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[db077]

I need a feasible explanation about LeChiifre's scarred eye and how it may have happened. I was hoping some of you may be able to give me some ideas. I'm writing a fanfic and want to reveal a little history behind the mysterious LeChiffre.

Did it happen when he was young?
Was it the result of an accident?
Did one of his clients get revenge for a bad deal?

What's your thoughts?

Thanks!

db077

[Genrewriter]

My guess would be that it's a very rare (not to mention amazingly inconvenient) medical condition.

[capungo]

Your guess is as good as mine. I'm pretty sure the leaky tear duct is just a medical condition, but the scar... hmm... how about the result of one of the first terrorist attacks he was working on that went wrong, like a bomb that misfired, maybe at a stock market perhaps. I'm sure you've got better ideas DB077. Good luck on the fanfic though, be sure to touch on his poker obssession

[Asim]

its possiblethat it could be cornea scarring (I'm an optometry student by the way!)

[Blofeld's Cat]

This condition could have been elaborated on more in the movie, I feel. I'm almost sure that the scar seems to change shape a couple of times throughout the movie too.

[HildebrandRarity]

The leaking tear duct is a result of torture Le Chiffre suffered as a young accountant while working for the ruling communist family in Albania in 1990.

He accumulated a small fortune by redirecting tiny percentages of the ruthless family's money into a Cayman Island bank account he had set up for himself hoping the family would remain oblivious over the years.

His underhandedness finaly caught up. He vehemently denied any wrong doing but they beat him severely, letting him live in the end only because he was a talented mathematician with a good eye for an investment which he'd used to enhance the ruling family's wealth 'legitimately'.

The scaring is a result of optical surgery Le Chiffre underwent in Cuba in order to gain his eyesight back after the severe bashing he took to the head during the torture session.

Hope that helps.

;-)

[bond_girl_double07]

The leaking tear duct is a result of torture Le Chiffre suffered as a young accountant while working for the ruling communist family in Albania in 1990.

He accumulated a small fortune by redirecting tiny percentages of the ruthless family's money into a Cayman Island bank account he had set up for himself hoping the family would remain oblivious over the years.

His underhandedness finaly caught up. He vehemently denied any wrong doing but they beat him severely, letting him live in the end only because he was a talented mathematician with a good eye for an investment which he'd used to enhance the ruling family's wealth 'legitimately'.

The scaring is a result of optical surgery Le Chiffre underwent in Cuba in order to gain his eyesight back after the severe bashing he took to the head during the torture session.

Hope that helps.

;-)

You made that all up right HR? I don't think Fleming's description includes background info does it??? Hmmmm...

[JackWade]

The leaking tear duct is a result of torture Le Chiffre suffered as a young accountant while working for the ruling communist family in Albania in 1990.

He accumulated a small fortune by redirecting tiny percentages of the ruthless family's money into a Cayman Island bank account he had set up for himself hoping the family would remain oblivious over the years.

His underhandedness finaly caught up. He vehemently denied any wrong doing but they beat him severely, letting him live in the end only because he was a talented mathematician with a good eye for an investment which he'd used to enhance the ruling family's wealth 'legitimately'.

The scaring is a result of optical surgery Le Chiffre underwent in Cuba in order to gain his eyesight back after the severe bashing he took to the head during the torture session.

Hope that helps.

;-)

You made that all up right HR? I don't think Fleming's description includes background info does it??? Hmmmm...

It might come from the CR website, but that's just a guess. If not, he did a good job of making it up.

[db077]

Thank you, HildebrandRarity! That's an interesting scenario!

There's not a lot in the description in the book that has carried over into the movie. Except the inhaler, and the math whiz part.

Thanks for the other ideas, too. Any others? I won't be getting to this part for a little while, so if you come up with something let me know!

[HildebrandRarity]

Thank you, HildebrandRarity! That's an interesting scenario!

Thanks for the other ideas, too. Any others? I won't be getting to this part for a little while, so if you come up with something let me know!

Will I get a credit and a percentage of gross*?



(*) I only work on a percentage of gross, not net.







;-)

p.s.

Did you notice the "good eye for an investment" bit?

LOL

[james st.john smythe]

when i was at school smelly Richarson put his own eye out in an unfortunate air rifle accident. maybe mr le chiffre did the same when he was a young man.

[bond_girl_double07]

when i was at school smelly Richarson put his own eye out in an unfortunate air rifle accident. maybe mr le chiffre did the same when he was a young man.

what was that quote from Le Chiffre about his eye during the first poker game on the boat? Merely a something something something, I don't remember what he said...

I agree with James St. John, that eye could almost be fake..

[db077]

when i was at school smelly Richarson put his own eye out in an unfortunate air rifle accident. maybe mr le chiffre did the same when he was a young man.

what was that quote from Le Chiffre about his eye during the first poker game on the boat? Merely a something something something, I don't remember what he said...

I agree with James St. John, that eye could almost be fake..

"It's simply a derangement of the tear duct...nothing sinister." Or something like that.

[bond_girl_double07]

"Weeping blood comes merely from a derangement of the tear duct - nothing sinister"

So it sounds like he's blaming a natural defect.. is the scar on the same eye that cries blood or the other one?

Update: Google says same eye (the left.. our right).. I doubt that a scar of that size and weeping blood are unrelated Somebody jacked Le Chiffre's eye up

[db077]

A friend of mine had a few amusing theories:

- His inhaler blew up in his face.

- He was beat up on the playground as a kid because he wouldn't do the bully's math homework.

- He got a Red Ryder BB gun for Christmas and put his eye out with it.

- He was running with scissors.

[bond_girl_double07]

Just out of curiosity, is anybody else devoting a little bit of extra mental attention to Le Chiffre after seeing the movie? There's something about the character (and the way Mads plays the character) that captivates me more than any Bond villain (I think) since Pleasance's Blofeld.. Usually I either hate the villain (for hurting James ) or just don't care. Le Chiffre is so well-rounded that I'm really becomming fond of him

Anybody else with me on this? Curious about his background or motives?

Ohhhh and db007, I just ordered "Flickering Lights" from my library, so hopefully that'll get here soon (more Mads yay!)

[00Twelve]

Yes, I understand your growing like for Le Chiffre. Making the villain vulnerable and human certainly goes a long way.

[bond_girl_double07]

Yes, I understand your growing like for Le Chiffre. Making the villain vulnerable and human certainly goes a long way.

Agreed..

I think in once sense, he's very successful and powerful. Obviously his math skills and ingenuity have taken him a long way (big Yacht, international "clients", smokin' hot girlfriend), but I think there's a side to him that's always over-stretching his limits. In both the novel and the film, he starts out at the end of his rope, so to speak, but how did a mathematically genius get to that point? He seems like a character that is always compensating for something that happened earlier, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if he were an orphan too (not that he and Bond are foils or anything, I just think Mads brings something kind of sad and dependent to the character).

Anyway, well done Mads, I can't wait to reread the book to brush up on Fleming's view of the character (in that article I found a few weeks ago, Mads admitted that he didn't read the book beforehand - purposely.. it'll be interesting to see the difference in the presentation).

[db077]

Just out of curiosity, is anybody else devoting a little bit of extra mental attention to Le Chiffre after seeing the movie? There's something about the character (and the way Mads plays the character) that captivates me more than any Bond villain (I think) since Pleasance's Blofeld.. Usually I either hate the villain (for hurting James ) or just don't care. Le Chiffre is so well-rounded that I'm really becomming fond of him

Anybody else with me on this? Curious about his background or motives?

Ohhhh and db007, I just ordered "Flickering Lights" from my library, so hopefully that'll get here soon (more Mads yay!)

You go, Bond Girl!! Flickering Lights is a great movie! Very funny! I love Mads character, Arne! He just cracks me up!

AS far as LeChiffre...I had thought maybe it was just me because I'm such a fan of Mads, I'm glad to see LeChiffre (and Mads) has captured the attention of others, as well.

[Solex Agitator]

Perhaps Largo suffered from the same malady...

[Flash1087]

Largo at least had the foresight (pun kinda intended) to cover it up. A disfigured eye that weeps blood has to be seen as off-putting to some clients.

[sharpshooter]

Yes Mads played Le Chiffre brilliantly.

As for his eye, no idea. I think the vagueness of the issue gives him a bit of mysterious quality.

Clients getting revenge for a bad deal may be likely though.