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[Sn007py]

Could the black and white sequence only have been for the teaser trailer and in the final movie it will be in colour?

I believe this to be true because now all the photos that are coming out for those scenes are in colour.

[marktmurphy]

No- the script lists it as being in black and white. You can also notice a distinct difference in quality between those scenes shot in black and white and those just pushed to black and white in the trailer (like the one of Bond stepping off the plane)- the ones intended to be b/w look much sharper and full of nice contrast.

An interesting thought I've just had in another thread, however, is that for these b/w scenes they may have actually darkened Craig's hair in places to give more contrast.

[Mr_Wint]

The film is still in post-production and a lot of things can happen. I dont like the idea with B&W anyway.

[Sn007py]

I don't care for black and white either.

[marktmurphy]

The film is still in post-production and a lot of things can happen. I dont like the idea with B&W anyway.

Well they won't be able to make it colour- if they haven't shot it on monochrome stock, it'll still be lit and shot for b/w. It's staying b/w.

[Sn007py]

Well they won't be able to make it colour- if they haven't shot it on monochrome stock, it'll still be lit and shot for b/w. It's staying b/w.

There is a photo of Daniel Craig in a black jacket. He is sitting in a chair and he is going to shoot a man. I saw this as a colour photo and a B+W photo.

[Agent 76]

black & white or colour, it doesn't matter, it's Bond baby!

[marktmurphy]

Well they won't be able to make it colour- if they haven't shot it on monochrome stock, it'll still be lit and shot for b/w. It's staying b/w.

There is a photo of Daniel Craig in a black jacket. He is sitting in a chair and he is going to shoot a man. I saw this as a colour photo and a B+W photo.

Well yeah- the photographer brought along a camera with colour film. The man with the film camera (which is a different camera) probably brought along black and white stock to shoot on.

[Rich_19]

Yo Sn007py, the black and white WILL be in the film, defo, and believe me, its a GOOD thing. Maybe all Pre-title sequences should be that way in future. It makes a change from the usual 100% technicolour Bondage we have been subjected to for over 40 years.

[richyawyingtmv]

I love the black and white idea. Then again, I love film noir!

[bernsmartin007]

Well they won't be able to make it colour- if they haven't shot it on monochrome stock, it'll still be lit and shot for b/w. It's staying b/w.

There is a photo of Daniel Craig in a black jacket. He is sitting in a chair and he is going to shoot a man. I saw this as a colour photo and a B+W photo.

Well yeah- the photographer brought along a camera with colour film. The man with the film camera (which is a different camera) probably brought along black and white stock to shoot on.

Aye, those pictures are different to the film. The PTS is all shot, if you notice, in old school film-noir style camera angles and the lighting is for that effect. It would look odd in colour.

I love the noir style, looks amazing.

[richyawyingtmv]

Aye, those pictures are different to the film. The PTS is all shot, if you notice, in old school film-noir style camera angles and the lighting is for that effect. It would look odd in colour.

I love the noir style, looks amazing.

Yep. It's one-point lighting. A typical convention of Film Noir to add characteristic definition and shadows, as are the slightly abstract camera angles/scenery.

This scene was designed specifically for black and white.

Edited by richyawyingtmv, 03 September 2006 - 01:08 PM.

[JCRendle]

Yo Sn007py, the black and white WILL be in the film, defo, and believe me, its a GOOD thing. Maybe all Pre-title sequences should be that way in future. It makes a change from the usual 100% technicolour Bondage we have been subjected to for over 40 years.

Bondage? They are going for the R rating then

[DamnCoffee]

I love the transition from B&W to Colour -

Spoiler

The Blood being the first Colour sequence in the movie

[Rich_19]

LOL JcRendle, an 18/R certificate? Maybe in 20 years time...

[Double-O-Kevin]

Rich_19:

Maybe all Pre-title sequences should be that way in future.

they are only doing the pre-title sequence in b&w for Casino Royale - to signify the change from before Bond became a Double-O (scenes in b&w) to obtaining his license to kill (switch to color).

I do think it's a brilliant idea and a cool effect for all, including CR-doubters.

[delfloria]

Why don't some of you guys like Black and White film? I don't understand and am very curious. Some of the best TV shows and films have been made in black and white.

[DamnCoffee]

I love the old Black and White Carry on films does that count

[Broadsword]

An interesting thought I've just had in another thread, however, is that for these b/w scenes they may have actually darkened Craig's hair in places to give more contrast.

thats possible and fits in with some of the colour photos we have had from this PTS

[Jackanaples]

I don't care for black and white either.

It's only for five or six minutes, I think you'll make it through okay.

[MarcAngeDraco]

Based on what we've seen so far, the B&W sequence seems like it will appropriately moody and atmospheric... I tnik it's going to be great...

[Jackanaples]

Based on what we've seen so far, the B&W sequence seems like it will appropriately moody and atmospheric... I tnik it's going to be great...

I agree with you, I think the sequence is going to be a standout.

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

The fight with Obanno is in black and withe in the teaser... but that's near the end of the film... so I think It's going to be ibn color

[DamnCoffee]

yeah the fight with obanno and the coversation with bond and m are the only B&W sequences from the trailer which are in colour in the finished movie if that makes sense

[bernsmartin007]

The fight with Obanno is in black and withe in the teaser... but that's near the end of the film... so I think It's going to be ibn color

That's not the end of the film, that's in the middle of the film.

Also they put some pieces in b&w in the trailer to give the trailer a theme. Those bits are not from the PTS, but you can clearly see the different in lighting and cinematography in the scenes which are in the pts.

[Sn007py]

That is what I was saying. There are things I saw that are not in black and white in the movie we are going to see.

[JCRendle]

ok, Bond shooting the guy in the office and the washroom fight - that's the only b&w in the film.

[bill007]

Resurrecting this thread....

Now that we've seen the movie, wasn't this PTS absolutely fantastic?

The intensity of the bathroom killing.

The gun-barrel cut.

Edited by bill007, 30 November 2006 - 03:42 AM.

[booyeah_]

I loved the exchange between Dryden and Bond Biting dialogue that has been missing the past few films.

Edited by booyeah_, 30 November 2006 - 03:48 AM.

[bill007]

It was a good nod to Dr. No. When 007 was waiting in the girl's bedroom for the bad guy to come in. Bang-bang.....bang.

Only this time it was 'one shot, one kill.'