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Is Ruby's Accent in OHMSS a Class Thing?


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#1 R. Dittmar

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 02:16 AM

There is something that I've always wondered about concerning OHMSS and, as a Yank, I've never known how to confirm my suspicions.

Does Ruby

#2 Vauxhall

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 04:38 AM

Not impoverished necessarily. She's simply from Morecambe in northern England. Don't know why the writers chose to make Ruby from that particular area, but I don't see any particularly negative connotations. In my opinion, it just shows that people from a wide social background were chosen by Blofeld for the allergy clinic in the movie.

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 05:22 AM

Interesting question. Unfortunately, I'm neither an expert on accents nor from England, so I doubt I'd be able to give much insight on this. One thing though, I always found her physical appearance to be rather interesting. With her glasses and hair, she seemed a tad more bookwormy then the rest of the patients. Whether or not the accent might gel with that look and form something of a stereotype of a region of Britain... well I guess I'll just have to leave that to the rest of the Cbn'ers here to figure out.

#4 Zorin Industries

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 11:10 AM

No, it's not a class thing at all. She's from Morecambe and has a Morecambe accent. It's an issue of dialect like the Texan drawl.

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 12:29 PM

Since it looks like my theory may have come a bit of a cropper, let me elaborate in hopes of salvaging some part of it.

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 01:00 PM

I found her accent to be very much of its time. The way people in England speak now is very different to how they spoke even then, not that long ago. I think I would class her accent as old-fashioned or dated more than anything else.

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 02:35 PM

I found her accent to be very much of its time. The way people in England speak now is very different to how they spoke even then, not that long ago. I think I would class her accent as old-fashioned or dated more than anything else.


I don't think so. Some regional accents have begun to gradually disappear but the Lancastrian one is still very much alive. It wouldn't be unusual to meet someone with Ruby's accent.

I think it's meant to convey a certain earthiness, in contrast to Blofeld's sterile lab/hq/revolving restaurant. I don't think we're meant to feel that Ruby is an inferior.

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 09:34 PM

Ruby's voice added a bit of comedy to her part, which I think is the main reason for it.

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 10:08 PM

Not impoverished necessarily. She's simply from Morecambe in northern England.


I spent 6 years living in Morecambe Bay, and Ruby's accent at least mirrors 95% of would you could expect to hear there. It's certainly not a posh dialect though.

I've always been proud of the fact Morecambe has been mentioned in a Bond film.

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Posted 28 January 2007 - 03:00 PM

She was so sexy ! She's Tara King (The Avengers) look-a-like doesn't she ?

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Posted 28 January 2007 - 10:45 PM

She was so sexy !

"It's true!"

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Posted 28 January 2007 - 11:07 PM

You'll also find that Countess Lisl in FYEO has a similar accent, being as she is, from Liverpool, not too far from Morecambe.

It's nice to have a real Northern accent in a movie - there are more people in England who talk in a Northern accent than, say, Hugh Grant's accent.

Bear in mind that Daniel Craig is a Northern lad, but is not using his own accent for the part of Bond.

Famous Northerners include:- The Beatles, Rowan Atkinson, Ridley Scott, Daniel Craig, Sean Bean, Sting, Bobby Charlton, Stan Laurel, Julie Walters, Def Leppard, Whitesnake, Robert Palmer.

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Posted 28 January 2007 - 11:23 PM

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 04:14 PM

she is also the great leslie philips wife in real life...in the book a similar girl is from manchester...prompting bond to think... good old manchester...which makes this mancunian expat happy at the namecheck

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 05:40 PM

She was so sexy !

"It's true!"


Was and is.

For some reason she is the one I keep my eyes on during those girl scenes in OHMSS.

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 06:30 PM

Not impoverished necessarily. She's simply from Morecambe in northern England.


I spent 6 years living in Morecambe Bay, and Ruby's accent at least mirrors 95% of would you could expect to hear there. It's certainly not a posh dialect though.

I've always been proud of the fact Morecambe has been mentioned in a Bond film.


Indeed. Years ago, Victoria Wood once joked that if the Russians ever nuked Morecambe, they'd have caused around

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 06:34 PM

You'll also find that Countess Lisl in FYEO has a similar accent, being as she is, from Liverpool, not too far from Morecambe.

It's nice to have a real Northern accent in a movie - there are more people in England who talk in a Northern accent than, say, Hugh Grant's accent.

Bear in mind that Daniel Craig is a Northern lad, but is not using his own accent for the part of Bond.

Famous Northerners include:- The Beatles, Rowan Atkinson, Ridley Scott, Daniel Craig, Sean Bean, Sting, Bobby Charlton, Stan Laurel, Julie Walters, Def Leppard, Whitesnake, Robert Palmer.


Thanks to you and Zorin for straightening a few of us out on this score. It all seems a lot simpler here in the States, whereas in London I was told that accents could change within blocks. And that native Londoners could tell a man's class with their eyes closed. True confession time, though: I thought Def Leppard was a Southern rock group.

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 07:50 PM

And that native Londoners could tell a man's class with their eyes closed.

Class as a concept has changed an awful lot in Britain in the last 50 years, and the fact that anyone would even try to judge a person's 'class' by an accent tells us more about the one doing the judging than the one being judged. Oh, and native Londoners are often full of [censored].

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 10:38 PM

Class as a concept has changed an awful lot in Britain in the last 50 years, and the fact that anyone would even try to judge a person's 'class' by an accent tells us more about the one doing the judging than the one being judged. Oh, and native Londoners are often full of ......


LOL...!!!

#20 dee-bee-five

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 11:12 AM

And that native Londoners could tell a man's class with their eyes closed.

Class as a concept has changed an awful lot in Britain in the last 50 years, and the fact that anyone would even try to judge a person's 'class' by an accent tells us more about the one doing the judging than the one being judged.



Sadly, you're right. The move to a classless society, particularly under the loathesome Blair, has merely resulted in a country of chavs. Some of us try to maintain the proper standards of snobbery, though :cooltongue:.

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 01:01 PM

And that native Londoners could tell a man's class with their eyes closed.

Class as a concept has changed an awful lot in Britain in the last 50 years, and the fact that anyone would even try to judge a person's 'class' by an accent tells us more about the one doing the judging than the one being judged.



Sadly, you're right. The move to a classless society, particularly under the loathesome Blair, has merely resulted in a country of chavs. Some of us try to maintain the proper standards of snobbery, though :cooltongue: .



Indeed. I'm generally considered 'very posh'. If only they knew...

#22 Bon-san

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 02:33 PM

She was so sexy !

"It's true!"


Was and is.



Yes, she still looked amazing on the OHMSS doco originally released on the SE dvd.

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 03:00 PM

Ruby's always been one of the most overlooked Bond girls. She's sexy as hell and the accent is a big part of that.

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 05:04 PM

Ruby's always been one of the most overlooked Bond girls. She's sexy as hell and the accent is a big part of that.


Also she was so forward with 007. That was HAWT! That lipstick was inspiring.

I think sometimes it's fantastic for our wives, or girlfriends to be so blatant about it. :cooltongue: Why can't my wife write on my thigh?

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 10:12 PM

Also she was so forward with 007.


That's what English lasses are like. It's not so long ago in my hometown, that groups of men were able to shout across the street to ask a group of ladies to reveal their breasts, and they would.

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Posted 31 January 2007 - 10:36 PM

lol whereabouts in the uk did you live and her accent sounds really strange to me and am from not that far from morecambe

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Posted 31 January 2007 - 10:51 PM

Well, I am from Newcastle, but I also lived in Sheffield, Germany, London and now Sydney.

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Posted 01 February 2007 - 12:15 PM

Well, I am from Newcastle, but I also lived in Sheffield, Germany, London and now Sydney.


oh newcastle that explains it :cooltongue:

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 02:48 AM

Ruby's always been one of the most overlooked Bond girls. She's sexy as hell and the accent is a big part of that.


Also she was so forward with 007. That was HAWT! That lipstick was inspiring.

I think sometimes it's fantastic for our wives, or girlfriends to be so blatant about it. :cooltongue: Why can't my wife write on my thigh?


Probably because she knows that's exactly what you want her to do. Women like us men to do all the work in this regard. That way they can accuse us of having one track minds (which may be true). The thing that annoys me is that when we make love to them, they seem to enjoy just as much as we do!!! Or is that just my over-active imagination.

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 04:57 PM

The thing that annoys me is that when we make love to them, they seem to enjoy just as much as we do!!! Or is that just my over-active imagination.

Depends how good you are. Or aren't?