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[Daddy Bond]

Could someone fill me in as to WHY Bond shot and killed Electra King??? I know that she was guilty of a lot of treachery and deception (and yes, responsible for what she did), but the killing seemed rather unnecessary (and honestly, she did appear to be acting irrationally - based upon her kidnapper's previous influence).

Couldn't Bond have just buster her radio and cracked her across the jaw knocking her out?

[JimmyBond]

Bond was (understandably) pissed at her. Elektra:

-Orchestrated a terrorist attack on MI6 (in the process using Bond as the mule)

-Killed a longtime friend of M

-Toyed with Bond's emotions*

*I don't think it was clear enough in the film, but we're meant to believe that Bond falls in love with Elektra, that's why he's so hurt/pissed when he finds out she's working with Renard.

[Mister Asterix]

[mra]Because if he didn

[Royal Dalton]

Bond's a bit trigger happy in that film. He even shot poor old Davidov stone dead for no good reason.

Rather callous, that one, I thought...

[Daddy Bond]

Bond was (understandably) pissed at her. Elektra:

-Orchestrated a terrorist attack on MI6 (in the process using Bond as the mule)

-Killed a longtime friend of M

-Toyed with Bond's emotions*

*I don't think it was clear enough in the film, but we're meant to believe that Bond falls in love with Elektra, that's why he's so hurt/pissed when he finds out she's working with Renard.

Undoubtedly she was guilty of all of that, it just seems extreme (to the ultimate degree) without fully sorting out all the details later on (when she's in jail or whatever). Perhaps she deserved death, but it was to reactionary and senseless the way it was portrayed on screen (even with all she had done).

[JimmyBond]

At that point in the film Bond was beyond the breaking point. I bet he would have shot Christmas if she had pissed him off as well.

[Cruiserweight]

Because she was a simple as that.After all Elektra had done i would have done it myself if i was bond.

[Vauxhall]

His decision to shoot Elektra was based on impulse rather than clear thought. Interestingly, this is similar to the idea of Bond created in CASINO ROYALE - that he started out as an angry raw man, rough around the edges, whose heart often overruled his head. It seems that aspects of this character were also apparent in THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH.

Edited due to terrible typo...

[Turn]

Bond's a bit trigger happy in that film. He even shot poor old Davidov stone dead for no good reason.

Rather callous, that one, I thought...

Sure, he could have knocked him out only to have him warn Elektra or Renard when he recovered, blowing Bond's cover, when it was so much more dramatic to have Christmas do it at the sight.

Come on, Bond is an assassain. He's killed people in equally callous if not worse ways -- Prof. Dent, for instance in DN or Killifer or that guy he spears on the Wavekrest in LTK.

On the other hand, an instance where Moore's Bond was particularly vicious was in AVTAK when he fires the rifle at the Zorin henchman as he tries to escape and he only falls over, finding it's filled with rock salt. It was rock salt, but the way he shot the guy was rough.

[The Richmond Spy]

She did nearly snap his neck in two just minutes before he runs up the stairs and kills her. He knew she would've killed him if Valentin hadn't given him an opportunity to escape.

[stamper]

His decision to shoot Vesper

What ? Must have missed that one. When did it happen ?

[Mr_Wint]

I think Bond did the right thing. She was the real villain in the film.

Bond's a bit trigger happy in that film. He even shot poor old Davidov stone dead for no good reason.

Poor Davidov. He caugt a bullet instead of the plane... and was buried with work

[Scottlee]

Davidov was reaching for his breast pocket. Bond had no choice but to shoot him.

[deth]

His decision to shoot Vesper

What ? Must have missed that one. When did it happen ?

I think that may have been a typo. Nevertheless, in CR he does kind of decide to kill Vesper, when she's being held hostage and the guys with the patch shouts "I'll kill her!"... he says quietly, "Allow me..."

not that he would have done it though..

[stamper]

In any case, Bond killed Elektra King because she made him look like a wimp. I guess Craig's Bond would have killed her within 15mn of meeting her.

[Kilroy6644]

Maybe it was just to remind us that Bond can be a coldhearted S.O.B.

[Vauxhall]

His decision to shoot Vesper

What ? Must have missed that one. When did it happen ?

Eugh what a terrible typo... My strongest apologies

I'll correct the original post...

[Garth007]

His decision to shoot Vesper

What ? Must have missed that one. When did it happen ?

Eugh what a terrible typo... My strongest apologies

I'll correct the original post...

Wow!
that would have been very odd to see that happen in the movie. Bond just turn around and shoot vesper.
lol. just joking around.

[Blonde Bond]

The job's done and the bitch is dead

Oh noes, the submarine! *jumps*

[dinovelvet]

Answer : To finish the bloody movie

[JimmyBond]

In any case, Bond killed Elektra King because she made him look like a wimp. I guess Craig's Bond would have killed her within 15mn of meeting her.

Craig's Bond would have killed Elektra after having sex with her, deduce that Renard is working for her, find Renard that same night, kill him as well, then be back at MI6 in time for tea.

[Garth007]

In any case, Bond killed Elektra King because she made him look like a wimp. I guess Craig's Bond would have killed her within 15mn of meeting her.

Craig's Bond would have killed Elektra after having sex with her, deduce that Renard is working for her, find Renard that same night, kill him as well, then be back at MI6 in time for tea.

LOL. my stomach hurts so much from LOL!

or he could come back in time to have a cold one.

lol

[supernova]

Why? Because she was a 100% villian. The only reason you are asking the question is because she was a beautiful woman.

[stamper]

Craig's Bond would have killed Elektra after having sex with her, deduce that Renard is working for her, find Renard that same night, kill him as well, then be back at MI6 in time for tea.

I agree, and by then, we would only be 25mn into the movie with two hours to go I mean, Renard, regardless of how many awards the actor won for his past work, was a Z grade henchman suddenly elevated to A statut while remaining as magnetic and dangerous as a Z man. IMHO he ruined the whole movie, and Bond being unable to blast him on the first or second encounter was just pathetic. That sequence with the burning rock... LOL... that guy should have been blasted right there. It reminded me of a Cannon movie from the eighties. At this point, no amount of gloss the producers could put in there, could mask that is was a really bad movie. I liked the opening thought.

[Mr_Wint]

In any case, Bond killed Elektra King because she made him look like a wimp. I guess Craig's Bond would have killed her within 15mn of meeting her.

Craig's Bond would have killed Elektra after having sex with her, deduce that Renard is working for her, find Renard that same night, kill him as well, then be back at MI6 in time for tea.

Like he did with Vesper...?

The whole point with TWINE is that the supposed leading lady is the actual villain. I've seen some fans speculating at what "Connery's Bond" would do in the the same situation and that's just totally irrelevant IMO. It would be a completely different film if Bond killed Elektra right away.

One common complaint against TWINE is that the Bond-character comes off as being too weak and not smart enough. This is something that I never can agree on. Bond is always 2-3 steps before the viewer in this film. Already at the casino he realizes that Elektra isn't innocent.

[LadySylvia]

Wasn't Elekra about to shoot either Bond or M?

And to kill Elektra without her being an immediate threat . . . isn't that murder?

[WC]

Brosnan shot Elektra King because if he had swatted her across the face, he would've hurt his hand, then wouldn't have been able to face off against Renard later on.

Incidentally, that's why Brosnan never slapped any woman on their bottoms during his tenure as Bond.

[DamnCoffee]

His decision to shoot Vesper

What ? Must have missed that one. When did it happen ?

Eugh what a terrible typo... My strongest apologies

I'll correct the original post...

Wow!
that would have been very odd to see that happen in the movie. Bond just turn around and shoot vesper.
lol. just joking around.

lol

"It Dosent Bother you? Killing those People?"
*BANG!*
"Well I wouldn't be very good at my job if it did."

[Matt_13]

Answer : To finish the bloody movie

Thank you.

[stamper]

Answer : To finish the bloody movie

Thank you.

Wrong answer, because the movie isn't finished. It drags on for 25 mn after that.