46 replies to this topic

[Righty007]

This is my understanding of the situation.

MI6 Staff

James Bond - Daniel Craig
M - Judi Dench
Carter - ?
Villiers - ?

Allies

Vesper Lynd - ?
Felix Leiter - ?
Rene Mathis - ?

Villains

Chief Dryden - ?
Fisher - ?
Steven Obanno - ?
Mr. White - ?
Le Chiffre - Mads Mikkelsen
Valenka - ?
Bomber - ?
Kratt - ?
Alex Demitrios - Simon Abkarian
Solange - Catrina Murino
Solari - Seydina Baldi

Other Cast

Croupier - Carlos Leal
Swiss Banker - Ludger Pistor
? - J

Edited by Righty007, 16 February 2006 - 01:43 AM.

[Righty007]

I hope a post-Licence To Kill Felix Leiter makes an appearance in Casino Royale.

[Harmsway]

I hope a post-Licence To Kill Felix Leiter makes an appearance in Casino Royale.

Why would a post-LTK Leiter appear? It's a reboot. If Leiter's in it, he'll likely be standard. I doubt Leiter will appear at all, though.

[DLibrasnow]

I think the character of Demetrius is Le Chiffre. As we all know Le Chiffre was just a French alias for the villain. With France dropped as a location I think this led to the name being dropped and Demetrius adopted instead.

[Righty007]

I hope a post-Licence To Kill Felix Leiter makes an appearance in Casino Royale.

Why would a post-LTK Leiter appear? It's a reboot. If Leiter's in it, he'll likely be standard. I doubt Leiter will appear at all, though.

Judi Dench is M and Daniel Craig is 37 years old. Filming hasn't even started. I'll believe in the "reboot" when I see M say, "Welcome to the Service, 007. How much do you know about gambling?"

[Righty007]

I think the character of Demetrius is Le Chiffre. As we all know Le Chiffre was just a French alias for the villain. With France dropped as a location I think this led to the name being dropped and Demetrius adopted instead.

Stax's report suggests that the "Main Villain" and Demetrius are two different characters.

[Andrew]

I think the character of Demetrius is Le Chiffre. As we all know Le Chiffre was just a French alias for the villain. With France dropped as a location I think this led to the name being dropped and Demetrius adopted instead.

Stax's report suggests that the "Main Villain" and Demetrius are two different characters.

Nothing said that Le Chiffre has to be the main villian of the film.

[dinovelvet]

I hope a post-Licence To Kill Felix Leiter makes an appearance in Casino Royale.

Why would a post-LTK Leiter appear? It's a reboot. If Leiter's in it, he'll likely be standard. I doubt Leiter will appear at all, though.

Well we know there is going to be an American CIA agent aged 30-40 in it. Regardless of what they call this character in CR, we will all know its really Felix Leiter.

[Righty007]

I hope a post-Licence To Kill Felix Leiter makes an appearance in Casino Royale.

Why would a post-LTK Leiter appear? It's a reboot. If Leiter's in it, he'll likely be standard. I doubt Leiter will appear at all, though.

Well we know there is going to be an American CIA agent aged 30-40 in it. Regardless of what they call this character in CR, we will all know its really Felix Leiter.

Lets just hope that "Felix Leiter" doesn't look like Joe Don Baker.

[DLibrasnow]

I think the character of Demetrius is Le Chiffre. As we all know Le Chiffre was just a French alias for the villain. With France dropped as a location I think this led to the name being dropped and Demetrius adopted instead.

Stax's report suggests that the "Main Villain" and Demetrius are two different characters.

I don't think the Le Chiffre character (renamed here as Demetrius) is the main villain.

[Righty007]

I think the character of Demetrius is Le Chiffre. As we all know Le Chiffre was just a French alias for the villain. With France dropped as a location I think this led to the name being dropped and Demetrius adopted instead.

Stax's report suggests that the "Main Villain" and Demetrius are two different characters.

I don't think the Le Chiffre character (renamed here as Demetrius) is the main villain.

Perhaps but I'm giving Purvis and Wade the benefit of the doubt in hoping they will stay true to the book as best as they can.

[Harmsway]

I hope a post-Licence To Kill Felix Leiter makes an appearance in Casino Royale.

Why would a post-LTK Leiter appear? It's a reboot. If Leiter's in it, he'll likely be standard. I doubt Leiter will appear at all, though.

Judi Dench is M and Daniel Craig is 37 years old. Filming hasn't even started. I'll believe in the "reboot" when I see M say, "Welcome to the Service, 007. How much do you know about gambling?"

Campbell talked about it, Craig recently talked about it recently when commenting on the script, come on, how much more proof do you need?

[Righty007]

I hope a post-Licence To Kill Felix Leiter makes an appearance in Casino Royale.

Why would a post-LTK Leiter appear? It's a reboot. If Leiter's in it, he'll likely be standard. I doubt Leiter will appear at all, though.

Judi Dench is M and Daniel Craig is 37 years old. Filming hasn't even started. I'll believe in the "reboot" when I see M say, "Welcome to the Service, 007. How much do you know about gambling?"

Campbell talked about it, Craig recently talked about it recently when commenting on the script, come on, how much more proof do you need?

They thought about making The Living Daylights a "reboot" too. I've seen that film a few times and it seems normal to me.

[Harmsway]

They thought about making The Living Daylights a "reboot" too. I've seen that film a few times and it seems normal to me.

Yeah, but that was long before the film actually really got into production. Let's not be silly. We have every reason to believe it's a reboot, and no indication that that has changed, and even have recent interviews to back that up. To be skeptical just to be skeptical makes no sense.

[Righty007]

They thought about making The Living Daylights a "reboot" too. I've seen that film a few times and it seems normal to me.

Yeah, but that was long before the film actually really got into production. Let's not be silly. We have every reason to believe it's a reboot, and no indication that that has changed, and even have recent interviews to back that up. To be skeptical just to be skeptical makes no sense.

I believe there's truth in the "reboot" idea but we don't really know what's going to be rebooted. Eveyrthing is very vague/opaque at this point. It seems a little odd for a 37 year old James Bond to be going on a first mission especially without Sir Miles Messervy as M.

[Harmsway]

I believe theres truth in the "reboot" idea but we don't really know what's going to be rebooted. It seems a little odd for a 37 year old James Bond to be going on a first mission especially without Sir Miles Messervy as M.

If it's a reboot, I don't think it's odd at all about their choice for M - they never said they were trying to be faithful to the beginnings of the character (he supposedly "gets" the Aston Martin within the storyline of CASINO ROYALE, so that contradicts GOLDFINGER). It's not a prequel - it's a reboot, a semi-rewriting of history (that is if you believe in continuity in the Bond series - I don't).

The age of Craig did make me raise an eyebrow, however, but that doesn't give me reason to doubt what they've said. Just perhaps a reason to take issue with it a bit.

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

I believe theres truth in the "reboot" idea but we don't really know what's going to be rebooted. It seems a little odd for a 37 year old James Bond to be going on a first mission especially without Sir Miles Messervy as M.

If it's a reboot, I don't think it's odd at all about their choice for M - they never said they were trying to be faithful to the beginnings of the character (he supposedly "gets" the Aston Martin within the storyline of CASINO ROYALE, so that contradicts GOLDFINGER). It's not a prequel - it's a reboot, a semi-rewriting of history (that is if you believe in continuity in the Bond series - I don't).

The age of Craig did make me raise an eyebrow, however, but that doesn't give me reason to doubt what they've said. Just perhaps a reason to take issue with it a bit.

I think the idea of the reboot is more to throw out the old countinuity much like Batman Begins and the previous Bat-films and restart anew and fresh. I think is the new James Bond in more ways than one. The casting of Dench as M would be a way to ease the audience into this new countinuity by bringing back a face the audience knows.

[medrecess]

Le Chiffre -Gulshan Grover

Wait and see till month end.

[Double-Oh Agent]

I believe theres truth in the "reboot" idea but we don't really know what's going to be rebooted. It seems a little odd for a 37 year old James Bond to be going on a first mission especially without Sir Miles Messervy as M.

If it's a reboot, I don't think it's odd at all about their choice for M - they never said they were trying to be faithful to the beginnings of the character (he supposedly "gets" the Aston Martin within the storyline of CASINO ROYALE, so that contradicts GOLDFINGER). It's not a prequel - it's a reboot, a semi-rewriting of history (that is if you believe in continuity in the Bond series - I don't).

The age of Craig did make me raise an eyebrow, however, but that doesn't give me reason to doubt what they've said. Just perhaps a reason to take issue with it a bit.

A semi-rewriting of history? A female M instead of Miles Messervy as 007's boss, pushing forward Bond's first use of the Aston Martin in the timeframe and ignoring the Bentley, delaying Bond's first meeting with Moneypenny and Q, Bond's likely not using the Beretta, and totally revising the Rene Mathis character. That's semi-rewriting history? I'd hate to see your definition of a full-blown rewrite.

I, for one, hate the reboot idea and also believe in the continuity--albeit somewhat relative continuity--in the series. I'm even one of those people you might consider an oddball who thinks that the Sean Connery Bond is the same as the Pierce Brosnan Bond as is all the men in between. They're just actors playing the role of James Bond 007 as they re-enact the updated exploits of his adventures.

By the way, Harmsway, I know I've disagreed with you quite a bit lately, but I'm not trying to pick on you. I enjoy reading your posts even though we differ every so often--lately it's been enough that I just feel compelled to respond. Catch you around your next post.

[Rolex]

M : Welcome to British Secret Service Commander , 00 SECTION your code name is James Bond , and Licence to Kill number is 007. We have had previous naval officers under your code name who have served with distinction, I expect you to follow their example. Now i have a mission for you
Just an idea how to reboot , probably will be shot down in flames

[Harmsway]

A semi-rewriting of history? A female M instead of Miles Messervy as 007's boss, pushing forward Bond's first use of the Aston Martin in the timeframe and ignoring the Bentley, delaying Bond's first meeting with Moneypenny and Q, Bond's likely not using the Beretta, and totally revising the Rene Mathis character. That's semi-rewriting history? I'd hate to see your definition of a full-blown rewrite.

Okay, a huge rewriting of history. But EON's Bond was never Fleming's Bond to begin with, so I was more referring to the rewriting of EON Bond history, not Fleming Bond history. EON's Bond and Fleming's Bond are two distinct creations, and I see no reason to merge the two.

I, for one, hate the reboot idea and also believe in the continuity--albeit somewhat relative continuity--in the series. I'm even one of those people you might consider an oddball who thinks that the Sean Connery Bond is the same as the Pierce Brosnan Bond as is all the men in between. They're just actors playing the role of James Bond 007 as they re-enact the updated exploits of his adventures.

It's find to believe this, but I just don't really see any reason to. The movies are too inconsistent in style, characterization, time frame, all that to ever convince me they're one and the same. I don't believe it follows in a timeline.

I believe that each is kind of an alternate universe. Same basic themes, different interpretation. Kind of the way that a comic book character can be reinvented over and over again without necessarily having the same continuity, and even have winks at the other continuities.

I just don't find it practical to believe in a continuity and since I never, ever really found it possible in my mind to believe that Connery and Brosnan's Bond were one and the same, I don't mind the reboot one bit. Maybe if the movies had actually tied together aside from the odd *wink, wink, nudge, nudge* moment, I would have cared. But the character hasn't grown or developed, and thus there's not really a history they're throwing out. The history as far as the movies are concerned is pretty inexistant, because it rarely comes into play.

[Righty007]

Updated.

[SecretAgentFan]

The real question is: If the Daily Mirror is right and Rose Byrne will be announced on Friday, does that mean there will be another press conference where EON will announce the whole cast?

[DLibrasnow]

Updated.

No problem Chris....I'm sorry I was right, I personally would have liked to have seen a more faithful CASINO ROYALE.

[Harmsway]

We can only hope that QT gets his paws on the original story and gets to do the real Fleming deal one day. I guess it is the only way we'll ever get the true CR story in a gritty way.

I just want to point out that Bond fans who've read the Fleming novels are the only ones who honestly care about that. As long as the movie's good, the public isn't going to flinch. The movie Bond is honestly a far more famous thing than Fleming's.

It's a good book and all, but since I've always enjoyed the movies as separate creations, I don't mind seeing an unfaithful adaptation. A truly, ultra-faithful adaptation of CASINO ROYALE would probably be only of interest to Bond fans anyway because of how low-key it is. It would be the most low-key Bond film released to date, and would even be more low-key than the Bourne films.

I would love to see a faithful, QT adaptation. But I realize that's just my fanboy dreams, and that they're unrealistic and just something that I as a Bond fan would care about. At any rate, I think EON's version may very well be more entertaining and fun than a strict CASINO ROYALE adaptation would have been anyway.

[saltnpepper]

Apparently Balde has signed for a role : he's on the guest list of the CP pre-shoot party !

[Lounge Lizard]

Just picking up where the 'reboot' discussion left off: I too agree that there is no such thing as strict continuity to the Bond movies, and that every new actor means a reboot of sorts.

But still, this will be the reboot that will erase one vital element that did unite the interpretations of all the earlier Bond actors: the Cold War. Connery, Lazenby, Moore and Dalton were all 'active' during the Cold War, and Brosnan's Bond was always referred to as a Cold War veteran. Craig's Bond will be the first Bond without a Cold War record; he'll be a contemporary 007 groomed for the War on Terror.

Not that I regret losing the Cold War element, I think that's good (and it would be silly trying to keep that element for its own sake, when using a lead actor who was 21 years old when the Berlin Wall fell), but it is, in my opinion, the most significant aspect of a rebooted Bond in the 21th Century.

[Shaun Forever]

If it's a reebot (ignoring all the other films - The Bond History) then I will refuse to watch it.

[marktmurphy]

If it's a reebot (ignoring all the other films - The Bond History) then I will refuse to watch it.

It's a reboot. There's no doubt is there?

[Harmsway]

If it's a reebot (ignoring all the other films - The Bond History) then I will refuse to watch it.

It's a reboot. There's no doubt is there?

Guess Shaun's not going to check it out. His loss.