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[ChandlerBing]

In Christmas 1965, Thunderball opened huge, catapulting Agent 007 to unheard of heights of box office and cultural popularity. As the voice in the teasers proclaimed, "James Bond does it everywhere!" Indeed, where else could James Bond do it?

In the Summer of 1979, James Bond went above and beyond all other Bonds, making the journey into Earth orbit, with reality to spare. Where else could James Bond go?

In Christmas of 2002, James Bond struck the mother lode with box office grosses aplomb, making it the highest grossing (inflation unadjusted) Bond ever. However, with heavy doses of CGI and beyond the fantastic story elements, we are again left with the question.

Where Does James Bond Go From Here?

Pierce Brosnan has been quoted recently as saying that the producers don't have a clue where to take it next. Do they one up the next Bond, a la You Only Live Twice did for Thunderball? Or do they bring it back down to Earth, a la For Your Eyes Only for Moonraker? Or will there be another James Bond movie as we know it? After 40 years, is there really more we can do with James Bond? According to the current screenwriters, they are stumped, often coming up with what they deem to be original ideas, only to be shot down when reminded that it's been done before.

So, again, I ask you, where does James Bond go from here?

[SeaNNy-T.]

i think simply they should go to the past.

ive said this before but they should seriously do casino royale as an official bond movie. It should be very close to the book as possible and make it seem like it is actually taking place in the cold war era during the 50s-60s.

[ChandlerBing]

Well, if they can do what they are doing with Batman (ie, rebooting the series from the beginning) then why not James Bond? After 40 years, why not go back and do it all again?

[SeaNNy-T.]

ya they should but not remake movies that already exist like goldfinger,thunderball,etc.

[Qwerty]

I'd like to see a Bond film to the tune of Octopussy, nothing that's too over the top with laughs, but have a real gritty plot that captivates the whole way. I think this could work well after Die Another Day.

[SeaNNy-T.]

casino royale could do this with its gritty not over the top plot.

[ChandlerBing]

So, basically, so far, we have most people wanting to go with gritty, down to earth stuff. No one wants to try and outdo Die Another Day, which could easily put James Bond back in outer space or walking on water, or some fantastis, similar situation.

[Qwerty]

No, I don't think Casino Royale would be a good choice for the very next one, perhaps in a few films, but not yet.

I think Octopussy is a very far out film, it's not too down to earth at all, that's why it works well.

[SeaNNy-T.]

how is it not down to earth there is nothing over the top or impossible in that movie

[Qwerty]

It's a good mix between the overtly space feel of Moonraker and the down to eart For Your Eyes Only.

[SeaNNy-T.]

octupussy is its own movie and it was down to earth other movies didnt effect how it was

[Qwerty]

Yes, I know it was it's own movie! I'm saying it has some good elements from the other Bond films!

[Agent 76]

Where Does James Bond Go From Here?

Go ahead and makes dream...of good movies and great action and OO7 !

[Moomoo]

PB's comments about the producers being clueless is the most depressing Bond news I have ever heard. If they don't have a clue, what hope is there for Bond 21?

Here's the way I see it, Eon.

Update the original films for the 2000s. Make the new Goldfinger, the new Thunderball, the new You Only Live Twice, the new On Her Majesty's Secret Service. I am convinced this is the way to go forward. Use the original films as the blueprint. Make all new stories, keep Bond modern fighting modern foes, but use the original films as the magic blueprint.

Forget all this deep character development and emotional turmoil.
Have M in his original office and Bond enters. We need to see Bond defer to M.
Create a new SPECTRE organization. Not SPECTRE - but in its image.
Have a simple good vs evil plot. No complex plots. Less chance of plot flaws that way.
Have Bond tough (but not a complete superman).
The women should not be Bond's equal. Sorry, but that's just the way it is in Bond's world.
Have jokes, but keep them subtle. Do not sign-post each quip.
NO PUNS!
The end should lead up to a big battle.
The film should contain (at least) three big set pieces.
Q's weapons should aid Bond, not save him.
The film could possibly leave one plot thread open for development in Bond 22.
And John Barry should score the music.

How's that, Eon?

Moomoo

Edited by Moomoo, 14 March 2004 - 10:19 PM.

[Agent 76]

I say no remakes!

[Moomoo]

Well I can dream!!

Moomoo

[Agent 76]

Well I can dream!!

Moomoo

yes of course , you're free for that!

[Moomoo]

No, I don't mean remakes. I want all new stories. I did specify that. I just think Eon should study the original films and see what elements they can use in Bond 21. Most fans feel FRWL, GF, OHMSS and FYEO are the best bond films. They films are not too pun-filled, not too silly. You believe in the Bond world presented to you. Bond is tough, the villain is ruthless.

I think the magic secret is to create a new SPECTRE. I think the whole plot can stem from that. I know Eon doesn't hold the rights to SPECTRE, but surely they can create some new organization.

If you create a new organization and give them real menace it should create an interesting starting point by which to develop a story. The whole Bond community is crying out for the new SPECTRE or SMERSH. Surely now is the time to create some new enemy for Bond to fight?

Moomoo (master of the edit function )

Edited by Moomoo, 14 March 2004 - 10:32 PM.

[Onyx2626]

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Forget all this deep character development and emotional turmoil.
Have M in his original office and Bond enters. We need to see Bond defer to M.
Create a new SPECTRE organization. Not SPECTRE - but in its image.
Have a simple good vs evil plot. No complex plots. Less chance of plot flaws that way.
Have Bond tough (but not a complete superman).
The women should not be Bond's equal. Sorry, but that's just the way it is in Bond's world.
Have jokes, but keep them subtle. Do not sign-post each quip.
NO PUNS!

this guy is cr- waitaminit No puns? Count me in!

[Agent 76]

If you create a new organization and give them real menace it should create an interesting starting point by which to develop a story. The whole Bond community is crying out for the new SPECTRE or SMERSH. Surely now is the time to create some new enemy for Bond to fight?

now that is an idea I like!

[Moomoo]

I am known for my hopeless crusades, Onxy. LOL.

I am a fan of a UK comic book character and I went on about how crap the official computer game was going to be. I begged the developers to delay the release and alter the game. They didn't. Suffice to say, I was right and the game got many bad reviews (4 out of 10s) and was a massive flop. What I am trying to say is Eon won't listen to us. I know from bitter experience how hard it is to convince the powers-at-be to listen to fans. To listen to sensible advice. Eon will do what it wants. Fans are there to buy tickets, not to give advice.

Moomoo

[Agent 76]

Eon will do what it wants. Fans are there to buy tickets, not to give advice.

Moomoo

maybe you're right...but they give their best or so it seems..

[Moomoo]

I didn't mean my last post to sound harsh. If I were head of Eon I wouldn't listen to every fan. It's impossible to make a film when you're getting many different opinions. B Broccoli and MG Wilson have to go with what they believe in, not what thousands of fans dictate or suggest. They own Bond, not us. Having said that, I think we might be at another crossroads with the series and there's no harm fans suggesting ideas.

I believe they should create a new SPECTRE and embrace the classic Bond elements of the 1960s. But that's just my opinion. If Barbara Broccoli wants to go another route, that is her right.

Moomoo the diplomat:)

[CommanderBond]

i think they should have a recurring villain or to do what they did in EON ...bring a villain in that has connections to a past bond villain

[Agent 76]

a organization of SPECTRE type sounds very nice to me!

[CommanderBond]

well i dont think they can do that but it would be nice to have some thing like that.....I like the idea of Janus comming back or just not to have an organization at all.Just have a villain that comes back 2 or 3 movies .

[Qwerty]

I like that as well. Just one recurring villain would be a good satisfaction.

[CommanderBond]

I think it should be a non famous actor to be a villain.or just an older actor with experiance.

[Agent 76]

I think it should be a non famous actor to be a villain.or just an older actor with experiance.

Agree with your opinion.

[Qwerty]

I can never tell who I like before I actually see them, I'm sure they would choose someone adequate.