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Bond Music in Casino Royale?


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#1 AgentPB

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 08:06 PM

I'm not sure if this is a spoiler. I know the James Bond theme is played at the end of the movie, but i read somewhere that they used other Bond themes throughout the movie. Do these themes have names? Where are they in the movie?

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 08:19 PM

Arnold does a few nods here and there, like in his other scores.

There's a chyming melody during Kronsteen's meeting with Blofeld in FRWL (I believe, my memory is hazy...actually no, it was from the end of the hedge maze I think...somewhere!) that can PLAINLY be heard in "Blunt Instrument". I smiled at that.

The descending baseline from TWINE (Pipeline) and DAD (Antonov) which is ACTUALLY just the OHMSS baseline can be heard during the stairwell fight. Arnold plays it on strings this time, sounds sharp. I enjoyed it.

James Bond Theme baseline appears numerous times. The best is an orchestration in "Dinner Jackets" when he's putting on the tux, and it is NEARLY IDENTICAL to its incarnation in "A Drop in the Ocean" from the YOLT score.

Some of the love stuff evokes the love scenes in Moonraker, specifically "Corinne and the Safe."

Solange's theme, especially during her beach ride on the horse, is strongly strongly strongly related (one brief melody identical) to some of the Halle Berry/Jinx stuff from Cuba in DAD.

The short little opening to "Bond, James Bond" sounds like it was ripped out of a 60s Barry score.

I guess if I had to name all the noticeable themes in the movie:

1) You Know My Name (various orchestrations) - the opening chords are used frequently as an action theme, most prominently in African rundown
2) Solange's Theme
3) Vesper's Theme
4) Bond baseline

YKMN is present everywhere (highlights, Train Intro and "Aston Montenegro") but not as much as I was expecting. Not quite to the level the OHMSS theme was used in...well, OHMSS.

Still a solid thematic effort all around.

Edited by MattofSteel, 20 November 2006 - 08:20 PM.


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Posted 21 November 2006 - 04:24 AM

Thanks. I do recognize a lot of those cues now that i think of it. YKMN orchestrated was not as cool as i thought it would be :)

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Posted 21 November 2006 - 06:06 AM

There's a chyming melody during Kronsteen's meeting with Blofeld in FRWL (I believe, my memory is hazy...actually no, it was from the end of the hedge maze I think...somewhere!) that can PLAINLY be heard in "Blunt Instrument". I smiled at that.


Where in Blunt Instrument would this little melody show up? Would you happen to have a time in the track that we could play to hear what it is you are trying to convey MattofSteel?

Thanks

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Posted 21 November 2006 - 02:23 PM

I'm at work, I don't have the track on me. It's fairly near to the end of the slow part, if I remember.

It's sort of an ascending triad, slow quarter notes, in a minor key.

I'll play the track and whip out the FRWL DVD tonight, in about 8 hours, and try and get you a time. From my collective memory of the FRWL score, it's identical or at least incredibly similar....

....wait.....

Funnily enough, I have the FRWL on a disc somewhere in the office here. Let me throw it in, I'll peruse;)

Ok, if you have FRWL soundtrack, a very very similar melody appears:

0:46 into the track "SPECTRE Island."

I'm not positive, I believe this the meeting between Kronsteen, Blofeld, and Klebb.

It's cousin shouldn't be hard to spot in Blunt Instrument - I believe it's the only really melodic thing in the opening aside from the ambience and the hint of the Bond riff. This is before the YKMN instrumental, which I loved btw.

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Posted 21 November 2006 - 02:36 PM

It also appears in "Death of Kerim" at about 1:30.

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Posted 25 November 2006 - 07:41 PM

Thanks MattofSteel for being so thorough and looking into that on my behalf (and at work no less). I did pop in the FRWL CD the other day and do see what you are talking about with that slow triad motif. I did hear it in Blunt Instrument towards the end of the slower half of the track. Good ears!

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Posted 25 November 2006 - 08:16 PM



There's a chyming melody during Kronsteen's meeting with Blofeld in FRWL (I believe, my memory is hazy...actually no, it was from the end of the hedge maze I think...somewhere!) that can PLAINLY be heard in "Blunt Instrument". I smiled at that.


Where in Blunt Instrument would this little melody show up? Would you happen to have a time in the track that we could play to hear what it is you are trying to convey MattofSteel?

Thanks



I think that may be at the begining of 'The End Of An Aston Martin'

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Posted 26 November 2006 - 07:10 PM

good observations....

I wonder if that FRWL reference may be just coincidental though.....

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 09:29 PM

The last 20 seconds of Miami International. There is a little reference to 'A drive in the county' from For Your Eyes Only. Listen very carefully