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[SeanDalton77]

I read some were that Dalton was a paulbarer at Cubbys funeral is that true and if so were any other Bond actors there and how close was Dalton to the family

[RazorBlade]

I'm no expert but somewhere on these boards is a pic of Dalton acting as pall bearer at said funeral. I also heard that Sir Sean didn't go. Any truth to that?

[Zorin Industries]

I'm no expert but somewhere on these boards is a pic of Dalton acting as pall bearer at said funeral. I also heard that Sir Sean didn't go. Any truth to that?

Yes, Dalton was indeed the only Bond actor to be a pallbearer at Cubby Broccoli's funeral. And yes, Sean Connery did not attend. He also did not attend Cubby's memorial service a few months later - citing "other commitments" as the reason. If I remember right, on the day of the memorial Connery was on the TV news from Scotland promoting the SNP or some other nostalgic based political group who pines for the "old days".

I may have not got that completely right, but Connery snubbed the Bond family at the time of Cubby's death. But then his behaviour has never been anything less than that. If I was him I would have at least had the courtesy to remember who put me where I am today. And in some respect that was Dana Broccoli who pushed for him as Bond back in 1961 and was the one who saw Connery behave quite childishly when Cubby passed away.

Edited by Zorin Industries, 07 June 2007 - 09:00 AM.

[Royal Dalton]

[Milovy]

Despite his only having gotten to do two movies, and being somewhat uncomfortable with the whole Bond persona thing, it seems to me that Dalton has always been very supportive of the franchise and the Broccoli family. Whatever the exact circumstances of his departure from the role, it seems like it must have been negotiated well by both parties (financially as well as personally - hey, it's a business, too). It's too bad that so many stars and producers allow contractual things to get in the way of civility.

He attended the premiere for "Die Another Day" (is it odd to have a former Bond at a premiere, or not?) - does anyone know if he went to other premieres of Brosnan films?

[plankattack]

Despite his only having gotten to do two movies, and being somewhat uncomfortable with the whole Bond persona thing, it seems to me that Dalton has always been very supportive of the franchise and the Broccoli family. Whatever the exact circumstances of his departure from the role, it seems like it must have been negotiated well by both parties (financially as well as personally - hey, it's a business, too). It's too bad that so many stars and producers allow contractual things to get in the way of civility.

He attended the premiere for "Die Another Day" (is it odd to have a former Bond at a premiere, or not?) - does anyone know if he went to other premieres of Brosnan films?

I think it's even more than that, Milovy. I read somewhere that it's more than a "business relationship, supportive of the franchise etc" TD is in fact on a personal level very good friends with the Broccolis. Kind of puts the whole Bond thing in perspective when you look at it that way.

TD is just a class act, in a very old-school way, always gracious in interviews, enthusiastic and warm. Almost the polar opposite of SC, sometimes.

[doublenoughtspy]

Dalton, Moore, and Brosnan attended Cubby's memorial service.

Dalton didn't attend any other Brosnan premieres.

Regarding former Bond and future Bond attending premieres, apparently Roger did attend a press screening of DAF, and while some touted it that he was there as a guest of Sean Connery's - there isn't any evidence of that.

Zorin, you are not "completely right" - Connery did call Dana with his condolences.

From Broccoli's Biography: "Sean Connery phoned from Europe. He had been Dana's personal choice for the first James Bond. That spontaneous piece of casting in a darkened screening room made him and movie history. Now the man who had made it all a multimillion-dollar reality had died. Sean said with evident sincerity how sorry he was to hear of Cubby's death."

http://www.geocities...li/Broccoli.htm

Where are you getting this "Dana saw him behave quite childishly when Cubby passed away." ?

[Zorin Industries]

Dalton, Moore, and Brosnan attended Cubby's memorial service.

Dalton didn't attend any other Brosnan premieres.

Regarding former Bond and future Bond attending premieres, apparently Roger did attend a press screening of DAF, and while some touted it that he was there as a guest of Sean Connery's - there isn't any evidence of that.

Zorin, you are not "completely right" - Connery did call Dana with his condolences.

From Broccoli's Biography: "Sean Connery phoned from Europe. He had been Dana's personal choice for the first James Bond. That spontaneous piece of casting in a darkened screening room made him and movie history. Now the man who had made it all a multimillion-dollar reality had died. Sean said with evident sincerity how sorry he was to hear of Cubby's death."

http://www.geocities...li/Broccoli.htm

Where are you getting this "Dana saw him behave quite childishly when Cubby passed away." ?

I may have remembered things wrong, but when the memorial service was held in London in November 1996, Connery was asked to either attend or film a small tribute if he couldn't make it. My memory is that Connery ended up doing neither, claiming he was busy abroad. That night on the evening TV news, Connery was in somewhere like Scotland lobbying for the SNP (hence he was in the country).

To what ends Sean Connery went to at that time is between the Broccoli family and him alone. But I know he didn't exactly endear himself to the family at the time. A bit like his "I never want to be associated with Bond again" rants, but how that goes out the window when a big EA Games cheque is waved at him to voice their game version of FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE. Whether the money went to charity or not is not the point. A principle is at stake - and one that Connery quite bullishly made since he left Bond, but has at least twice reneged on in favour of money.

Edited by Zorin Industries, 07 June 2007 - 12:45 PM.

[Milovy]

I don't know if it's necessary to denigrate one Bond actor while appreciating another. (When I mentioned "civility" I was referring to ALL actors and producers...)

Besides, there isn't an actor alive who hasn't had incidents where they could have handled things better or more professionally. As I recall, Dalton had a public dustup with the media around the time of "Scarlett" where some thought he wasn't behaving terribly like a gentleman. But all these things generally turn out to be water under the bridge in the end, and nobody even remembers them most of the time.

I don't know the background of Connery's problems with the Broccolis, but as is usual with these things, it probably involved contractual disputes. "Money changes everything" no matter what sort of personality you have.

[doublenoughtspy]

I don't know the background of Connery's problems with the Broccolis, but as is usual with these things, it probably involved contractual disputes. "Money changes everything" no matter what sort of personality you have.

I agree 100%. If you read Broccoli's bio - Sean did some very unselfish things for the family - even giving up his bed one night on a very hot location shoot in Japan so a young Barbara could fight a fever.

But on the money issue Sean was upset that he was never made a partner, and I doubt that hurt ever left.

He was particulary mad that because of better profit participation - people like Dean Martin and James Coburn made much more money on their spoofs than he EVER did on the real thing. Kind of ironic isn't it?

I know he said after Cubby died that they had well known differences but had recently made peace.

Was it a shame that neither Connery nor Lazenby were at the funeral or memorial service? Yes.

But the press played up the feud, and in all the coverage I saw - concentrated entirely on the Bond actors - rather than the man who was being honored - Cubby Broccoli.

[David Schofield]

Without wanting to continue the Connery bashing, and not to dispute what doublenought has speculated about Connery's private expression of grief to the Brocoli's over Cubby's death, has Sean EVER gone on public record as thanking Cubby for his contribution to his - Connery's - career?

[doublenoughtspy]

Without wanting to continue the Connery bashing, and not to dispute what doublenought has speculated about Connery's private expression of grief to the Brocoli's over Cubby's death, has Sean EVER gone on public record as thanking Cubby for his contribution to his - Connery's - career?

I'm not sure.

Connery usually praises Terence Young - and I know he did attend Young's memorial service.

[Mister Asterix]

Without wanting to continue the Connery bashing, and not to dispute what doublenought has speculated about Connery's private expression of grief to the Brocoli's over Cubby's death, has Sean EVER gone on public record as thanking Cubby for his contribution to his - Connery's - career?

Interesting that this post completely ignores Harry Saltzman.

[doublenoughtspy]

Interesting that this post completely ignores Harry Saltzman.

Standard Operating Procedure these days.

Cubby is deified. Harry is forgotten.

[David Schofield]

Interesting that this post completely ignores Harry Saltzman.

Standard Operating Procedure these days.

Cubby is deified. Harry is forgotten.

Well, I for one wasn't deifying Cubby - and I'm sure that most CBners are intelligent enought not to, also. I'm sure you would accept that.

But if you prefer I'll rephrase my original question - has Sean Connery EVER gone on public record thanking Cubby AND FOR THAT MATTER HARRY SALTZMAN for their contribution to his career?

[Mister Asterix]

Interesting that this post completely ignores Harry Saltzman.

Standard Operating Procedure these days.

Cubby is deified. Harry is forgotten.

Well, I for one wasn't deifying Cubby - and I'm sure that most CBners are intelligent enought not to, also. I'm sure you would accept that.

But if you prefer I'll rephrase my original question - has Sean Connery EVER gone on public record thanking Cubby AND FOR THAT MATTER HARRY SALTZMAN for their contribution to his career?

Sorry, DS. Wasn’t really trying to single you out. But I was more noting that the Saltz gets denied his props on a regular basis. In Connery’s time Harry and Cubs were at least portrayed as equals in the franchise. And dns is correct; many times Harry’s contributions are simply forgotten.

[doublenoughtspy]

Well, I for one wasn't deifying Cubby - and I'm sure that most CBners are intelligent enought not to, also. I'm sure you would accept that.

But if you prefer I'll rephrase my original question - has Sean Connery EVER gone on public record thanking Cubby AND FOR THAT MATTER HARRY SALTZMAN for their contribution to his career?

I wasn't trying to single you out either DS, and while I hope that most people realize that Eon was a partnership for all 6 of Sean's films, George's film, and 2 of Roger's - you wouldn't know it from looking at most of the discussions on CBn.

Cubby was more personable, gave more interviews, and continued the franchise - so there are all kinds of reasons why he is on people's minds rather than Harry. But I'm saddened when people ignore Harry's contributions.

But back to the whole "Did Connery ever acknlowdge Eon's contribution to his career?"

Sean had 25 film and TV credits before Dr No, he had headlined a Disney movie, he wasn't plucked from complete obscurity like Lazenby.

Do I wish that Connery was more gracious about what Eon did for him? Yes.

But Eon made millions with Connery and Connery made millions from Eon.

[Santa]

While I find it hard to appreciate Sean Connery outside of Bond, I think most people would look grumpy in comparison to Roger Moore. The man is so very gracious, warm and personable that Sean doesn't have much of a chance to look good next to him. He's a different type of personality and Roger's strengths particularly serve to highlight Sean's weaknesses. I think next to other men SC wouldn't come off quite so badly. Does that make sense?

[Turn]

While I find it hard to appreciate Sean Connery outside of Bond, I think most people would look grumpy in comparison to Roger Moore. The man is so very gracious, warm and personable that Sean doesn't have much of a chance to look good next to him. He's a different type of personality and Roger's strengths particularly serve to highlight Sean's weaknesses. I think next to other men SC wouldn't come off quite so badly. Does that make sense?

Good observation.

There are a lot of things we may not know of that Connery, Lazenby or any of the other Bond actors have done anonymously such as contribute money to charities or help somebody in need. Too often I see celebrities and those with money get slammed merely for having it. There may be more than we know.

I saw an instance in a publication I work on that mentioned one such case. A guy was taking a bicycle ride and noticed a group working for charity. The man stopped and asked somebody what was going on. When he found out, the man gave handed them a wad of money, $250 or $500 or so and rode off. The people working were trying to recover from the shock that the donor was Paul McCartney.

[SeanDalton77]

i think i may have started something here

[RazorBlade]

While I find it hard to appreciate Sean Connery outside of Bond, I think most people would look grumpy in comparison to Roger Moore. The man is so very gracious, warm and personable that Sean doesn't have much of a chance to look good next to him. He's a different type of personality and Roger's strengths particularly serve to highlight Sean's weaknesses. I think next to other men SC wouldn't come off quite so badly. Does that make sense?

To keep things light let's remember that RM was a "saint" lol while Sean was Bond; a killer who wouldn't go to your funeral unless he suspected that you were still alive and attending the service dressed as your widow.

[Milovy]

I'm not sure how this thread became a Sean Connery thread. Maybe it should be taken to the Sean Connery board.