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[DanMan]

Figured someone was gonna' start this topic eventually so it might as well be me. Here's how I would rank them...

1- Ultimatum
2- Supremacy
3- Identity

I'd probably say that Identity is the best made film of the series from a traditional point of view, but the other two provide the kind of adrenaline rush that I've never really experienced during a movie before, especially Ultimatum.

[OmarB]

The first two were good, though the second one suffered from the director not being able to get over himself. The third one, I've got a screener copy sitting on my kitchen table at the moment. After a shower and some more food I'll post a review I guess ... yeah, it was a long Saturday, gimmie a break.

[crheath]

Just saw Ultimatum last night. I enjoyed it but not quite as much as the other two. Too much action and not enough emphasis on the story like the first one did. I also didn't care for Bourne going off roofs, flipping in car crashes, then walking away and running.

Still, it's very entertaining and a worthy finale to the series.

[Qwerty]

I'll know after I see the third one--hopefully tonight!

[jaguar007]

Just saw Ultimatum last night. I enjoyed it but not quite as much as the other two. Too much action and not enough emphasis on the story like the first one did. I also didn't care for Bourne going off roofs, flipping in car crashes, then walking away and running.

Still, it's very entertaining and a worthy finale to the series.

Pretty much sums up my view on the movie as well.

[Tarl_Cabot]

Figured someone was gonna' start this topic eventually so it might as well be me. Here's how I would rank them...

1- Ultimatum
2- Supremacy
3- Identity

I'd probably say that Identity is the best made film of the series from a traditional point of view, but the other two provide the kind of adrenaline rush that I've never really experienced during a movie before, especially Ultimatum.

Sounds like a perfect triology if you're ranking each film higher than the previous one, which I also do after 1-2. I hear that the third is all out action but if you look at it like one 6 hr film than U is really the creshendo-the fireworks finale. I love it.We don't need any more 'character work' cuz it's already been taken care of...so now, sit back and enjoy the ride....I'll see it tonight or tommorow and gush all over it like any pathetic fanboy would(I'll pre-emptively apologize for my hyperbole).

I watched Bourne 1 and 2 over the weekend. I like 2 better for it's economical pacing and the action scenes are racheted up a few notches-and Damon looks more convincing with the few added years on his hide.

[dinovelvet]

1. Richard Chamberlain.

That is all.

[Professor Dent]

Figured someone was gonna' start this topic eventually so it might as well be me. Here's how I would rank them...

1- Ultimatum
2- Supremacy
3- Identity

My ranking would be the same. I'm ok with the lack of character development in Ultimatum because the previous two movies did a great job of setting the story up. I do like Tarl's comment of thinking of them as a six hour movie. Now, just to get Ultimatum home on DVD for that marathon.

[Tarl_Cabot]

Tonight Bourne comes home...can't wait.

[The Dove]

Having just seen Ultimatum this morning, (and I REALLY, REALLY loved it!) Here's how I'd rank the films.

1. The Bourne Ultimatum
2. The Bourne Identity
3. The Bourne Supremacy

Tarl, you are going to be in for a treat when you go and see the movie tonight!! The action, fights and stunts are ten times what they were in Supremacy, and yes while the camera is shakey like in Supremacy, it really adds to the action and makes it more believable.. Also, nice to have John Powell back doing the score.. it wouldn't be a proper Jason Bourne movie without Powell!!

[Kilroy6644]

1. Richard Chamberlain.

That is all.

His Marie was hotter than Damon's, too.

[Gobi-1]

1. Ultimatum
2. Supremacy
3. Identity

[LadySylvia]

My ranking:

1. Supremacy

2. Ultimatum

3. Identity

[HildebrandRarity]

You can't possibly rank one movie which has the same soundtrack, no differentiating villians and locations, and fight scenes and chases that are interchangeable. Even the Bourne Girls are the same in each of the three instalments.

The Bourne adventure is a series of three installments comprising one movie.

You can, however, rank the directors and I put Liman ahead of Greengrass who's overkill of hand-held will date his two episodes.

[DLibrasnow]

All three are excellent movies, here is my ranking of them:

1. The Bourne Supremacy
2. The Bourne Identity
3. The Bourne Ultimatum

Also, I am probably in a minority in liking the 3-hour plus Richard Chamberlain television production of the 1980s. Jaclyn Smith was always my favorite of Charlie's Angel's

The Bourne Identity - TV movie

[OmarB]

Just finished watching it and really loved it. Greengrass has his style and it works for him and the material. I think it would be cool for movies to take the approach it too with the action, really hard and in your face.

[Kilroy6644]

Also, I am probably in a minority in liking the 3-hour plus Richard Chamberlain television production of the 1980s. Jaclyn Smith was always my favorite of Charlie's Angel's

I grew up watching it. Dad taped it when it aired. When I first heard that they were making a movie, I made it a point to read the book, then I dug out that old tape and watched it. I really enjoyed it. There was a bit of a WTF moment when I was watching it. A weather alert started scrolling across the bottom of the screen, and I started reading it to see what it said. Then I realized it was (at the time) 13 years old, and a couple hundred miles away.

My list:

• Identity
• Supremacy
• Ultimatum

It looks like I'm bucking the trend here. I put Identity first, because that's the one that set the standard. Supremacy raised the bar, but it was still following Identity's lead. Ultimatum was par for the course, but brought nothing new. There could've been more story development, and there's one scene that could've done without the shakey-cam.

Edited by Kilroy6644, 06 August 2007 - 03:30 AM.

[LadySylvia]

Also, I am probably in a minority in liking the 3-hour plus Richard Chamberlain television production of the 1980s. Jaclyn Smith was always my favorite of Charlie's Angel's

I'm also part of that minority. I have a DVD copy of the 1988 miniseries. I'm a big fan.

[Tarl_Cabot]

Just back from The Bourne Ultimatum...I think I need to see it again before I give it a final answer ranking...had a few beers at the bar before my friends showed up so...not sure what I think. I did enjoy the hell out of it but it wasn't nearly as action packed as advertised;it's fast paced for sure but not nearly so p

[dinovelvet]

Before I can do my ranking, I need some help sorting out the movies. Which was the one where Matt Damon ran like really fast, fought someone in a cramped room, eluded the CIA, agonized about not being able to remember who he was, and had a car chase through some grim-looking city streets? Thanks!

[Tarl_Cabot]

Is that an IQ test question?

[marktmurphy]

You can, however, rank the directors and I put Liman ahead of Greengrass who's overkill of hand-held will date his two episodes.

Maybe, maybe not; but what does it matter? They were made in this decade for the people watching it now- who cares whether it'll look old in twnety years time: of course it will! It's twenty years old! The important thing is; does it work? I say yes- it makes everything feel very viceral and real

Before I can do my ranking, I need some help sorting out the movies. Which was the one where Matt Damon ran like really fast, fought someone in a cramped room, eluded the CIA, agonized about not being able to remember who he was, and had a car chase through some grim-looking city streets? Thanks!

Which was that Mission Impossible movie where Tom Cruise does a daring acrobatic break-in to a top security building to steal an important thing? Y'know- the one where the bad guy turns out to be a spy gone bad. The team have to infiltrate a fancy party too- you remember.
Or that Bond film where Bond goes after a rich guy who has a massive mad plan to kill loads of people- he's got a big lair. Bond meets and seduces two girls, one of which dies, has an overblown chase through a busy city, does some silly bit of acrobatics just before the main titles (you know- the ones with all of the guns and girls in) start, has a friendly helper who gets killed, and manages to end the film kissing a girl by a large area of open water. For some reason. I think he goes to a casino too.

[Loomis]

But really, it plays like a 6 hr movie.

Exactly (I write this without having actually seen ULTIMATUM, although I've obviously read a lot about it and think I have a fair idea as to how it blends with the others). No different to Peter Jackson's LOTR trilogy, really, except that they obviously didn't film the Bourne saga back-to-back.

That said, I do think THE BOURNE IDENTITY stands alone in a way that FELLOWSHIP doesn't. They could have ended it right there.

But, thankfully, they didn't. IDENTITY is still my pick for best Bourne flick, but only by a whisker. SUPREMACY is superb, and I'm sure I'll love ULTIMATUM (especially after the damp squib that was another long-awaited action movie sequel, DIE HARD 4.0).

You can't possibly rank one movie which has the same soundtrack

Yeah, and how weird is it that all of them end with "Extreme Ways"? Still, pretty cool, though.

[dinovelvet]

Before I can do my ranking, I need some help sorting out the movies. Which was the one where Matt Damon ran like really fast, fought someone in a cramped room, eluded the CIA, agonized about not being able to remember who he was, and had a car chase through some grim-looking city streets? Thanks!

Which was that Mission Impossible movie where Tom Cruise does a daring acrobatic break-in to a top security building to steal an important thing? Y'know- the one where the bad guy turns out to be a spy gone bad. The team have to infiltrate a fancy party too- you remember.
Or that Bond film where Bond goes after a rich guy who has a massive mad plan to kill loads of people- he's got a big lair. Bond meets and seduces two girls, one of which dies, has an overblown chase through a busy city, does some silly bit of acrobatics just before the main titles (you know- the ones with all of the guns and girls in) start, has a friendly helper who gets killed, and manages to end the film kissing a girl by a large area of open water. For some reason. I think he goes to a casino too.

Yeah I think that's the one where M is gruff, Bond flirts with Moneypenny, gets that conveniently useful gadget from Q, and has the scene where that colleague/girl is killed about halfway through. Oh I love that one!

[Kilroy6644]

Also, I am probably in a minority in liking the 3-hour plus Richard Chamberlain television production of the 1980s. Jaclyn Smith was always my favorite of Charlie's Angel's

I'm also part of that minority. I have a DVD copy of the 1988 miniseries. I'm a big fan.

It's on DVD?!

[dodge]

Before I can do my ranking, I need some help sorting out the movies. Which was the one where Matt Damon ran like really fast, fought someone in a cramped room, eluded the CIA, agonized about not being able to remember who he was, and had a car chase through some grim-looking city streets? Thanks!

Beautiful. It came as no surprise to me to read in this week's Entertainment Weekly that they still had no finished script when they began shooting BU. They made it up as they went along. Didn't make any difference at all. Brilliantly done--but all already done.

[The Dove]

[quote name='Tarl_Cabot' post='760020' date='6 August 2007 - 00:11']Just back from The Bourne Ultimatum...I think I need to see it again before I give it a final answer ranking...had a few beers at the bar before my friends showed up so...not sure what I think. I did enjoy the hell out of it but it wasn't nearly as action packed as advertised;it's fast paced for sure but not nearly so p

[Tarl_Cabot]

Well, it has alot of action yes, but every review made it sound as though 90% of film was fights and chases and almost no plot and I didn't feel was the case.


If you read the book it would be hard to assign a pre-2000 Matt Damon as Jason Bourne. Bourne in the first book is the age that Damon is now so that's why I thought he was miscast-too young at the time(he looked 25 when he was 30).And Bourne in the books is a really really tortured guy("Cain!!, Carlos!!! Treadstone!!! Medusa!!!,holy crap I'm keep shouting in my head ad nausium for 300 pages!!!....")...anyway, they 're-imagined' the character and Damon fits into movie Bourne perfectly is my original point.

[HildebrandRarity]

You can't possibly rank one movie which has the same soundtrack

Yeah, and how weird is it that all of them end with "Extreme Ways"? Still, pretty cool, though.

After leaving the theatre in 2002 I could hardly wait to get my hands on Extreme Ways and the piece Ready Steady Go for the Mini/police motorbike carchase.

I love Extreme Ways. It brings back memories of 2002.

[The Dove]

I see your points Tarl. Damon is different than the Jason Bourne in the books.. but he definitely works for the movies. Also, you're right about the reviews mostly focusing on the action of the film and not much mention of the fact that there really is a clever plot and interesting twists to the story. Glad you liked the film.. I was a tad concerned at first as to whether or not Ultimatum would feel like a Jason Bourne film, as I was with Live Free or Die Hard. But I can relax now.. Powell's re-using a lot of the same musical themes really helped me to tie all the movies together. Great flick!!