45 replies to this topic

[Tarl_Cabot]

He didn't say he didn't want to do Bond...where and how did you come to that conclusion?

[Athena007]

Ya, I don't see him shooting down Bond anywhere. I mean is he is offered X-Men 3, Van Helsing 2, and Bond 21... then he's going some things to consider. I think most men would take the roll of Bond, but some other roll may be more important to him. It's a hard choice for someone like him who has some major rolls being offered to him.

[Tarl_Cabot]

there's time for all 3 since Bond films in the spring and the others can be shot in summer/fall/winter on off Bond years...plenty of time for all three if he wants to do all three...especially if Bond is a tri-annual event now...

[Qwerty]

Exactlly, many previous James Bond's did other films also, and James Bond could be fitted in, along with other films.

[Xenia's Ferrari]

i can not imagine x-men without jackman's wolverine. i want him as bond but not at the risk of loosing him as wolverine.

[Bond Bug]

Indiana Jones was affected by Harrison Ford being in Star Wars, but in a positive way. It was boosted as Ford had such a high profile and such a big following.

IF Jackman had all these big movies going, he would be jetisoned into the top of the A list. He would be one of the biggest box-office stars on the planet and that can only be good for commercial success of James Bond.

Apart from which, suppose he made one more Van Helsing and one more X men only. During most of his tenure as James Bond, and possibly from his second Bond onwards, he may have finished with these other movies anyway.

[Agent 76]

I think most men would take the roll of Bond,

I would in a glimpse!

[Bond Bug]

I agree Chimera, but if Jackman is Bond and does more Van Helsing, more Xmen, Tarzan and The Fountain, he'd have a chance of being the next Tom Cruise.

[Bond Bug]

Whilst Han Solo was a main character he was not 'poster boy' for the movies.

Although X-men is a 'team' movie, I think we are all agreed the main character is Wolverine. Van Helsing is certainly the main character of Van Helsing. I suspect Tarzan would be the main character of Tarzan.

Also notice how the Indiana Jones DVD Box Set was released months ahead of the Star Wars DVD box set? These film series are now in direct competition - and are both controled by Lucas. Eon would have no control over when a box set of X-men movies might be brought out as a spoiler to the Bond box set - for example.

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Furthermore the "Better Known" as tag is a disquieting one to me.
Jackman has already done two films as Wolverine, and is on the cover of many computer games and magazines etc. He is "better known as 'Wolverine'", as the reviews often claim. Now if he does a third X-man, how long will it be before he is better known as James Bond? or even as Hugh Jackman?
(I know Moore was better known as 'The Saint' when he got the part, and Brosnan was better known as 'Remington Steele' when he first got the part - but both these characters are very similar to James Bond and therefore do not jar in peoples estimation as to the sort of character that is associated with a particular actor - further they did not continue playing them when they became James Bond.)
I would personally prefer to think of the actor playing James Bond as being the guy who is James Bond - not the guy who is Wolverine who also plays James Bond.

Has Jackman ever played in an action film which was not massively fantasy based with oodles of CGI? This is the kind of film we all known him in - this what most people expect (and want) from a Jackman movie, but is this the right direction for Bond?

By the time they give Jackman a haircut and put him in a tuxedo, he won't look much like Van Helsing, Wolverine or Tarzen. If an audience can accept Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible, I don't think Jackman's other roles will overshadow him as Bond.

[SeanValen00V]

DO ANY OF YOU REALLY THINK EVEN IF JACKMAN IS LINED UP TO PLAY BOND, HE WOULD ACTUALLY BE SAYING HE'S INTERESTED AND STUFF, IT'S MORE THEN LIKELY THIS TARZAN THING IS A PLOY TO DISTRACT THE BOND RUMOURS UNTIL LETS SAY IF HE REALLY IS THE NEXT BOND.

THE INTERNET WASN'T REALLY AROUND AT GOLDENEYE TIME, WHEN BROSNAN WAS ANNOUNCED, IT WAS A OFFICIAL PRESS CONFERENCE.

[Bond Bug]

Yes I agree that could be the case.

I expect Brosnan will announce he is resigning first, probably next month, then a reasonable time gap of at least a month, I'd guess, when speculation and rumours will reach fever pitch, then a press conference to announce that the new James Bond is...........

[Martin Mystery]

...Clive Owen!

[ChandlerBing]

Elliot Gould!

[Martin Mystery]

CLIVE OWEN!

[Xenia's Ferrari]

not clive owen!

[Martin Mystery]

CLIVE OWEN, I SAY!!!

[YOLT]

I think Jackman's playing Wolverine, Van Helsing and Bond. It wont be true. Either he will play Bond, or the others.

[Agent 76]

Yippee-ki-yay Clive all the Way!

[Martin Mystery]

You said it, Agent76!

[kovit123]

[SIZE=14]CLIVE OWEN AS JAMES BOND
NO!!!!!!!!
OWEN SUCKS
OWEN SUCKS
OWEN SUCKS
OWEN SUCKS

[SeanValen00V]

By the time they give Jackman a haircut and put him in a tuxedo, he won't look much like Van Helsing, Wolverine or Tarzen. If an audience can accept Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible, I don't think Jackman's other roles will overshadow him as Bond.

Yes but Tom Cruise is NOT Ethan Hunt, Tom Cruise is Tom Cruise. You go to see a Tom Cruise film, you do not go to see an Ethan Hunt film. It doesn't matter who Tom Cruise plays, he always plays Tom Cruise.

When you go to see a Roger Moore film, you go to see a James Bond film - whether or not he is playing James Bond, Roger Moore is James Bond. When you go to see a Pierce Brosnan film, you go to see a James Bond film - whether or not he is playing James Bond - Pierce Brosnan is James Bond.

Go and look at the cover of 'James Bond - The Legacy' Each face you see looking back at you is James Bond - there are no other names that instantly spring to mind when you see them - not even Folkes.

If properly stored celluloid lasts a very long time. If you are an X-men fan then Huge Jackman will allways be Wolverine - always and forever. Sean Connery has done other films, they have been very succesful. But when he won the best supporting actor Oscar for 'The Untouchables' the orchestra played the James Bond theme - it is hard to shake success off - And as I have said before, the only Bond film to do better than X-2 was Die Another Day - there are a lot of people out there who when they see Jackman on the cover of a book they think 'Wolverine'.

It is true, however, that Huge Jackman is begining to look like he might be a bit like Tom Cruise - that is an actor who is more important to the box office, and more recognisable to the public, than the character he plays. I doubt Eon are about to embrace this sort of situation. True, eventually each Bond actor has believed himself to be more important than the role [except perhaps Dalton], and when that happened the actors' films get progressivly worse - whilst their fee gets progressivly bigger. To hire Jackman when he is already at that stage would seem to me to be madness.

Sean Connery is James Bond {and will forever be}
George Lazemby is James Bond {and will forever be}
Roger Moore is James Bond {and will forever be}
Timothy Dalton is James Bond {and will forever be}
Pierce Brosnan is James Bond {and will forever be}
Huge Jackman is a popular Hollywood actor known for his performances as Wolverine and Van Helsing in a sting of successful and prominant film series {and will forever be}

And Jackman if he is ever Bond will always be Bond as well.


Stallone lives with two iconic characters, Rocky and Rambo, it's not anything different, Wolverine and maybe Bond for Jackman.

Van Helsing isn't iconic enough, it's just a recent film, and we need to see it's presence over years to come, xmen came out in 2000, so it's not a good comparison.






ACTUALLY SLY STALLONE IS AWSOME EXAMPLE, SO MANY PEOPLE ENVISION ROCKY WHEN SOMEONE SAYS STALLONE, BUT SO MANY PEOPLE ALSO ENVISON RAMBO WITH HIS NAME.

SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE WITH WOLVERINE AND BOND, BOTH ARE WELL LIKED, IT WOULD JUST MAKE HUGH JACKMAN MORE POPLAR.

Rocky is different to Rambo, but Stallone played them differently, SAME AS IF JACKMAN HAD PLAY BOND AND WOLVERINE.

Edited by SeanValen00V, 04 May 2004 - 10:46 PM.

[SeanValen00V]

Neither Rocky, nor Rambo lasted  20 films, 40 years and 5 actors.

THIS ISN'T ABOUT COMPARING THE FILMS SERIES TO ROCKY OR RAMBO.

I'M TALKING ABOUT ACTORS BEING RECONGISED FOR ICONIC STATUS IN RELATION TO CHARACTERS.

RAMBO OR ROCKY DON'T NEED 20 FILMS, THEY ARE APART OF FILM FOLK AND TALK AND HISTORY.

All the actors who play Bond, carry the mantle with them for LIFE. They will be talked about, he was the 5th Bond, the 6th Bond etc.



SIMPLE.

Edited by SeanValen00V, 04 May 2004 - 11:02 PM.

[CommanderBond]

i think he is still good for bond even at the age he is now. He just has a Conneryesk feeling to me.

[CommanderBond]

he will get a bond-like role like Pierce did and then people will make the connection.