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[DamnCoffee]

All of my friends say James Bond is "Crap" or "Gay" and despise the franchise and i'm called names such as "Bond Bummer" and "Bond Lover" just because i'm a Bond fan - has anyone else experienced this or is it just me?

[zencat]

They could just be trying to get under your skin. I expect they'd be doing this if your were a Star Trek fan or a Star Wars fan. It's just part of the delight of being a fanboy.

It is unfortunate that among your age group at this time and place Bond really isn't a mainstream interest. It also seems the powers that be have written off marketing CR to younger viewers. Maybe they imagine by not pandering to "kids" and keeping Bond aloft and "adult" will actually make it more appealing to younger viewers. It’s the Playboy hidden in your father’s drawer. This sounds good in theory, but I don't think it will work.

Hang in there, mharkin.

[Nick-Nack]

my missus thinks bond is silly! and an arrogant w****r! ha, ha. i'm still gonna drag her to the pictures for CR though!

[DamnCoffee]

Good for you Nick Nack lol, how can anyone not like bond though, along with fish and chips he's a british icon of popular culture

[Gri007]

I can't ever say that I had that kind of trouble. How old are you exactly Mharkin. When I was at school, I just use to bore everyone to sleep about Bond but never got called a 'Bond Bummer or Bond lover' , though.

And the girls I've been with, they have never shown much interest in Bond.

It must be a women's thing then, Nick nak

[DamnCoffee]

I can't ever say that I had that kind of trouble. How old are you exactly Mharkin. When I was at school, I just use to bore everyone to sleep about Bond but never got called a 'Bond Bummer or Bond lover' , though.

And the girls I've been with, they have never shown much interest in Bond.

It must be a women's thing then, Nick nak

I'm 15, 16 in december

[Loomis]

My friends generally like Bond (in other words, they'll watch the films when they're released at the cinema, but that's about it), but outside of Bond fandom I think I've actually yet to meet anyone who loves Bond. Met plenty of hardcore STAR WARS geeks, mind - I think there must be far more of 'em in the general population.

[Gri007]

Intresting Mharkin, when I was 15 I never did get dissed about my Bond likings. I'm now 20 and still don't get dissed. It is very handy if you at your local pub quize and there's a Bond qeustion. They always tend to look at me for an answer ( Don't know why ).

My advice Mharkin is to ignore them, find out what they like. i.e if there Harry Potter fans then call them Wizardrey freeks. Star Wars and Star Trek fans i'm sure would probably get quite a lot of hasstle, but Bond I'm quite surprised.

You've got to remember that Bond has changed and inspired a lot of film goers. It is quite a powerfull thing really.

[jaguar007]

It's great that you are a 15 yr old Bond fan. Much cooler and more adult than being a Star Wars or Harry Potter junkie.

[TheLazenby]

I knew someone who LOVED Bond in grade school - in fact, he was the reason I saw Barry Nelson's "Royale" for the first time. But we hadn't talked for years because he moved away, and I found him on AIM, and tried to talk Bond with him.

Big mistake. Not only did he act like he didn't know what I was talking about (I was just describing parts of movies that HE used to own...) but when I started talking about "Goldeneye 64", he called me obsessive. He actually became so insulting that I never attempted to contact him again.

I understand losing interest in something, but after do you, don't berate someone about it!!

[Pam Bouvier]

My sister and husband roll their eyes at me when I give them an update on CR. Most people I know have seen many of the movies, but would not call themselves big fans ( it's like being a feminist: people are all for women's rights, but start sentences with," I'm not a feminist BUT.."). So now I just enjoy the challenge of converting them..much like the people who come to one's door to talk about God.

I talked my husband into the Dare to be Bond, as a late anniversary trip (he actually is getting into it. Wants to sky dive and will wear his tux. Not too sure about me handling a gun though...I have a temper ).

I invited about 12 of my favorite girlfriends to a Bond party. Everyone had to bring something that represented a Bond Girl (one person brought a stuffed cat, another a card with a dollar bill & a penny taped to it, I myself, wore a removeable Octpus tattoo). We played games like Bond Bingo,the music was a CD of Bond film themes, and of course Verper's were served. Happily, I educated them all and I think they had fum. I also found out one was actually a diehard fan of Roger Moore and For Your Eyes Only.

Don't give up. Be proud of your Bond fandom. You'll discover comrades in the strangest places

Edited by Pam Bouvier, 03 August 2006 - 02:08 AM.

[Johnboy007]

You're probably getting off easy for being a Bond fan.

All of my friends and family like Bond, they just find my obsession a little bizarre.

[Jackanaples]

You're a teenager. The reason your friends tease you about Bond is simple:

1. It's available.

2. It gets your goat.

3. James Bond is not cool to almost anyone your age, and the movies themselves haven't been cool or very adventurous since 1969 and OHMSS.

I'm 36 and have been a Bond fan since I was seven. By 1977 James Bond was looking very dated. The things that were fresh and exciting in 1963 were hoary cliches by then.

I got teased mercilessly. Not so much by friends as by their sisters. You have no idea just how ridiculous a Roger Moore Bond movie looks until you see it with a thirteen year old girl in the room. (To be fair, I don't think I've ever met a woman who thought Roger Moore was sexy or who didn't think Sean Connery was.)

The ensuing years did not change much. The Timothy Dalton and Pierce Brosnan Bond films were on the whole miles better than the Moore entries, but they -and Bond- were not ever cool. They still look dated and out of step with the times in a way that the early films do not.

So that's the bad news. Here's the good:

Things are about to change. CASINO ROYALE gives all the indications of a movie that will remind a disinterested audience of why they loved the secret agent with the license to kill so much in the first place.

I've never been this excited about a new Bond movie. There's a good chance we are on the verge of a second Bond craze.

In short, Daniel Craig and CASINO ROYALE are going to make James Bond cool again. When they do, your friends will come around and you will have been there first.

[stamper]

If you're friends found Bond "gay", you will be surprised in about 10 years time to discover that most of those "gay" haters will be, well , gay. The most vicious and virulents against gays are often repressed ones. Funny, that is...

Jackanaples, I tend to agree with you, GE is a movie from 1989, it's full of Die Hardisms, LTK could have been made unchanged in 1978 not one frame would be different, most Moore were totally dragging behind (LALD : too late for Blaxploitation, MWTGG too late for Bruce Lee craze), it's not like they could make these movies in a week and get them out fast to exploit the latest trends.

Edited by stamper, 03 August 2006 - 04:49 AM.

[Jackanaples]

You know a friend of mine and I speculated how much cooler the Bond movies would have been if Connery had stuck around to do OHMSS then quit. Then Lazenby takes over and does LALD as a full-on blaxploitation movie -dropping Jane Seymour as Solitaire and bringing Pam Grier in as the Bond girl!

Now you've got Lazenby for TMWTGG -a kung fu Bond movie AND your actor playing Bond is a black belt! Awesome. The Roger Moore Carry On Bond era is neatly sidestepped entirely!

Part of the problem with the Bond movies is that often they try to cash in on trends (like kung fu, blaxploitation), but they go about it half-assed and noncommital.

[Arch Stanton]

I remember one time when I was in high school some other guys in my search class were going through trivial pursuit question cards, and a James Bond question came up and I answered it correctly (or course), then I mentioned that I was a big Bond fan. They just looked at me in disbelief and said that being a Bond fan was worse than being a Star Wars fan.

[Santa]

No, I never had a problem with it, mostly people have just humoured me. I don't know where you are from but by age 15 or so surely your pathetic 'friends' or schoolmates should have grown out of calling such stupid names. I really wouldn't worry about it, just be smug in the knowledge that to do your own thing is far cooler than to run around the playground at age 15 calling someone gay or 'Bond bummer'. That is deeply, deeply tragic.

[Jackanaples]

I remember one time when I was in high school some other guys in my search class were going through trivial pursuit question cards, and a James Bond question came up and I answered it correctly (or course), then I mentioned that I was a big Bond fan. They just looked at me in disbelief and said that being a Bond fan was worse than being a Star Wars fan.

This is totally true --unless it's Sean Connery's Bond in the first five movies and Lazenby in OHMSS. I'm telling you, James Bond just hasn't been himself since 1969.

[sharpshooter]

Yes, I know all about this. I get 'teased' about being a Bond fan. Everyone knows I am a Bond fan since very young. I take it not as an insult, but as an honour. I walk past people and usually get 'oh there is Mr Bond' or similar. The current thing for me now is people saying I will look like 007 at the school ball.

[Hitch]

The films are mostly crap, the books are pulp fiction, the music is cheesy - what's not to love?

The great thing about Bond is that there's something for everyone. The books are the most fantastic fun; there's no other film franchise like it; the music spans the generations; there's sex, violence, stunts, snobbishness, humour, glamorous locations, ugly villains, handsome heroes...

there's 60s uber-cool Bond, there's funky Bond, kung-fu Bond, Smokey and the Bandit Bond, safari suit-wearing Bond, nobody does it better Bond...there's PROPER BLOODY STUNTS Bond, there's creaking but lovable Bond, there's vicious Bond, there's smoothychops Bond, there's I-want-that-car Bond, there's blond Bond...

... there's bikinis, "I think he got the point", cinema's very best theme tune, jaw-dropping cars and gadgets, zip-dropping watches , wobbly sets, dodgy editing...

(all set to some of the best soundtracks written, bar none)

...there are countless novels by Amis, Gardner, Benson and Higson, each of them doing their own thing and giving us a different Bond...

...there's cheesy jokes and classic one-liners...

...moments of epic naffness...

...and some of the coolest things you'll ever hear or see on the big screen...

...the world of Bond has even inspired a fad for sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads...

...it's inspired a coven of ladies to hold Bond parties (great work, Pam)...

...and then there's Ian Fleming. Nuff said.

To adapt a chess saying, Bond is a sea in which a gnat may drink and an elephant may bathe.

As long as you enjoy Bond and don't get too serious about it, you'll find there's 40 years of pop culture to enjoy, groan and laugh at and with. You may even find yourself on the edge of your seat now and again - especially if you start reading Casino Royale and realise you have oodles of good, clean dirty fun waiting to be discovered - perfect for a 15 (soon to be 16 ) year old to discover.

Bond was cool. It's not now. It may be again *crosses fingers for Casino Royale* but really - who the hell cares?

Next time your oh-so-sophisticated friends/Star Wars geeks let loose with such juvenile jibes, respond with a ripe one-liner from the films or better yet, something from the books:

"They have a saying in Chicago: 'Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, the third time it's enemy action.'"

Now that's cool.

[daniel craig kirit]

I can't ever say that I had that kind of trouble. How old are you exactly Mharkin. When I was at school, I just use to bore everyone to sleep about Bond but never got called a 'Bond Bummer or Bond lover' , though.

And the girls I've been with, they have never shown much interest in Bond.

It must be a women's thing then, Nick nak

Double-o-LOL on that one out of compassion and understanding to your passed school days situations on 007 subject matter!hey its glad to know that im not the only guy who bored my girlfriend 2 death about 007,feeling a bit weird talking abt 007 with a girl who didnt understand the bond universe and worshipped bond like i did..cool

[Jericho_One]

A very close friend from the university drooled over Jason Bourne and how he was so much cooler and modern than James Bond...
I'm glad to say that after he saw the teaser for CR he's been constantly asking me for updates on CR and stressing how excited he is with the new novie.

[Thunderfinger]

Well. When I was a teenager,all the boys loved Bond. Most still do.
None of the girls did, and most still don

[Turn]

I almost felt like a closet Bond fan in the early '80s, when I really became a huge fan. It was at a point when a lot of people considered Bond silly or tired and the new wave of actions heroes like Stallone emerged. I would have really loved an outlet like CBn at the time, but I simply had only my family members to share my enthusiasm with.

I tried talking to some of my friends about Bond, and a few showed interest after an ABC showing, but little else. I made the mistake of telling one I was listening to the FYEO soundtrack and he looked at me like I was insane. The thing was I was a fan of Bond music as well as new wave and heavy metal, so it wasn't as if it was all I listened to.

My best friend kind of sneered at Bond, but the cool thing was he eventually started getting interest in them himself. I remember him calling me while watching AVTAK and saying he didn't think the guy doing the snowboarding looked anything like Moore, but like an eskimo.

But it turned out fine as I made new friends from a social group I was in who were big Bond fans and we eventually went to most of the 80s Bonds together. One of them just last weekend said he wants us to see CR the weekend it comes out.

[Bondian]

The films are mostly crap, the books are pulp fiction, the music is cheesy - what's not to love?

The great thing about Bond is that there's something for everyone. The books are the most fantastic fun; there's no other film franchise like it; the music spans the generations; there's sex, violence, stunts, snobbishness, humour, glamorous locations, ugly villains, handsome heroes...

there's 60s uber-cool Bond, there's funky Bond, kung-fu Bond, Smokey and the Bandit Bond, safari suit-wearing Bond, nobody does it better Bond...there's PROPER BLOODY STUNTS Bond, there's creaking but lovable Bond, there's vicious Bond, there's smoothychops Bond, there's I-want-that-car Bond, there's blond Bond...

... there's bikinis, "I think he got the point", cinema's very best theme tune, jaw-dropping cars and gadgets, zip-dropping watches , wobbly sets, dodgy editing...

(all set to some of the best soundtracks written, bar none)

...there are countless novels by Amis, Gardner, Benson and Higson, each of them doing their own thing and giving us a different Bond...

...there's cheesy jokes and classic one-liners...

...moments of epic naffness...

...and some of the coolest things you'll ever hear or see on the big screen...

...the world of Bond has even inspired a fad for sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads...

...it's inspired a coven of ladies to hold Bond parties (great work, Pam)...

...and then there's Ian Fleming. Nuff said.

To adapt a chess saying, Bond is a sea in which a gnat may drink and an elephant may bathe.

As long as you enjoy Bond and don't get too serious about it, you'll find there's 40 years of pop culture to enjoy, groan and laugh at and with. You may even find yourself on the edge of your seat now and again - especially if you start reading Casino Royale and realise you have oodles of good, clean dirty fun waiting to be discovered - perfect for a 15 (soon to be 16 ) year old to discover.

Bond was cool. It's not now. It may be again *crosses fingers for Casino Royale* but really - who the hell cares?

Next time your oh-so-sophisticated friends/Star Wars geeks let loose with such juvenile jibes, respond with a ripe one-liner from the films or better yet, something from the books:

"They have a saying in Chicago: 'Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, the third time it's enemy action.'"

Now that's cool.

Ditto.

[Johnboy007]

I remember one time when I was in high school some other guys in my search class were going through trivial pursuit question cards, and a James Bond question came up and I answered it correctly (or course), then I mentioned that I was a big Bond fan. They just looked at me in disbelief and said that being a Bond fan was worse than being a Star Wars fan.

We are at the very least better than Star Trek fans (a bit hypocritical considering my sig, although it is in reference to DC). Our discussions/arguments are so much more intelligent and civilized. Part of the reason why CNB is ruining our fandom: brings us down to the cobra pit of Trekkies.

[Quartermaster007]

Not really made fun of for it. Most of my friends are just impressed that I can name all of the movie in order and the year they came out. And, fortunately, they think Bond is cool, but most haven't liked the past Brozza movies.

[stamper]

We are at the very least better than Star Trek fans (a bit hypocritical considering my sig, although it is in reference to DC). Our discussions/arguments are so much more intelligent and civilized. Part of the reason why CNB is ruining our fandom: brings us down to the cobra pit of Trekkies.

Have you seen that SNL gag with Shatner and the Wayne's World team sending up a trekkies convention ? That was Shatner best performance of his career, and he had to apologise for it. "Did you ever kiss a girl ?" he asks a fan, who lower his head in shame. hilarious !

[Johnboy007]

We are at the very least better than Star Trek fans (a bit hypocritical considering my sig, although it is in reference to DC). Our discussions/arguments are so much more intelligent and civilized. Part of the reason why CNB is ruining our fandom: brings us down to the cobra pit of Trekkies.

Have you seen that SNL gag with Shatner and the Wayne's World team sending up a trekkies convention ? That was Shatner best performance of his career, and he had to apologise for it. "Did you ever kiss a girl ?" he asks a fan, who lower his head in shame. hilarious !

Sadly I've never seen it. Definitely heard about it though.

[stamper]

here's a transcript, enjoy it !

http://snltranscript...hgetalife.phtml

It's called GET A LIFE

AND HERE'S THE VIDEO