babbling hysterically in my ear I'd probably just laugh too. Sure he's been more menacing in other movies since (True Romance, King of New York) but Zorin fits into this Bond adventure well. And the sixty seconds after the horse chase where he and Bond face off by the Rolls-Royce definitely brought the best out of Sir Rog.

[Cruiserweight]

One of my favorite villains in the series.

[Turn]

I think Zorin is the highlight of an otherwise sub-par Bond flick.

Agreed. Not the greatest villain in the series, but far from the worse. Walken's plan pretty much seemed to be to laugh like a maniac at every opportunity and it works. If Stacy Sutton was babbling hysterically in my ear I'd probably just laugh too. Sure he's been more menacing in other movies since (True Romance, King of New York) but Zorin fits into this Bond adventure well. And the sixty seconds after the horse chase where he and Bond face off by the Rolls-Royce definitely brought the best out of Sir Rog.

I'll third that. AVTAK really drags whenever Walken isn't on screen, especially that stretch in San Francisco.

[Blonde Bond]

I think Zorin is the highlight of an otherwise sub-par Bond flick.

Agreed. Not the greatest villain in the series, but far from the worse. Walken's plan pretty much seemed to be to laugh like a maniac at every opportunity and it works. If Stacy Sutton was babbling hysterically in my ear I'd probably just laugh too. Sure he's been more menacing in other movies since (True Romance, King of New York) but Zorin fits into this Bond adventure well. And the sixty seconds after the horse chase where he and Bond face off by the Rolls-Royce definitely brought the best out of Sir Rog.

I'll third that. AVTAK really drags whenever Walken isn't on screen, especially that stretch in San Francisco.

And I agree aswell. The best bits of AVTAK were; Duran Duran's title song, Christopher Walken and the bridge stuff in the end.

[Mr_Wint]

I would add the horce race as one of the best bits in the film. From Bonds meeting with Zorin at the office to Bond finding Tibbett dead and the following attempt to kill Bond. Moore shines when he's acting opposite Christopher Walken.

[Professor Dent]

I'm middle of the road on the character but do like Walken's portrayal of it. I love Walken's facial expressions in the scene in his study when he is looking at the computer monitor read out & finds out that St. John Smythe is really Bond.

[FlemingBond]

I like Zorin quite a bit.

[Shaun Forever]

The Goldfinger connection is so extremely exaggerated. AVTAK is not a Goldfinger-remake. They are totally different.

Glad someone has finally said it.

[bond 16.05.72]

A missed opportunity, if this had been a Dalton entry I think we could have seen a lot of fireworks, instead of the damp squib we got.

Moore was entirely wrong, Tim would have given this more dramatic and tense feel a real meeting of 2 great actors.

Although he gets one of the most outright bloodthirsty moments of the series and it's perpetrated by himself, if chucking a KGB agent in to the pipeline isn't bad enough he slaughters loads of innocent workers in coldblooded relish in the mine sequence. Undoubtedly proving his psychotic credentials.

There is an argument Randal of Clerks style, (you know the one about Jedi being darker than Empire due to contract workers etc) for suggesting VTAK contains probably the darkest moment of any Bond film in history.

[DLibrasnow]

One of my favorite villains.

[Royal Dalton]

He amused me, Mr. Bond.

[ACE]

I. Propose. Toend. The DOMinAtion. Ofsiliconvalley.

[Royal Dalton]

Anyone else wanna drop out?

[deth]

He is probably my least favorite villain out the the Bond movies. There's not much about AVTAK that I really like. Some things, yes, many things, no.

aren't you forgetting about Gustave Graves?

[LadySylvia]

I rather liked him. And he had brains . . . especially if he was able to figure out there was something odd about Bond at his reception for the horse sale. And Christopher Walken gave Zorin a lot of panache without being over-the-top. I especially liked that.

[Mr. Blofeld]

He should have been played by David Bowie.

[LadySylvia]

I think that Bowie probably would have made a good Bond villain.

And I also believe that Walken made a good Bond villain.

[onlyone007]

The Goldfinger connection is so extremely exaggerated. AVTAK is not a Goldfinger-remake. They are totally different.

Glad someone has finally said it.

You both are joking right? Right?!

Anyway the only interesting thing about AVTAK is the interaction between Roger and Macnee and that's about it, easily the worst movie in the series. Walken's performance and character are just too wacky and off the wall to me, maybe I'd have liked the film slightly more if both were better but there's a lot more going against it than simply the villian.