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[Ry]

Later this summer AFI will announce the 25 Top Film Scores of the last 100 years. There have been 250 nominations on the list and once again 007 has made it! "Goldfinger", "Tomorrow Never Dies" (a little surprise there) and the unofficial Bond film "Casino Royale" were all nominated. Other famous films to make the nomination list included "Jaws", "Raiders of the Lost Ark", "Braveheart" and "Casablanca" just to name a few. To make the list the score had to have a "creative impact", "historical significance", and a "legacy". For more information on the list and AFI's other 100 Years winners see the links below.

www.afi.com

http://www.afi.com/t...ars/scores.aspx

http://www.afi.com/D...f/scores250.pdf

[Mister Asterix]

[mra]Tomorrow Never Dies and no On Her Majesty’s Secret Service.

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[Ry]

I was surprised as well Asterix. I love the OHMSS score and thought it should be on there above TND. Sadly we aren't the ones who get to make those decisions.

[Mr. Somerset]

Tomorrow Never Dies???????????????????????????
I like the score, but dang!
Glad to see Bond in the list, though.

[K1Bond007]

[quote name='Mister Asterix' date='11 May 2005 - 14:25'][mra]Tomorrow Never Dies and no On Her Majesty’s Secret Service.

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[Qwerty]

Kind of a nice surprise to see Tomorrow Never Dies on there.

[Dunph]

On Her Majesty’s Secret Serviceis Barry's best work. Not Goldfinger! Well, that's what I always thought.

[doublenoughtspy]

We should start a write in campaign for OHMSS.

[Turn]

These AFI lists are among the most subjective things ever. Just take a look at some of the nominees and ask yourself why? I mean have you ever even heard of the film Anthony Adverse, much less the score? Captain From Castile? Green Dolphin Street? Louisiana Story? You get the picture.

I'm betting Goldfinger makes it, but the rest will be pretty predictable with the usual smatterings of stuff you may not have heard as much.

I have to admit, though, I'm a sucker for watching these three-hour marathons. Even if it is just a bunch of famous faces gushing about the films.

[homerjbond]

Maybe John Barry has too many on the list to warrant another nomination (GF over OHMSS because it is more recognizable thus more historically significant)

Plus with James Bond as being an integral part of cinema, they wanted one from a modern Bond flick as well. Truth be told, TND does feature the best score of the recent Bonds, it was Arnold's "primer" from which all of his subsequent scores are based.

[Qwerty]

On Her Majesty’s Secret Serviceis Barry's best work. Not Goldfinger! Well, that's what I always thought.

On Her Majesty’s Secret Service and Moonraker for Barry's best.

[Doctor Shatterhand]

These AFI lists are among the most subjective things ever. Just take a look at some of the nominees and ask yourself why? I mean have you ever even heard of the film Anthony Adverse, much less the score? Captain From Castile? Green Dolphin Street? Louisiana Story? You get the picture.

I'm betting Goldfinger makes it, but the rest will be pretty predictable with the usual smatterings of stuff you may not have heard as much.

I have to admit, though, I'm a sucker for watching these three-hour marathons. Even if it is just a bunch of famous faces gushing about the films.

The soundtracks for Captain From Castile and Green Dolphin Street are unique and memorable musical scores. Green Dolphin Street has a theme that is very haunting. I highly recommend these films for viewing, keeping in mind the year they were made, the fact that they are black and white, and the production value.

On the otherhand, I was sadden too that OHMSS was not mentioned. Let alone my personal favorite You Only Live Twice. Live and Let Die was left off the list too. However, I am pleased that Goldfinger, Body Heat, Born Free, The Lion In Winter, Dances With Wolves, Out of Africa, and Somewhere In Time - all John Barry scores. Not to forget Bernard Herrmann's masterpiece North By Northwest.

I am also pointing out David Arnold's Tomorrow Never Dies score. I feel that this is the best of the contemporary Bond scores since The Living Daylights and certainly since OHMSS. Arnold must be very pleased that this score made the list so far. His Stargate score isn't even there, and I thought that was brilliant in its own way.

Anyway, congratulations to all film composers who made the list or not. Their work is memorable in so many ways. Without their contribution, movies would be dull.

[SPECTRE ASSASSIN]

On Her Majesty’s Secret Serviceis Barry's best work. Not Goldfinger! Well, that's what I always thought.

On Her Majesty’s Secret Service and Moonraker for Barry's best.

I'm campaigning From Russia With Love.

[Ry]

Well put Dr. Shatterhand!

[Taro Todoroki]

TND would not be at the top of my list of best Bond scores, but I am still glad it made this list.

Edited by Taro Todoroki, 13 May 2005 - 02:23 AM.

[IanFleming1953]

Goldfinger was probably picked because the film (and score) is the epitome of all things Bond.
TND was probably picked because the score is arguably the best non-Barry Bond score.

[trumanlodge89]

Kind of a nice surprise to see Tomorrow Never Dies on there.

i agree... i like TND, although OHMSS should be on there also. hell, YOLT could be on there too.

[Qwerty]

TND might be allright by some, but in no way can it represent the Bondseries it does not belong to the classics in the series.

It is good to see that Barry has done so well in the list.

Not a classic yet, but still a great score.

[Doctor Shatterhand]

TND might be allright by some, but in no way can it represent the Bondseries it does not belong to the classics in the series.

It is good to see that Barry has done so well in the list.

True, but if you notice that the AFI selected the most memorable score (GF), the best of the non-John Barry scores (TND) and a non-Eon score (CR-67). A tough choice overall. Has anyone noticed that only two Frankenstein scores were selected (Bride of Frankenstein and Ghost of Frankenstein) There were seven films centered around this character during the Universal Classic Monster days. The music back than was very memorable but they still had to choose among seven films.

[Mazinkaiser]

Tomorrow Never Dies? I love the movie, but it doesn't have a memorable score.

[Qwerty]

Tomorrow Never Dies? I love the movie, but it doesn't have a memorable score.

No parts of it stuck out for you?

[Dunph]

Tomorrow Never Dies? I love the movie, but it doesn't have a memorable score.

Surely the other way round, Mazinkaiser?

[Mazinkaiser]

TND is my favorite Brosnan film. Other than the title song, I wasn't that impressed with the score.

[tdalton]

TND is my favorite Brosnan film.   Other than the title song, I wasn't that impressed with the score.

I wasn't that impressed with the score either, and I think that AFI could have picked much better Bond films to have on this list, such as the scores for: On Her Majesty's Secret Service and The Living Daylights.

[Qwerty]

TND is my favorite Brosnan film.   Other than the title song, I wasn't that impressed with the score.

Best Brosnan Bond film with the Best Brosnan Bond film score.

[Turn]

TND might be allright by some, but in no way can it represent the Bondseries it does not belong to the classics in the series.

It is good to see that Barry has done so well in the list.

True, but if you notice that the AFI selected the most memorable score (GF), the best of the non-John Barry scores (TND) and a non-Eon score (CR-67). A tough choice overall. Has anyone noticed that only two Frankenstein scores were selected (Bride of Frankenstein and Ghost of Frankenstein) There were seven films centered around this character during the Universal Classic Monster days. The music back than was very memorable but they still had to choose among seven films.

I like your theory here and can add some. While many of us would agree that OHMSS was Barry at his pinnacle, the film suffers from being "the one with that other guy" and therefore not the showcase film Goldfinger is. It is the film that kicked off the spy trend, started a new trend of blockbuster film and set the mode for spy music as well as a smash title song.

In looking over the list again, we are pretty lucky that there is more than one Bond score at all as many other series were represented by just one film. I thought The Empire Strikes Back should have been nominated, for instance. Considering it uses some themes heard in Star Wars, it was probably thrown out on that basis and probably why most subsequent Barry Bond scores were not considered.

[SnakeEyes]

Bah i'm with Asterix on this one: big farce to have TND/GF before OHMSS.

Nice, however, is the CR nomination. Perhaps finally getting some wide-spread respect.

"Tomorrow Never Dies? I love the movie, but it doesn't have a memorable score."
"No parts of it stuck out for you?"

Only like a sore thumb (Score and film) Although I will say that 'Surrender' is good.

[Loomis]

TOMORROW NEVER DIES is a mediocre film (and one of the least impressive of the Bonds), and the score is nothing to write home about. Who was Arnold sleeping with to get on this list?

[Qwerty]

Only like a sore thumb (Score and film) Although I will say that 'Surrender' is good.

LOL. At least Surrender gets a nod then.