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[mase_rocks]

I'm just wondering which Bond movie would need a remake the most.
Which story would be the worthiest to make a remake and if, who should direct it!?!

[Skudor]

Twisting the question a bit, I would argue that Die Another Day is the most worthy of a remake, seeing as it was generall the worst made movie and therefore in need of improvement.

[doublenoughtspy]

Why not remake a remake and remake NSNA?

[Santa]

In a way I'd be happy to see remakes of any of them, simply because it means more Bond. However I dread the odious comparisons, that would be truly awful. What I'd like to see is the unused Fleming material from books such as LALD, MR etc., but giving the films different titles to avoid such comparisons.

[triviachamp]

Why not remake a remake and remake NSNA?

Are you McClory's heir?

They should call it Never Remake Thunderball Again or The Last Remake of Thunderball.

[dodge]

OHMSS: though I still love the original, a remake with a great not a good Bond would be still more spectacular. And it would pave the way for another remake, this one offering the closure we missed the last time.

[Santa]

OHMSS: though I still love the original, a remake with a great not a good Bond would be still more spectacular. And it would pave the way for another remake, this one offering the closure we missed the last time.

Ooooh, controversial!

[doublenoughtspy]

OHMSS: though I still love the original, a remake with a great not a good Bond would be still more spectacular. And it would pave the way for another remake, this one offering the closure we missed the last time.

I don't have to work with a blasphemer.

[darkpath]

My personal pick would be You Only Live Twice.

• Because of it being out of sequence from the books, we missed out on the whole revenge story
• The original made far too much use of rear projection instead of actually filming the actors on location
• Tiger Tanaka's "ninja" didn't actually use any real ninjutsu!!!

As you might have guessed, I am no fan of rear projection. To me, it looks worse than the excessive CGI of the Brosnan era.

A clip from Shinobi No Mono to see what authenticity would look like.

[Judo chop]

My personal pick would be You Only Live Twice.

• Because of it being out of sequence from the books, we missed out on the whole revenge story
• The original made far too much use of rear projection instead of actually filming the actors on location
• Tiger Tanaka's "ninja" didn't actually use any real ninjutsu!!!

As you might have guessed, I am no fan of rear projection. To me, it looks worse than the excessive CGI of the Brosnan era.

You beat me to my pick, Darkpath. Not only is YOLT the film I would most like to have remade, it

[dodge]

[quote name='Judo chop' post='709409' date='6 March 2007 - 19:02'][quote name='darkpath' post='709406' date='6 March 2007 - 12:53']My personal pick would be You Only Live Twice.

• Because of it being out of sequence from the books, we missed out on the whole revenge story
• The original made far too much use of rear projection instead of actually filming the actors on location
• Tiger Tanaka's "ninja" didn't actually use any real ninjutsu!!!

As you might have guessed, I am no fan of rear projection. To me, it looks worse than the excessive CGI of the Brosnan era.[/quote]
You beat me to my pick, Darkpath. Not only is YOLT the film I would most like to have remade, it

[Judo chop]

[quote name='dodge' post='709411' date='6 March 2007 - 13:08'][quote name='Judo chop' post='709409' date='6 March 2007 - 19:02'][quote name='darkpath' post='709406' date='6 March 2007 - 12:53']My personal pick would be You Only Live Twice.

• Because of it being out of sequence from the books, we missed out on the whole revenge story
• The original made far too much use of rear projection instead of actually filming the actors on location
• Tiger Tanaka's "ninja" didn't actually use any real ninjutsu!!!

As you might have guessed, I am no fan of rear projection. To me, it looks worse than the excessive CGI of the Brosnan era.[/quote]
You beat me to my pick, Darkpath. Not only is YOLT the film I would most like to have remade, it

[jaguar007]

YOLT is the one I would like to see follow the book. MR would be in second place.

[Santa]

"Memoirs from a Judo chop: one man's awakening" will be released within the week!

Your awakening? I feel a bit scared...

[dodge]

[quote name='Judo chop' post='709419' date='6 March 2007 - 19:52'][quote name='dodge' post='709411' date='6 March 2007 - 13:08'][quote name='Judo chop' post='709409' date='6 March 2007 - 19:02'][quote name='darkpath' post='709406' date='6 March 2007 - 12:53']My personal pick would be You Only Live Twice.

• Because of it being out of sequence from the books, we missed out on the whole revenge story
• The original made far too much use of rear projection instead of actually filming the actors on location
• Tiger Tanaka's "ninja" didn't actually use any real ninjutsu!!!

As you might have guessed, I am no fan of rear projection. To me, it looks worse than the excessive CGI of the Brosnan era.[/quote]
You beat me to my pick, Darkpath. Not only is YOLT the film I would most like to have remade, it

[Judo chop]

Wow: Memoirs from a Judo Chop! I, who am the greatest tease, cannot bear waiting for Christmas. My attempts to find out who has bought me what, and where it's been hidden, are the stuff of legend. Luckily, I also know that writing is most re-writing and wiping off the beads of sweat that fall where one has slaved. I hope your bron-thesaurus, Bad Hat Harry, is doing well.

Being the docile, green-eater that it is, a BRONtosaur would not do for such a task.

I needed a meat-eating Conneryavore.

[Qwerty]

Casino Royale'67

This time try it with ten directors.

[MarkA]

As you might have guessed, I am no fan of rear projection. To me, it looks worse than the excessive CGI of the Brosnan era.

Though I agree with you about YOLT because it is such a great book and a missed opportunity I disagree with you about

[darkpath]

[quote name='MarkA' post='709507' date='6 March 2007 - 17:38'][quote]As you might have guessed, I am no fan of rear projection. To me, it looks worse than the excessive CGI of the Brosnan era.[/quote]
Though I agree with you about YOLT because it is such a great book and a missed opportunity I disagree with you about

[Double-Oh-Zero]

The Man With the Golden Gun.

I'd love to see Bond's assassination attempt on M from the novel's beginning as the precredits sequence this time around. Yes, I enjoy the original in all it's daft, tacky glory, but a more serious take on it would be interesting. There's not much of a story that can be adapted from the original novel, but I'm sure they could draw something from the storyline of Bond 22 to make a trilogy of sorts (if Craig decides to do only 3). With casting, they could go one of two ways: Steve Buscemi as the sleazier Scaramanga from the novel, or David Carradine as the more charismatic, charming Francisco that's more in line with the Lee version. Fight scene between Craig and a midget and incidental stuffing of said midget into some carry-on luggage during the finale is optional, but it'd be real funny, like.

My second choice would be Live an Let Die. Again, the original is fine, but it'd be nice to see another interpretation of the story without the undeniable blaxpoitation overtones, 32 chases, and inflatable villain (as amusing as that was). The original is probably the weirdest of the series, given that it's not sure whether it wants to be a darker story rooted in black magic or a chase film, but Craig seems like the right type to feature in a moody, voodoo-based Bond film. Get Morgan Freeman and Michael Clarke Duncan to play Mr. Big and Baron Samedi, switch the locale from the Carribbean to Africa, and Bob's yer uncle.

[Binyamin]

The Man With The Golden Gun.

Elements of this movie are brilliant but unfortunately overshadowed by its campy nature. Roger Moore shows some fantastic dark-side acting (who knew!).

Think of it: Two highly-trained assassins playing cat and mouse around the world... both admire the other's work yet neither will flinch....

TMWTGG is also one of the few movies where Bond actually does some detective work. It would be nice to see it done correctly, darker, more realistic.


UPDATE: Damn you Double-Oh-Zero! Great minds think alike

Edited by Binyamin, 06 March 2007 - 11:29 PM.

[tdalton]

The Man With The Golden Gun.

Elements of this movie are brilliant but unfortunately overshadowed by its campy nature. Roger Moore shows some fantastic dark-side acting (who knew!).

Think of it: Two highly-trained assassins playing cat and mouse around the world... both admire the other's work yet neither will flinch....

TMWTGG is also one of the few movies where Bond actually does some detective work. It would be nice to see it done correctly, darker, more realistic.


UPDATE: Damn you Double-Oh-Zero! Great minds think alike

I think that The Man With The Golden Gun would also be the film that needs to be remade the most. I like the idea of having Bond and Scaramanga playing a game of cat and mouse all over the world, like you said, and I think that it would be great to see the tension escalate between the two until one of them gets the best of the other. I also would like to see the opening of the book filmed as well, perhaps as an introduction to the Bond that follows Craig.

[Bondian]

Casino Royale'67

This time try it with ten directors.

Agreed. And have all six official Bonds as James Bond.

I agree with Roger Moore when he says that "all Bond movies are a re-write of the last". Of course, Casino Royale broke the mould margionally, but not completely.

[Zorin Industries]

Personally, I think the series will be doomed if it starts official remakes. You don't come 21 films down the line to start treading warm paths...

[plankattack]

The Man With The Golden Gun.

Elements of this movie are brilliant but unfortunately overshadowed by its campy nature. Roger Moore shows some fantastic dark-side acting (who knew!).

Think of it: Two highly-trained assassins playing cat and mouse around the world... both admire the other's work yet neither will flinch....

TMWTGG is also one of the few movies where Bond actually does some detective work. It would be nice to see it done correctly, darker, more realistic.


UPDATE: Damn you Double-Oh-Zero! Great minds think alike

Agreed. And working in Double-Oh-Zero plot points from the novel would make for tight, thriller, clash of two killers, film-noirish movie. Echoes of Bond v Grant etc. And if DC were still Bond, I think the relationship between hero and villain would make for compelling viewing.

When it comes to unfilmed material, I still feel that YOLT is the real missed opportunity. Garden of Death, come on, someone explain to me why that still has appeared on screen. Scandalous!

Edited by plankattack, 07 March 2007 - 02:24 PM.

[dodge]

Wow: Memoirs from a Judo Chop! I, who am the greatest tease, cannot bear waiting for Christmas. My attempts to find out who has bought me what, and where it's been hidden, are the stuff of legend. Luckily, I also know that writing is most re-writing and wiping off the beads of sweat that fall where one has slaved. I hope your bron-thesaurus, Bad Hat Harry, is doing well.

Being the docile, green-eater that it is, a BRONtosaur would not do for such a task.

I needed a meat-eating Conneryavore.

Just beware the dreaded Brozzabore and all will be well.

[Skudor]

In a way I'd be happy to see remakes of any of them, simply because it means more Bond. However I dread the odious comparisons, that would be truly awful. What I'd like to see is the unused Fleming material from books such as LALD, MR etc., but giving the films different titles to avoid such comparisons.

Same here. It has been done to some extent of course (e.g. Moonraker material has been used in movies other than Moonraker, although I can't be bothered to give any examples at the moment...).

I would like to see remakes of the less 'true to the book' movies that take a differen approach, perhaps closer to the source.

OHMSS: though I still love the original, a remake with a great not a good Bond would be still more spectacular. And it would pave the way for another remake, this one offering the closure we missed the last time.

Never. Please. Never.

[dodge]

In a way I'd be happy to see remakes of any of them, simply because it means more Bond. However I dread the odious comparisons, that would be truly awful. What I'd like to see is the unused Fleming material from books such as LALD, MR etc., but giving the films different titles to avoid such comparisons.

Same here. It has been done to some extent of course (e.g. Moonraker material has been used in movies other than Moonraker, although I can't be bothered to give any examples at the moment...).

I would like to see remakes of the less 'true to the book' movies that take a differen approach, perhaps closer to the source.

OHMSS: though I still love the original, a remake with a great not a good Bond would be still more spectacular. And it would pave the way for another remake, this one offering the closure we missed the last time.

Never. Please. Never.

Let me clarify: 'another remake' refers to YOLT. The Connery film was shot out of sequence, depriving fans of the closure a faithful version would have offered. Many members yearn for the real YOLT. But I see no way to have that without remaking OHMSS. Too many years have passed since then, leaving too many blanks for new viewers to fill in. OHMSS is a brilliant film--one of my top three--with a wonderful performance by Lazenby. I'd hate to see his thunder stolen. But YOLT would mean nothing without the history and emotional context provided by OHMSS.

[Skudor]

B22 could effectly be YOLT.... instead of going after Blofeld for Tracy's death he goes after 'nameless organisation' for Vesper's death.

[Zorin Industries]

In a way I'd be happy to see remakes of any of them, simply because it means more Bond. However I dread the odious comparisons, that would be truly awful. What I'd like to see is the unused Fleming material from books such as LALD, MR etc., but giving the films different titles to avoid such comparisons.

Same here. It has been done to some extent of course (e.g. Moonraker material has been used in movies other than Moonraker, although I can't be bothered to give any examples at the moment...).

I would like to see remakes of the less 'true to the book' movies that take a differen approach, perhaps closer to the source.

OHMSS: though I still love the original, a remake with a great not a good Bond would be still more spectacular. And it would pave the way for another remake, this one offering the closure we missed the last time.

Never. Please. Never.

Let me clarify: 'another remake' refers to YOLT. The Connery film was shot out of sequence, depriving fans of the closure a faithful version would have offered. Many members yearn for the real YOLT. But I see no way to have that without remaking OHMSS. Too many years have passed since then, leaving too many blanks for new viewers to fill in. OHMSS is a brilliant film--one of my top three--with a wonderful performance by Lazenby. I'd hate to see his thunder stolen. But YOLT would mean nothing without the history and emotional context provided by OHMSS.

Has anyone stopped to think whether or not the public want this? I think it would sound the death-knell for BOND on screen. If reasoning such as "that was a bit campy", "that missed out that bit" and "that ignored the chronology of whatever" was followed, then EVERY Bond film would be ripe for the rehauling. How on earth would the series evolve to a point where 007 the character was cinematically relevant? Daniel Craig has not given Bond a refreshing burst of iconography and cultural importance to waste that momentum on a fan-pleasing remake.

The films are what they are at that time. The 007 series has more at stake than Fleming's chronology of the books. Why remake LIVE AND LET DIE to rid the blaxploitation overtones when the film came out at the peak of that filmic movement and has its cultural place accordingly?! The films have been interpreted as they were at the time. Let's not pretend Fleming's characters, nuances and cultural commentary is akin to Shakespeare, Austen or Dickens - and hence ripe for re-imagining once a decade.

Edited by Zorin Industries, 07 March 2007 - 03:53 PM.