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[tim partridge]

The construction site fight had 104 VFX shots- green screen, wire removal, set extensions-

The airport had 145 shots, which is the most in the film. All the environments are digital mattes/miniatures. The reason was because the whole scene was shot at Dunsfold Aerodrome near London, and was just a deserted airstrip with nothing in the background.

The big touch and go jet was CG, rendered by Peerless Camera Company.

For those with observant eyes: On the second model shot of the plane coming out of the hangar, look top left and the man standing on a gantry has "Meddings Ltd" written on him!

In all there were about 580 visual effects shots!!

Steve Begg did very very well methinks!!!

[CowboyFunk22]

I remembered them saying there would be visual effects but that you wouldn't see them. I actually was paying attention with this in mind and still nothing stood out. Thats pretty interesting

[Shrublands]

For those with observant eyes: On the second model shot of the plane coming out of the hangar, look top left and the man standing on a gantry has "Meddings Ltd" written on him!

That

[marktmurphy]

The construction site fight had 104 VFX shots- green screen, wire removal, set extensions-

The airport had 145 shots, which is the most in the film. All the environments are digital mattes/miniatures. The reason was because the whole scene was shot at Dunsfold Aerodrome near London, and was just a deserted airstrip with nothing in the background.

The big touch and go jet was CG, rendered by Peerless Camera Company.

For those with observant eyes: On the second model shot of the plane coming out of the hangar, look top left and the man standing on a gantry has "Meddings Ltd" written on him!

In all there were about 580 visual effects shots!!

Steve Begg did very very well methinks!!!

I noticed most of the airport stuff as I know Dunsfold and seeing the lights of a city on the horizon was quite surprising. The touch and go jet I did think was CGI, although it's worth noting that residents of Dunsfold were alerted that a 747 or something else big would be flying in at one point for the filming.
The hangar scene looked very fake to me- practically all the people around it looked dropped on with shimmering outlines etc.
The SkyFleet plane itself had been added to- the blue streak and lengthened upper deck had been dropped onto the all-white Dunsfold 747 somehow (you can see in these pictures taken of it last week: http://www.automotop...ws-a-boeing-747 ).

[killkenny kid]

I remembered them saying there would be visual effects but that you wouldn't see them. I actually was paying attention with this in mind and still nothing stood out. Thats pretty interesting

same here.

[Icarus]

I have to say, I didn't notice any of that, either. Mind you, the first time I saw the movie, I completely failed to spot Richard Branson getting frisked at the airport...

Having said that, I did think the close-ups of the house in Venice was a bit of obvious model work, but I can forgive that.

I wonder if it would be possible to do that with a real house in Venice?

[Roebuck]

Embarrassingly, there were a number of shots I'd assumed were models/CGI that turned out to be either real or physical effects. The police car in the MIA scene comes to mind.

Top class work all round.

[kneelbeforezod]

In the parkour chase scene, I think there's some very subtle CGI used to change the stuntman's face into Craig's. The shot where Craig runs up that crane thats at a 45 degree angle, and then jumps to reach the girders... well I think the jump itself is the stuntman with Craig's face subtly applied.

Theres one more shot in there, where he kicks that thing and gets lifted rapidly upwards... some similar cgi work has gone on there too.

Excuse my awful descriptions of the shots in question lol.

[FlemingBond]

how was the collapsing building done? was that real?

[K1Bond007]

how was the collapsing building done? was that real?

That was a model IIRC.

[marktmurphy]

Embarrassingly, there were a number of shots I'd assumed were models/CGI that turned out to be either real or physical effects. The police car in the MIA scene comes to mind.

Yes- me too when I saw that on a TV spot. It moves like a CGI effect- especially the way it hits right in front of the camera; that's a classic CGI way of doing it.

[Melanie]

Is the construction site explosion real?

The MIA touch-and-go looked very real. The police car isn't CGI? That's a surprise. I didn't notice anything else and were I thought model is obvious (Venice) it looked pretty good, though the water could have been a bit muddier IMHO.

The hangar scene looked very fake to me- practically all the people around it looked dropped on with shimmering outlines etc.

I didn't even look at the people the first time, as I was so impressed by the size of the prototype. On my second viewing I paid attention to the surroundings and to me most of the people seemed CGI. The unnatural movements kind of gave it away. Reminded me of some scenes in the "Titanic" engine room.

Edited by Melanie, 05 December 2006 - 12:30 PM.

[George Kaplan]

I can't say I noticed any of the CGI work; but I've only seen it once so far and if I get swept up into a story it has to be some pretty obvious/bad CGI work to get me to notice it.

[PlayItBogart]

how was the collapsing building done? was that real?

That was a model IIRC.

Indeed. Venice has some stringent laws on waterways and such. Boats technically aren't allowed to speed on the waterways because the buildings are starting to erode (Or something to that effect). Having an actual building collapse in Venice would undoubtedly cause a lot of water damage to the surrounding buildings.

[/Italian Job remake special features]

[Roebuck]

Embarrassingly, there were a number of shots I'd assumed were models/CGI that turned out to be either real or physical effects. The police car in the MIA scene comes to mind.

Yes- me too when I saw that on a TV spot. It moves like a CGI effect- especially the way it hits right in front of the camera; that's a classic CGI way of doing it.

There was a documentary about the stunt work shown the other night. They had footage of the camera that shot the scene, completely written off after the squad car collided into it. Hate to think what that added to the final budget.

[marktmurphy]

Venice has some stringent laws on waterways and such. Boats technically aren't allowed to speed on the waterways because the buildings are starting to erode (Or something to that effect). Having an actual building collapse in Venice would undoubtedly cause a lot of water damage to the surrounding buildings.

[/Italian Job remake special features]

How did they do the boat chase in the Italian Job if you can't speed? I haven't seen the DVD!

[tim partridge]

how was the collapsing building done? was that real?

Model shot at Pinewood, close ups of the splashing water had digital paint work done to reduce the size of the water globules into mist (big globules give away the scale with miniature water effects).

The model was also composited into plate shots of Venice.

All the interior stuff was done on the 007 stage.

Edited by tim partridge, 05 December 2006 - 11:35 PM.

[capungo]

Wow, I never noticed any of that. Well, I did figure that the Venice building collapse was a model of some sort because... well... it'd be a bit hard to get permits to do that in real life The only part that stuck out to me as an effect was part where the Aston zooms over Vesper, but I think I read somewhere that that was actually done in real life with some poor stunt woman

Edited by capungo, 05 December 2006 - 11:49 PM.

[Skudor]

I didn't notice anything. With the Venice house collapse I have been looking so hard (seen the movie four times now...) to see if anything gives away that it's a model. Nothing does, not to me at least.

With the Skyfleet plane in the hangar my eyes are always on the plane so haven't looked at the surroundings / people that much.

Overall I think the special effects are fantastic!

[MarcAngeDraco]

Embarrassingly, there were a number of shots I'd assumed were models/CGI that turned out to be either real or physical effects. The police car in the MIA scene comes to mind.

Yes- me too when I saw that on a TV spot. It moves like a CGI effect- especially the way it hits right in front of the camera; that's a classic CGI way of doing it.

There was a documentary about the stunt work shown the other night. They had footage of the camera that shot the scene, completely written off after the squad car collided into it. Hate to think what that added to the final budget.

I think that shot must have had some CGI work done to it...

Or else they made something real look like it's CGI (which is absolutely bassackwards IMO)...

[tim partridge]

There was just a rig removal for the police car. Same with the Aston Martin crash.

[marktmurphy]

There was just a rig removal for the police car. Same with the Aston Martin crash.

Indeed- there's a great big piston flapping around from the floor of the Aston in the untouched shots!

[thecasinoroyale]

I think the only CG touch I saw was the boost from the jet engine which pulls up to avoid crashing into the chasing tanker and cop car, the second boost that blows the car over. That, and the shot of it coming into land.

But even THAT looked real, and certainly not over the top!

Fantastic!

[Johnboy007]

After two viewings the Venice collapse is the only thing that looks CG to me.

They did a good in the FX department this time!

[napier007]

[quote name='Shrublands' post='662617' date='4 December 2006 - 09:08']
[quote name='tim partridge' post='662599' date='4 December 2006 - 11:55']

For those with observant eyes: On the second model shot of the plane coming out of the hangar, look top left and the man standing on a gantry has "Meddings Ltd" written on him!

[/quote]

That

[bill007]

I've seen it 4 times now. Not a single disappearing Aston Martin to be found. The requirements for CGI due to location shots or stunt-doubles had absolutely no distractions.

I googled "Meddings," and found this:
Meddings, Derek. Creating Mechanical Models and Miniatures for "The Spy Who Loved Me".

Edited by bill007, 08 December 2006 - 12:08 AM.

[EL7]

In the parkour chase scene, I think there's some very subtle CGI used to change the stuntman's face into Craig's. The shot where Craig runs up that crane thats at a 45 degree angle, and then jumps to reach the girders... well I think the jump itself is the stuntman with Craig's face subtly applied.

I noticed that as well.

[Vauxhall]

I've seen it 4 times now. Not a single disappearing Aston Martin to be found. The requirements for CGI due to location shots or stunt-doubles had absolutely no distractions.

I googled "Meddings," and found this:
Meddings, Derek. Creating Mechanical Models and Miniatures for "The Spy Who Loved Me".

Yes, Derek Meddings worked on several Bond films in that capacity. This was a subtle nod to him. A nice touch. I'll have to look out for it when I next see the movie.

[bill007]

I'm learning so much 'inside' info about Casino Royale here on the forums. Man, this is grrreat!

The nod to Meddings. Richard Branson eye-blink cameo. The two previous bond girl cameos. I joined up to voice my support for Craig, but I'm having so darn much fun here.

[Solex]

the only thing I thought was mildly distracting was the shot of the sky from inside Le Chiffres yatcht. I thought it looked blue screened.