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[sam29]

I think the the Poeple at Eon should buy the rights to the other Bond books written by John Gardener,Kingsly Amis and Remond Benson and turn them into Bond films.

[tonymascia1]

I think the the Poeple at Eon should buy the rights to the other Bond books written by John Gardener,Kingsly Amis and Remond Benson and turn them into Bond films.

sam29,

Interesting thought.

Somewhere else on this site (of course, I can't remember where), it was pointed out how much of the non-Fleming books found their way into Bond movie scripts, without buying the book rights.

Of course, since they're sourcing Casino Royale now, using Colonel Sun or The Man With the Red Tattoo (for example) wholesale would be nice.

Edited by tonymascia1, 18 October 2005 - 09:44 AM.

[V007]

The Raymond Benson Novels would make awesome films! If it happens, were in for cool ride...

[B5Erik]

I am totally in favor of using the Gardner books as the basis for future Bond movies.

[tdalton]

I think that they should get the rights to Gardner's novels and make For Special Services into a film.

[JameswpBond]

Some other production company should buy the rights for the other James Bond books.

Edited by JameswpBond, 20 October 2005 - 01:23 PM.

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

I think that they should get the rights to Gardner's novels and make For Special Services into a film.

As long as Nena Blofeld and Cedar Leiter are nowhere near such a concept....sure...

I'd go with Icebreaker myself.

[Carver]

Yeah I'm all for this idea. Before Craig was announced and before even CR was announced, there were rumour that they were going to make a film of TMWTRT, which I thought would be great. I haven't read too many Gardner novels, and I haven't even seen any Amis', I've only been reading Fleming and Benson. Benson's books would be awesome as films, especially Zero Minus Ten and TMWTRT. NDOD, despite being my favourite book, would have to be in a few years time, as I don't really think we should see Bond falling in love again just yet.

[Qwerty]

Some other production company should buy the rights for the other James Bond books.

Won't happen.

[JameswpBond]

Some other production company should buy the rights for the other James Bond books.

Won't happen.

Why not ?

[Qwerty]

They would not sell them and risk having a competing, or even just another Bond (competing or not) franchise.

[Agent007.5]

With CR looking like it will be the first Fleming novel to actually be turned into a film that is not just using the title, but is actually fairly close to the book, I was wondering if Bond 22 and future Bond adventures would also be based on the books. But since many of the titles come from the books as well as the villians names, than I'm wondering if they should rename the film and rename the villians. Also, I was wondering which books they should do. I would love to see a faithful adaptation of Moonraker as the next film after CR, but I don't know will they have to change the title, and what to. And what about the villian, what should they change his name to?

[Qwerty]

Topics merged.

[Mister Asterix]

[mra]Eon, or more correctly Danjaq, owns the rights to all of the James Bond continuation novels. They alone can make or not make them. This is not to say they wouldn

[tdalton]

I think that they should get the rights to Gardner's novels and make For Special Services into a film.

As long as Nena Blofeld and Cedar Leiter are nowhere near such a concept....sure...

I'd go with Icebreaker myself.

Icebreaker would be my next choice of novels to adapt.

If they were going to buy the rights to Benson's novels, I would like to see them make Doubleshot and Never Dream of Dying into films.

[Gri007]

It would be nice if they do make the Amis, Gardner and Benson into films. Now they have got CR perhaps they should use other Fleming titles

[Hawkeye]

There's certainly plenty to plunder still from Gardner's and Benson's novels. I think 'For Special Services' would be a great title to lift for a Bond film, but unfortunately too much has been used from that novel already (officially or not) as was pointed out in a cbn article - quoted below:

:For Special Services - Bond and heroine Cedar Leiter are trapped in a precariously balanced elevator in a Washington D.C. hotel.
A View to a Kill (1985) - Bond and heroine Stacey Sutton are trapped in a precariously balanced elevator in San Francisco's City Hall.

For Special Services - Villain Markus Bismaquer plots with crime syndicate SPECTER to gain control of a top secret star wars-like space-based satellite weapon known as Space Wolf.
GoldenEye (1995) - Villain Alec Trevelyn plots with crime syndicate JANUS to gain control of a top secret star wars-like space-based satellite weapon known as GoldenEye.

For Special Services - In a surprise twist at the end, the mastermind and true villain of the book is revealed to be the "victimized" Nena Bismaquer who seeks to avenge the death of her father. Having fallen in love with her while protecting her, Bond now kills her in cold blood in her isolated Everglades castle lair.
The World Is Not Enough (1999) - In a surprise twist at the end, the mastermind and true villain of the film is revealed to be the "victimized" Electra King who seeks to avenge the death of her mother. Having fallen in love with her while protecting her, Bond now kills her in cold blood in her isolated Istanbul castle lair.

So i would say scalp the title - it has an elegance to it and is directly related to Fleming - and use the plot from Nobody Lives For Ever.
I concur on Icebreaker, but since DAD another bond film with ice sets and ice palace etc so soon would look like recycling.

And i don't know about you chaps, but the torture scene from Colonel Sun where they probe Bond's facial orifices with wires would, in my humble opinion work very well on the screen. Whenever they mention the carpet beater in CR marathon Man's teeth drilling scene gets a mention. I think this scene from Colonel Sun could form a final entry in the big 3 of gruesome and harrowing tortures shown in movie theatres.

[Napoleon Solo]

[quote name='Mister Asterix' date='20 October 2005 - 17:50'][mra]Eon, or more correctly Danjaq, owns the rights to all of the James Bond continuation novels. They alone can make or not make them. This is not to say they wouldn

[B5Erik]

I wonder what would happen if another film company DID make an offer to buy the rights to one of the Gardner books.

Eon, I'm assuming, would have to match that offer or the other company would be able to make a movie based on that novel. So if Eon DID match the offer, would they be obligated to actually make the movie, or just pay for the rights?

-On the subject of the novels, I remember thinking when I read For Special Services how great a movie it would make (that was back around 1994 or so).

The Gardner books have some great titles that would make for great movie titles - Nobody Lives Forever; For Special Services; Icebreaker; Win, Lose, or Die; Death Is Forever.

[Gabriel]

At the very least, EON owns the rights to portray the characters on film (except for the Thunderball situation). It could theoretically be possible to buy the rights to a Gardner or Benson Bond, but you probably would have to change all the character names, Bond included . . .

Personally, I'd be in favour of adapting some of the books where the films have deviated wildly from the source material. The Spy Who Loved Me would be interesting, as would You Only Live Twice.

Edited by Gabriel, 24 October 2005 - 12:30 PM.

[hcmv007]

If they do them, here's my take:

Gardner: Licence Renewed, For Special Services (Make Cedar Felix's sister), Role of Honor

Benson: Union Trilogy, Man w/ the Red Tatoo

Amis: Colonol Sun

[Qwerty]

If they do them, here's my take:

Gardner:  Licence Renewed, For Special Services (Make Cedar Felix's sister), Role of Honor

If they did Gardner and started with those books above, they should at least include Nobody Lives Forever as well since it finishes off the Blofeld trilogy and is widely considered one of Gardner's best.

[DLibrasnow]

This very question has been broached before several times in CBn's past.

Basically Cubby Broccoli always said "Why pay for the rights to a book when we can commission original scripts of our own?"

Also the rights issues are very murky. Danjaq does not own the film rights to the novels, they have the right to first refusal.

[K1Bond007]

Well if they were going to go this route, I think Nobody Lives For Ever would be a pretty swank follow up to CR if the latest report (see front page) is true. Obviously update and change some characters/organizations around.

..or Bond 23, but this would be a fantastic film (if adapted right). Very much a From Russia With Love type of film.

[Flash1087]

Actually, in an alternate universe, instead of Craig's first being Casino Royale, I'd like to see what it might've been like had his debut been Licence Renewed. Without the whole 'reboot' it would sort of make a little sense, chronologically, right after DAD.

[Double-Oh Agent]

I would like to see them make films of the continuation novels as well. There are a lot of good plots, characters, and source material to choose from. EON doesn't have to follow them explicity. Shoot, they often haven't done with Ian Fleming's stuff, but it still would be nice to see.

If they ever did decide to film the continuation novels, which, unfortunately, I don't think they will--at least not in the forseeable future, I think the first one they should do is Kingsley Amis' Colonel Sun. After that, the first John Gardner novel turned into a movie should be either License Renewed or Nobody Lives Forever and the first of Raymond Benson's books to be filmed should be High Time To Kill.

[sam29]

I think that they should make the none Flaming Bond books into Bond movies after Casino Royale.

Edited by sam29, 19 April 2006 - 12:45 PM.

[DLibrasnow]

This subject has been covered in depth before in other threads.

[Diabolik]

I agree. While not all of Gardner's books are great, using them as a strong literary foundation is IMHO essential to keeping Bond movies viable.

The "original" scripts of late are SO formula and empty of any inspiration they are just plain boring. (And CR is promising, because of the central premise and characters being based on the classic book).

I would love to see "Nobody Lives Forever" and a "Licence Renewed" make it to the screen. And while "Scorpius" and "Brokenclaw" aren't great, they could be the basis for a great film. They have the classic Bond super-villian and could be improved on, like GF was improved on from the book.

In the case of "Nobody Lives Forever," if EON can't use SPECTRE (Can they, now that the McClory thing is settled?) EON could change SPECTRE to this "new terrorist organization" they are introducting in CR.

[DLibrasnow]

sam29...looking it up, you yourself have already started a thread on this subject. Please stop spamming the board by starting threads on the same subject.

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