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#1 Loomis

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Posted 14 February 2005 - 10:48 PM

Leave your hopes and dreams at the door of this thread, please, people.

What I want to know is: what's your gut feeling? We all know who we all want (Qwerty Jackman, Seannery Paul, zencat Brosnan, Mister Asterix Jason Isaacs ( :) ), myself Owen, etc.), but, look, do we need yet another thread discussing who should be Bond?

Didn't think so.

So, then, by way of an interesting spin (hopefully) on the usual speculation over the star of CASINO ROYALE, how about a thread in which we reveal who we think are the most likely candidates to get the gig? Of course, if you truly believe, deep down, that, say, Jackman will be Bond 6, then by all means cite him, but no more spin and wishful thinking, please. I'll start the ball rolling:

I'm expecting Dominic West. A sort of "poor man's Owen", really - cheaper, presumably more controllable, probably more willing to risk being stereotyped by Bond, and to commit to a multi-film deal, etc. Jack Davenport, Ioan Gruffudd, James Purefoy and, I'm afraid to say, Orlando Bloom all strike me as real possibilities, too. I think it may well be the case that Eon is looking for an actor in (or not too far outside) the 28-32 range.

#2 Agent 76

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Posted 14 February 2005 - 10:55 PM

I think they might announce James Purefoy, for almost the same reasons you said Dominic West. A more "controlable" star, with a few good works behind him, and willing to add his name to Bond franchise.

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Posted 14 February 2005 - 11:16 PM

Dominic West. Jack Davenport is my favorite, but I'm afraid he doesn't have the familiar face that West does in these here parts.

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Posted 14 February 2005 - 11:18 PM

Probably Dougray Scott - no reason really, like you said, just a gut feeling.

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Posted 14 February 2005 - 11:54 PM

Gerard Butler. Rising star and better looking than Dougray Scott and Dominic West. Appears to have come out well from The Phantom of the Opera where he was praised for his acting but not his singing,

#6 hrabb04

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 12:10 AM

Since my last guess was too vulgar, I'll just say I believe Barbara Brocolli's dentist will get the nod. After all, Michael Wilson's martial arts instructor got the part of Chang in Moonraker, anything is possible, right?

#7 Bon-san

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 12:27 AM

My Spidey Sense has been tingling to the tune of Gerard Butler.

#8 Qwerty

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 01:16 AM

Interesting thread Loomis. You're dead on that I want Jackman, but I really think with all of the recent news and such that Clive Owen will be James Bond #6.

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 01:29 AM

I'd like to plumb for "zencat Brosnan". :) :)

I have a gut feeling that we're going to get Hugh Jackman. Not purely because he's got a natural 'transition' from Brosnan, but he's incredibly fit and bright and optimistic.

Clive Owen ( for me ) just doesn't "cut the cloth", because he's too 'gruff' for the part. He's also doesn't look like a Naval Officer type, and a natural gentleman like Jackman. He looks more like a baddie than a hero.

Cheers,


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Posted 15 February 2005 - 02:59 AM

I think .... :).....


It will be...

Clive Owen :)

Gosh Dang it! :)


That's my gut feeling...Cambell directed him in Beyond Borders and thinks very highly of him and so does the Hollywood establishment(Oscar Nod).Also, it fits with the Casino Royale adaptation to cast a Bond who's in the Fleming mold... Croupier just seems like the perfect training camp for Bond too, especially a Casino intensive storyline :) ! That's both a prediction and wishful thinking... :) :)

#11 JimmyBond

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 05:56 AM

My gut feeling to, says Owen. It's not wishful thinking on my part (well, maybe it is). But i also really believe Owen will get it :)

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 06:14 AM

[mra]For some unknown reason, I

#13 [dark]

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 06:25 AM

The dumping of Brosnan is unprecedented, so I'm thinking we might get another unprecedented occurance [Connery and Lazenby excepted], with the hiring of an unknown. Or a near-unknown [something along the lines of your Dominic Wests, your Dougray Scotts, etc].

It's probably the right move, too. Sure, it blew up in Eon's face with the hiring of George Lazenby for On Her Majesty’s Secret Service, following five successful Connery films, but the public is used to the changing face of 007 now.

Established actors such as Jackman or Owen would most likely live in Brosnan's shadow, in my opinion, but a new actor may be seen as a new approach to the role.

Just my opinion, but I'm betting on a [near-]unknown.

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 08:38 AM

Ewan McGregor or Jack Davenport.

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 08:59 AM

I think it will be Clive Owen,i just think he will be right for Casino royale,hard edged and totally beliveable.

I would however also welcome Gerard Butler i think he could be someone who grows in the role and make many Bond films in years to come.

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 09:00 AM

Ewan McGregor? Really?

I suppose I could see why some would find him a decent choice [though, I don't think there's a worse person out there for the job], but I just can't picture him and Eon teaming up to bring us a Bond flick.

Just wondering what your rationale is in thinking he's who you think we'll get, YOLT? :)

#17 spynovelfan

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 09:33 AM

I'm pretty sure Jackman is out of the running, because he just signed a three-picture deal with Disney for musicals. I can't see it being Dougray Scott, because he played the Sean Bean role in a rival spy franchise, and I think that's a no. I don't think it will be Davenport - too young, far too unknown outside the UK, and too known in the UK for playing twits. McGregor's far too famous and has STAR WARS already. Jude Law's too famous and doesn't look like Bond. Ditto Hugh Grant. Dominic West - I can't see them going for someone so ugly.

For me, the candidates are

Owen
Purefoy, Butler, Gruffudd or someone along those lines - mid-ranking, British, been screen-tested or mentioned a lot, conventiknally good-looking.
Someone we've not even considered: Daniel Craig, Richard Armitage, Hugh Dancy. :)

I don't know what to make of Owen's denials. In the American issue of Esquire on news-stands now, with Owen on the cover, there's this:

'There are signs that he's less diamond-hard than he used to be. He's stopped smoking; on film, he's puffing herbals. He's become something of a fashion dandy. Even when he's down at the pub he'll wear a suit, albeit something understated, quiet and mob smooth like his acting. The watch he's wearing today is understated, too, but expensive and elegant. He's even been cast by public opinion as the next James Bond. Now it's just a question of how he'll play it: Sean Connery or Roger Moore?'

The herbals thing is worrying - what will Lark do? :) But seriously - these articles are vetted. Owen and his agent would have read it. They haven't directly asked him about it (same as the GQ article a couple of months back), but they've mentioned it. Now it's just a question of how he'll play it? I don't know. It would be easy enough for him to say, once signed, that he never talks about projects until they're done deals, and that if he'd said anything else beforehand it would have affected negotiations. Which I think would be true - anything but a flat-out denial from Owen would have the world presuming he's the next Bond. They're practically doing that already (see above). But then, perhaps it's all just wishful thinking (a la Jackman and Adrian Paul fans!), in which case I think Butler might be next to don the tux.

Edited by spynovelfan, 15 February 2005 - 09:36 AM.


#18 spynovelfan

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 11:43 AM

On the BBC site after the Baftas:

'[Owen] says job offers are flooding in but what about rumours he could be about to don 007's tuxedo?

"I've been offered a lot of work and your career is always tied into your profile. The Golden Globes is an international stage and I was incredibly lucky to be awarded one."

"Nothing's changed about Bond because there's never been anything. I've never been approached, no-one's ever talked to me, so that's only ever been rumours and there's nothing to it."'

That sounds like bad news to me. No one has ever talked to him.

Schiesse.

#19 Loomis

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 11:55 AM

I think he has been approached. Didn't he make that famous "15 minutes" remark a while back? Something along the lines of "I went to see the Bond producers and talked to them for about 15 minutes." (Admittedly, this doesn't make it seem as though he's a dead cert for the role - you'd have thought that if Broccoli and Wilson were interested in an actor, they'd spend more than a quarter of an hour with him. :) ) Also, Brosnan mentioned Owen and Jackman as people Eon had been talking to.

However....

Think of it this way: all these Bond rumours are giving Owen a tremendous amount of terrific free publicity. Apart from the money, he seems to be getting all the benefits of Bond without actually having to play him! It's almost as though, for lots of people (including, presumably, powerful people in Hollywood), he's already proven himself as the perfect 007, so why should he sign a deal with Eon, especially when plenty of interesting and lucrative offers are likely to be coming his way?

The only way I can see Owen donning the tux, frankly, is if the Bond people offer him a staggeringly good deal. They may do - Sony may insist on it, but I'm not sure that Eon is renowned for its generosity towards actors, especially debut Bonds. And even then I'm sure Owen would have to be convinced that the CASINO ROYALE script was something very special, that the film was likely to be another FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE or LIVING DAYLIGHTS (can you imagine him being interested in another OCTOPUSSY or DIE ANOTHER DAY?), and would be unwilling to commit to more than a couple of films (I'm under the impression that Eon usually signs new Bonds to three-picture contracts).

All of which said, I'm sure Owen would love to star in a successful franchise, but I think it'd have to be a franchise like Gibson's LETHAL WEAPON or Willis' DIE HARD (or Damon's Bourne) - a franchise he could take the credit for "creating", and a franchise people would think depended on his participation.

#20 spynovelfan

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 12:18 PM

Yes, he's mentioned starring in The Prisoner before - that could be a series. And there was this, a couple of years ago:

Owen Snubs Bond
23 June 2003 (WENN)
James Bond contender Clive Owen has snubbed the legendary franchise - by dismissing it as unchallenging. The British hunk is reported to be a frontrunner to replace departing 007 Pierce Brosnan when he hands over the superspy role after the next film. However, Gosford Park star Owen is nonplussed about the prospect of being the world's most famous hero - in fact, he doesn't want the job. According to British tabloid The Daily Express, he told a pal, "I think it's too formulaic, too tried and tested and a little past it's sell by date. I would not consider it to be a challenge. I've just come back from Los Angeles where I had a meeting with Francis Ford Coppola who wants to cast me in an exciting new project, which will be Bond-like but more challenging and relevant today. I'm really excited about it."

It's the Express, and not an on-the-record quote. But still. I can see both Owen *and* Brosnan doing films that would rival the Bond series.

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 01:26 PM

I think Clive Owen, Colin Firth, Dougray Scott, Gerard Butler and James Purefoy seem likely possibilities.

#22 gkgyver

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 01:32 PM

Please! Not another "He'll be Bond - no he won't!" thread!
Can't we just wait and see? I think everyone on this board has mentioned his opinion at least a thousand times.

For my part, I'll just lean back, relax and embrace the future.

#23 spynovelfan

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 02:21 PM

LOL. Nobody's forcing you to read the thread, mate.

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 02:23 PM

Well, to be honest I am quite torn over this one. My gut is having two seperate feelings. Part of me thinks its going to be Clive Owen, then part of me thinks it may be Dominic West. I hoping for Owen, but I'll just have to wait and see.

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 02:43 PM

My gut tells me if it's Dominic West, then my gut will feel pretty awful for this guy's tenure. There is nothing about this guy that says Bond to me. He seems more American than anything. Is this what EON wants, an Americanized Bond? Wouldn't be the first time.

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 02:48 PM

Loomis I just don't know--i'll fall back on Eon's pattern of picking a reasonably mature semi-unknown. Keeping Bond the star and not the actor. Which relative unknown? I couldn't even guess.

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 04:01 PM

For the past few weeks my gut was telling me Clive Owen has the inside track... but that's slowly starting to change. With all of the acting awards he's been winning lately, he may feel he doesn't need or want to be Bond. Although he has a lot of positive qualities that he could bring to the role, Clive Owen still seems a bit rough around the edges and not debonair enough for Bond. He is definitely not my first pick.. but still, he has room for improvement and could very well pull it off (and surprise me in the process).

The next two on my list, in my mind, would be better suited as Bond: James Purefoy and Ioan Gruffud. With each passing day though, they seem to be placed further down the "public's list."

And then there are the actors I am vehemently against inheriting the role of Bond: Dougray Scott, Gerard Butler and Dominic West. Dougray Scott in no way, shape or form has what it takes to play Bond (refer to Mission: Impossible 2). Gerard Butler, from what I've seen and know about him, doesn't have enough experience and can be downright goofy at times (at least he was when he was on a talk show I saw recently). And Eon is scraping the bottom of the barrel if they even entertain the thought of Dominic West as Bond (come on, just look at the guy - Dominic West as Bond? No way).

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 04:45 PM

VInce Vaughn as Felix Leiter:

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Dominic West as James Bond (doubling as a drunk Felix Leiter in some scenes)

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Edited by spynovelfan, 15 February 2005 - 04:47 PM.


#29 Bon-san

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 04:47 PM

VInce Vaughn as Felix Leiter:

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Dominic West as James Bond (doubling as a drunk Felix Leiter in some scenes)

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Hey, I really like the idea of Vaughn as Leiter!

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Posted 16 February 2005 - 05:01 AM

Well, at the risk of sounding like a bitch, I know for sure who it won't be: Dominic "happy drunk" West, Jack "posh" Davenport, or Dougray "the grease" Scott. Likewise, I think we can discount Adrian Paul (due to his age), Christian Bale (for his Batman-ness), Ewan McGregor (for obvious reasons), Jason Isaacs (for his age, acting capabilities, and similarity to Dalton), and Jude Law (too young, too small, too boyish).

It could be Hugh Jackman (and I'd love to see him in the role), but he's signed a big contract with Disney and seems to be totally out of the running. As for Clive Owen, his publicity and popularity among fans makes it hard to accurately determine his chances. Ioan Gruffudd, Gerard Butler, Eric Bana, Jeremy Northam, and James Purefoy are likely dark-horse picks (and they're all perfectly acceptable as far as I'm concerned).