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[daniel craig kirit]

He should smoke as he would make bond appear like a real macho man who smokes as he is frustrated about his 007 job.Bond especially during the connery era added a more virile approach to the role with the cigarette... Remember Sean first appearance in Dr No holding a fag..? That looked suave and cool and entered Bond in our minds 4ever with the quote:
My name's bond ,JAMES BOND
Daniel would appear naked without a smoke in his hands. I say put Craig in an exotic location surrounded with Bond babes, sipping a vodka martini and smoking while flirting or engaging in a conversation. Fleming's caracter did smoke quite extensively in the novels and to stay closer 2 Bond's darker side, he should be allowed to have a smoke to chill out. At least in this 007 outing. But i do know that its nt possible as the Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson are opting 4 a PG-13 release. Not 2 mention that there is a policy in Hollywood which states that only the vilains should be allowed to smoke so as nt to influence children. The good guy should be perfect. Thats not fair to the caracter as they are removing a part of him that is true 2 his traits.But its nt the producer's (who are doing a great job)fault as they are the guardian of the 007 legacy and have 2 adhere 2 the norms of time and movie going teens who can trully portray their hero in life. Enfin, just 4 the hell of it there should be a deleted scene of Bond smoking at the very least Just kidding

Edited by daniel craig kirit, 11 July 2006 - 02:05 PM.

[Red Barchetta]

Bond smoked in the novels, and he smokes in the movies. I can't see any reason why he would not be smoking in CR.

[Tarl_Cabot]

Bond needs a good respatory system for all that hard core training he does to kill bad guys and save the world on our behalf...so, lay of the fags James...but have a pint or two...Please.

OK, this was a big isue for me but I've resigned to the fact that these are different (lame) times and he just will not be smoking again...So, I 'm able to rationalize why he shouldn't smoke and why Bond is so cool anyway he doesn't need a prop or the security blanket of an extremnely unhealthy and disgusting habit to maintain his composure under durress. But I hope he has a few cocktails on screen and doesn't order a glass of milk!

[Johnboy007]

I have never cared one way or the other. Just as look as it doesn't interfere with the scene (Brosnan in Die Another Day).

[daniel craig kirit]

Bond smoked in the novels, and he smokes in the movies. I can't see any reason why he would not be smoking in CR.

BECAUSE OF THE PG RATING.That rating is a buzz killer. Even Pierce Brosnan didn't inhale carbon monoxide in his lungs as they would have to go to a PG18 or smthing to let that happen.I say the producers should make a Bond Flick 4 adults only directed by Quentin Tarantino or Tony Scott where James should smoke a lot and have on screen sex with the Bond Girls.Believe me that gna be rewarding 4 every adults.Pierce and the producers mainly wanted to set the example 4 teens starting frm Goldeneye to Die Another Dayas they didnt want to portray a smoking bond as opposed 2 the tailor of panama and the matador where i think that Brosnan got his revenge by smoking the hell out of that cigarete pack.The latter did smoke a cigar quite furtively in Die Another Day when Halle Berry comes out of the water. The producers 'could' capatilize a bit like the larkin ad in license 2 kill by making Bond smoke Morlands this time around or Malboro lights 4 instance. Craig has the figure of a guy who is a smoker 2 the bone so why nt play on that factor. But believe you me, its nt today that 007 will light up on the screen.The movie audience should be a little less rigid concerning smoking (and everything else as a matter of fact)bcoz its nt due to fact that i see a guy killing people that im gna do the same even if it is my hero 4 example. Same goes 4 the smokes. Movie audience should lighten up 4 real!

[Loomis]

Wasn't there some talk a while back of Bond smoking a cigar in CASINO ROYALE? I think the days of him fagging are over, though, and indeed they have been for a very long time. In which films do we see him with a cigarette? Off the top of my head:

DR. NO
GOLDFINGER
YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE
ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
LICENCE TO KILL

Just six films out of 20!

[Jim]

http://debrief.comma...p...&hl=smoking

Haven't we done this one to death? As t'were.

[I Like Sharks]

Everyone knows smokings very unhealthy but why does Bond have to be perfect? Why not stop him driving fast because that'll influence dangerous driving? Why not stop him fighting/killing? Or having casual sex? Smokings hardly any more dangerous than any of those things.

Why not have Bond smoking but put in a line about cigarettes being bad for him like there was in YOLT?

[Thunderfinger]

I say Smoke`m, James!

[bernsmartin007]

I have seen pictures somehwere of him smoking a Havana cigar on the Casino Royale set in full costume. Posters concluded that it must be a film prop.

[Vilain]

No offense, but screw the teens. I'm tired of my viewing habits being restricted because the film is meant for all ages. Let Bond smoke, drink and shoot the living crap out of every baddie he see's.

Edited by Vilain, 15 July 2006 - 12:49 AM.

[stamper]

I hope he smokes, and headbutt the guys who complains about it in the Casino. That should be interesting.

[K1Bond007]

If they want Bond to be current, then no, he shouldn't, but if they want to pick and choose what should be faithful to Fleming for all-time then sure, go for it.

We've been through all this before. The Bond of this century wouldn't smoke IMHO. Cigars once in a while are one thing, but cigarette smoking is such a faux pas these days and it's hardly realistic for secret agents who have to run and swim as much as Bond. This has actually always been a problem for Bond since his creation, but given the change in attitude to cigarette smoking over the past, say, 20 years (especially the last 10), I just don't picture it as something he would do. 50s-80s, I can picture that.

A real secret agent, however, would always have cigarettes and a lighter though, regardless if he smoked them. While on the job anyway.

[Flash1087]

Honestly, I'm fine either way. If he smokes, cool. If he doesn't, cool.

But if the smoking is the only trait of his character they brought over, I'll be very upset. Likewise, if he doesn't smoke but is still Fleming's Bond through and through, I'll be thrilled.

[Mr Teddy Bear]

This is something, I feel, really doesn't influence the overall quality of the film.

I think it is slightly stupid to prohibit him from smoking because it sends the wrong signal. BUT, if there is a scene where Bond would usually have a smoke and he doesn't, I won't bother me in the slightest.

[Jericho_One]

It really doesn't bother me.
But preventing him from smoking in the first place because that would be a bad example, that doesn't make much sense.
Bond isn't supposed to be a role model. Besides, Fleming wrote him as a smoker, he should stay that way.

[stamper]

I heard he will not kill anyone anymore in his movies also, and not drink alcohol. Because it's not a good example. All the vilains will die by having "accidents". Instead of saying "martini vodka shaken not stirred", he will say "tropical hawa

[DamnCoffee]

I wouldn't mind if Bond Smoked again IMO it would get back into the spirit of the earlier movies and fleming

[K1Bond007]

[quote name='stamper' post='574311' date='15 July 2006 - 10:28']
I heard he will not kill anyone anymore in his movies also, and not drink alcohol. Because it's not a good example. All the vilains will die by having "accidents". Instead of saying "martini vodka shaken not stirred", he will say "tropical hawa

[JimmyBond]

If the Bond of Casino Royale was a smoker he would never be able to chase the villian onto the crane as he does in the trailer. He's probably collapse of a heart attack first...or have to stop because of a nic fit

[Thunderfinger]

I smoke and i am in better shape than many i know who don

[RevolveR]

I'd say look for some middle ground. Give Bond a cigar because it doesn't seem to be as big of a deal. Then he is still smoking like Fleming's character, but it's in a more (modern) socially acceptable manner.

Either way I don't think it's a make-or-break element of the film but it could signifigantly improve a given scene. And, smoking an occasional cigar doesn't effect your fitness!

Edited by RevolveR, 19 July 2006 - 09:59 PM.

[Thunderfinger]

Or he could smoke an occasional joint...

[RevolveR]

Or he could smoke an occasional joint...

Good one..

[Harmsway]

Wasn't there some talk a while back of Bond smoking a cigar in CASINO ROYALE? I think the days of him fagging are over, though, and indeed they have been for a very long time. In which films do we see him with a cigarette? Off the top of my head:

DR. NO
GOLDFINGER
YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE
ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
LICENCE TO KILL

Just six films out of 20!

Indeed.

But yeah, it seems Bond lights up a cigar in CASINO ROYALE (if the ET footage is to be believed).

[DamnCoffee]

why stop bond smoking though, i mean the producers say its a bad influence to children but thats the least of there worries

- Killing people
- Having sex with woman
- Drugs
These are all bad influences on children so i dont think that kids are paying much attention to 007 havind a draw now and again

[SeanValen00V]

[quote name='Vilain' post='574183' date='15 July 2006 - 01:49']
No offense, but screw the teens. I'm tired of my viewing habits being restricted because the film is meant for all ages. Let Bond smoke, drink and shoot the living crap out of every baddie he see's.
[/quote]


The Bond producers will rob us of things that actually would make Daniel Craig fit Bond right, he looks like a smoking Bond, and it could actually make me like the craig Bond about 70% more then I do now, if the producers have the GUTS to let him do it, or maybe they'll let him smoke a cigar in the last film before they fire him like Brosnan.

[quote name='Thunderfinger' post='575244' date='18 July 2006 - 16:52']
I smoke and i am in better shape than many i know who don

[Harmsway]

No offense, but screw the teens. I'm tired of my viewing habits being restricted because the film is meant for all ages. Let Bond smoke, drink and shoot the living crap out of every baddie he see's.

The Bond producers will rob us of things that actually would make Daniel Craig fit Bond right, he looks like a smoking Bond, and it could actually make me like the craig Bond about 70% more then I do now, if the producers have the GUTS to let him do it, or maybe they'll let him smoke a cigar in the last film before they fire him like Brosnan.

If you read my post above, you'd see that I noted that Bond *does* smoke a cigar in CASINO ROYALE.

[SeanValen00V]

No offense, but screw the teens. I'm tired of my viewing habits being restricted because the film is meant for all ages. Let Bond smoke, drink and shoot the living crap out of every baddie he see's.

The Bond producers will rob us of things that actually would make Daniel Craig fit Bond right, he looks like a smoking Bond, and it could actually make me like the craig Bond about 70% more then I do now, if the producers have the GUTS to let him do it, or maybe they'll let him smoke a cigar in the last film before they fire him like Brosnan.

If you read my post above, you'd see that I noted that Bond *does* smoke a cigar in CASINO ROYALE.

I'm trying to avoid all details regarding the film, and my posts assume nothing, if I actually end like liking Casino, avoiding details to be surprised would be nice, so I guess if he's smoking a cigar, you've given detail to me, and spoiled a surprise, it's tough foruming here, maybe I should come back after I've seen the film.!

[Harmsway]

No offense, but screw the teens. I'm tired of my viewing habits being restricted because the film is meant for all ages. Let Bond smoke, drink and shoot the living crap out of every baddie he see's.

The Bond producers will rob us of things that actually would make Daniel Craig fit Bond right, he looks like a smoking Bond, and it could actually make me like the craig Bond about 70% more then I do now, if the producers have the GUTS to let him do it, or maybe they'll let him smoke a cigar in the last film before they fire him like Brosnan.

If you read my post above, you'd see that I noted that Bond *does* smoke a cigar in CASINO ROYALE.

I'm trying to avoid all details regarding the film, and my posts assume nothing, if I actually end like liking Casino, avoiding details to be surprised would be nice, so I guess if he's smoking a cigar, you've given detail to me, and spoiled a surprise, it's tough foruming here, maybe I should come back after I've seen the film.!

If you're going to be so intensely negative about the film, though, at least have your facts straight. If you don't want to know and don't know anything about the film, you have no ground to stand on to be so negative prior to actually seeing the film.