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[SecretAgent007]

I thought you guys might like to see the catalog photos of the Falcon. It is the shoulder holster that Dalton wore in LTK. It was manufactured by Galco, for only one year. The design was originally created by Paris Theodore, of Seventrees (same company that developed the ASP pistol that Bond uses in many of the Gardner novels). He had a patent on the holster. He sold his holster company to Ken Null of Null Holsters LTD. The Seventrees/Null version is called the SMZ and is still available today. Galco is famous for ripping off other holster makers designs. They were required to stop manufacturing the holster because of the patent issue.

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[IndyB007]

Pretty neat.... now where did I put my Walther???

[Bryce (003)]

I must say that's pretty cool. My rig for the ASP is a similar design, and doesn't look very practical. However, it's easily the greatest holster I've ever worn and with practice, the gun draws faster than any break-away or spring loaded rig. It's also easily concelaed under and jacket or casual shirt without a trip to the tailor.

[SecretAgent007]

Bryce, if your ASP holster is made out of a white translucent plastic, it is one of Ken's SMZ holsters. This Galco rig is a knockoff of the SMZ. The SMZ would be better with wider straps. Actually revolvers work a little better than auto's in inverted shoulder rigs. The curvature of a revolvers grip makes it easier to grasp. Ken makes a version of the SMZ called the City Slicker that is for revolvers only. The SMZ is available for revolvers too. I bought my first ASP pistol from Ken. He made all of the holsters for Armament Systems in Wisconsin. I used to have one of the first ASP's (#13) from Seventrees in NY, but had a problem. The trigger guard fractured on the underside. I re-welded it, but decided to sell it. Anything like that and I loose confidence in the gun. Should have kept it though. The NY guns weren't as refined looking as the WI guns. I still have the only 469 that was ever converted though. It was the last gun they converted.

The great thing about this type of carry is that the gun rests on your breast. Most suits are cut loosely around this area, so the gun doesn't print. The only downfall is that, as with a horizontal shoulder rig, when you draw the weapon you are breaking one of the cardinal roles of carrying/shooting. You're pointing the weapon at something you do not intend to destroy.

Bryce, you live in LA and carry? Do you have a concealed weapons permit? Hard to get one in LA. Ever notice the places you really need to carry don't allow it?

Edited by SecretAgent007, 05 April 2005 - 02:11 AM.

[Bryce (003)]

It is now impossible to get a CWP in LA if you aren't law enforcement or military, but I was working armed security since '89 and kept up my fees and qualification every six months. I got sort of "grand-fathered" into the clause as a result. It also allows me to carry my baton.

I still take on the occasional work if I get the right offer. My rig for the ASP in Ken Nulls and is black and riveted. The first week I had it, I loaded up a full clip of dummy 9mm's and took the advice of my buddy Paladin - I wore it around the house and just begain practicing based on the guidelines mentioned in the manual.

I've gotten rather good at fast pull double-tap at twenty yards and the combination of both pistol and rig is remarkable. Don't know that I'd call myself great, but I'm appraoching damn good.

Mine's number 248.

Sounds like we've treaded some the same soil SA007....and a dark alley or two. Cheers!

[SnakeEyes]

"Bryce, you live in LA and carry? Do you have a concealed weapons permit? Hard to get one in LA. Ever notice the places you really need to carry don't allow it?"

Try living in the UK mate. We can't even own a pistol. At all. Armed crime is higher than the rest of the world almost, too.

For home defence I have a 6mm Browning High Power MK3 gas air gun. I'll give them welts on their face if they rob me!

[SecretAgent007]

Bryce, I was wondering about the permit. LA County has only issued something like 10 new permits in the last 5 or so years. I used to carry an ASP all the time. I have some stuff I'm working on that is going to be posted on here about the ASP history. Some of the pics have the Sevetrees can and Hush Puppy attached. The gun is laying over a passport with the last 3 digits showing that are "007" I think I may know your pal Paladin. Did he used to work for CIA and lives in FL?

Sounds like you have the USH. Are there 2 snaps at the back of the holster? You kind of turn the gun sideways to release the snaps?

Is your ASP a NY gun too? If it is a NY gun the guttersnipe and mag base pads would be aluminum, if it's a WI gun, they are plastic.

I reside in PA, they issue carry permits to anyone here Plus we can have class 3 weapons.

Edited by SecretAgent007, 06 April 2005 - 12:30 AM.

[Stansted]

SecretAgent007 - Has your history of the ASP or photos of the weapon been posted elsewhere on this Forum?

[SecretAgent007]

Stansted, I'm just getting around to writing the article for Cbn. All of my ASP pistols are at a private exhibit right now. So, I have to wait to do the photos.

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

Stansted, I'm just getting around to writing the article for Cbn.  All of my ASP pistols are at a private exhibit right now. So, I have to wait to do the photos.

No rush but can't wait to see the article. I've always been a fan of this gun.

I don't happen to own one, but I do have the Smith and Wesson 439, so close enough! Well, maybe not, but you get the idea.

[Stansted]

SecretAgent007 - Look forward to the article when it is ready.

[SecretAgent007]

[quote name='ComplimentsOfSharky' date='25 October 2005 - 21:49']I don't happen to own one, but I do have the Smith and Wesson 439, so close enough!

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Edited by SecretAgent007, 29 October 2005 - 05:54 PM.

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

[quote name='SecretAgent007' date='29 October 2005 - 17:53'][quote name='ComplimentsOfSharky' date='25 October 2005 - 21:49']I don't happen to own one, but I do have the Smith and Wesson 439, so close enough!

[Asp9mm]

Thought you may be interested in this:

http://hometown.aol....age/gadget.html

[Stansted]

SecretAgent007 -

Is there any news on your ASP article?

[SecretAgent007]

Stansted, I have about 3-4 pages done, but haven't had anytime to conduct some of the interviews that I need. Plus, I've been so disillusioned with all the Casino Royale stuff, I've put it on the back burner. I haven't' been on here too much lately. I'm meeting with a few people at the SHOT show this week who knew Paris, so I should be able to get myself motivated to work on it when I get back.

[Stansted]

SecretAgent007 - Thanks for the update and enjoy the SHOT show.

[Stansted]

SecretAgent007

Any news on your article?

[Jericho_One]

I thought you guys might like to see the catalog photos of the Falcon. It is the shoulder holster that Dalton wore in LTK. It was manufactured by Galco, for only one year. The design was originally created by Paris Theodore, of Seventrees (same company that developed the ASP pistol that Bond uses in many of the Gardner novels). He had a patent on the holster. He sold his holster company to Ken Null of Null Holsters LTD. The Seventrees/Null version is called the SMZ and is still available today. Galco is famous for ripping off other holster makers designs. They were required to stop manufacturing the holster because of the patent issue.

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Nice. Thanks for posting.
I like these kinds of stuff a lot.