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#1 zerozeroseven

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Posted 31 January 2004 - 04:59 AM

The ending of the movie, where Bond and Domino are suddenly pulled behind the airplane is whimsical and amusing. But, unless I'm missing something, how are they planning on getting down, or up? They aren't hanging on a tow line from a helicopter. They're being dragged very abruptly behind a fast moving airplane. And the rope isn't connected to a part of the plane where they can be pulled in (as far as I can tell). I don't believe they have parachutes either. A helicopter could set them down smoothly somewhere, but the plane certainly couldn't. I'm sure there's a simple answer. Just wondering.

#2 SnakeEyes

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Posted 31 January 2004 - 05:37 AM

They both get scraped down the runway at 50 MPH and whilst Bond was able to peeled off the tarmack for YOLT, sadly Domino was turned into a pizza.

You'll either totaly get that, or not.

#3 Ezekiel

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Posted 31 January 2004 - 11:44 AM

They both get scraped down the runway at 50 MPH and whilst Bond was able to peeled off the tarmack for YOLT, sadly Domino was turned into a pizza.

You'll either totaly get that, or not.

Not sure if I totally get that - but I was LMAO at that!!! :)

#4 Johnboy007

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Posted 31 January 2004 - 01:53 PM

Damn good pizza! Good one Snake :)

#5 Qwerty

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Posted 31 January 2004 - 02:58 PM

Hmm, now that might be one of the oddest ending's to a Bond girl, yet, if that's the way the job must end....:)

By the way, I totally got that. :)

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 05:51 PM

The ending of the movie, where Bond and Domino are suddenly pulled behind the airplane is whimsical and amusing. A helicopter could set them down smoothly somewhere, but the plane certainly couldn't. I'm sure there's a simple answer. Just wondering.

Also, Professor Kutze jumps off of the Disco Volante with Bond and Domino. Nothing is shown as to what happened to him, plus Bond and Domino don't appear concerned. Maybe a shot of him crawling up on shore, or something, could have been added.

#7 Qwerty

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 08:21 PM

Also, Professor Kutze jumps off of the Disco Volante with Bond and Domino. Nothing is shown as to what happened to him, plus Bond and Domino don't appear concerned. Maybe a shot of him crawling up on shore, or something, could have been added.

I felt his character could've used much more interaction in the film. There is very little information given about him, yet you do know the basics. His character seems to just be an addition to the film, even though, I'm pretty sure I recall him from the novel of the same name.

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Posted 05 September 2004 - 07:18 AM

The ending of the movie, where Bond and Domino are suddenly pulled behind the airplane is whimsical and amusing. But, unless I'm missing something, how are they planning on getting down, or up? They aren't hanging on a tow line from a helicopter. They're being dragged very abruptly behind a fast moving airplane. And the rope isn't connected to a part of the plane where they can be pulled in (as far as I can tell). I don't believe they have parachutes either. A helicopter could set them down smoothly somewhere, but the plane certainly couldn't. I'm sure there's a simple answer. Just wondering.

Well I do think Domino and Bond was pulled inside the plane.
The device used is a Fulton Skyhook. It was developed by Interountain Aviation to pickup shot down pilots. The plane is a B-17 flying fortress. More information can be found at my webpage
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Posted 05 September 2004 - 12:17 PM

Nice site.

But it doesn't explain just how they were winched inside. After the efficiency of being wisked up in a flash, I can't see operatives throwing hooks out of the window trying to lassoo them in before they run out of fuel.

Would sort of diminish the whole thing if they had to then drop them back in the soup after having picked them up.

But even that would present a problem - unless the hook at the front is also a scissor affair.

I don't know.

#10 Simon

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Posted 05 September 2004 - 12:19 PM

They both get scraped down the runway at 50 MPH and whilst Bond was able to peeled off the tarmack for YOLT, sadly Domino was turned into a pizza.

Classic.

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Posted 05 September 2004 - 12:51 PM

Nice site.

But it doesn't explain just how they were winched inside. After the efficiency of being wisked up in a flash, I can't see operatives throwing hooks out of the window trying to lassoo them in before they run out of fuel.

Would sort of diminish the whole thing if they had to then drop them back in the soup after having picked them up.

But even that would present a problem - unless the hook at the front is also a scissor affair.

I don't know.

Thanks :)

The Skyhook system was used by CIA to retreive agents - and I am not kidding !
Take a look at Operation Coldfeet at CIA's website.

#12 Simon

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Posted 05 September 2004 - 01:13 PM

The Skyhook system was used by CIA to retreive agents - and I am not kidding !
Take a look at Operation Coldfeet at CIA's website.

Well, well.

Very many thanks for that sir. Didn't realise they could release the balloon or that the hook actually attached the cable physically to the plane.

Ingenious.

#13 Qwerty

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Posted 05 September 2004 - 03:51 PM

Very cool site there BMT216a!

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Posted 05 September 2004 - 04:34 PM

Very cool site there BMT216a!

Thank you very much. :)

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Posted 05 September 2004 - 04:35 PM

The Thunderball Obsessional site has some interesting info on this.

#16 SnakeEyes

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Posted 05 September 2004 - 04:55 PM

Ahh, i'm still laughing at my own Domino joke.

Help me.

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Posted 05 September 2004 - 05:08 PM

Ahh, i'm still laughing at my own Domino joke.

Help me.

Sorry, didn't mean to spoil the fun :)

anyway: I do like the joke :)

#18 Qwerty

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Posted 05 September 2004 - 05:15 PM

http://www.obsessional.co.uk/

Apparently it is indeed back up now.

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Posted 06 September 2004 - 02:05 AM

The Skyhook system was used by CIA to retreive agents - and I am not kidding !
Take a look at Operation Coldfeet at CIA's website.

Well, well.

Very many thanks for that sir. Didn't realise they could release the balloon or that the hook actually attached the cable physically to the plane.

Ingenious.

Geez, imagine the G-force and whiplash of suddenly getting yanked out of the water (wherever) by a plane. One's chest cavity contents would end up in one's feet. :)

#20 Simon

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Posted 06 September 2004 - 09:02 AM

Actually, have a look at the CIA link. It says the yanking is gradual because of the combined climb up and forwards.

Hard to believe but...

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Posted 06 September 2004 - 04:51 PM

Actually, have a look at the CIA link. It says the yanking is gradual because of the combined climb up and forwards.

Hard to believe but...

... and the Coldfeet agents are smiling - even after the climb - or is it the medicine ? :)

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Posted 07 September 2004 - 01:24 AM

I have my own problems with the Thunderball ending. Those boats were moving exceptionally fast during the end sequence. It looked like the Disco Volante was hopping over reefs and small islands at 90 mph.

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Posted 07 September 2004 - 01:44 AM

If you want to read more about the Sky Hook a good place to start is Rogue Warrior by the famous Navy Seal Richard Marcinko. I believe he was one of the test monkeys when they were developing it. The book is also a pretty good read.

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Posted 07 September 2004 - 02:00 AM

Actually, have a look at the CIA link.  It says the yanking is gradual because of the combined climb up and forwards.

Hard to believe but...

....I don't think I want to try it all the same. :)

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Posted 07 September 2004 - 02:02 AM

I have my own problems with the Thunderball ending. Those boats were moving exceptionally fast during the end sequence. It looked like the Disco Volante was hopping over reefs and small islands at 90 mph.

I think that was the way the editting may have shown the seen. A bit fast, yes.

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Posted 07 September 2004 - 08:36 AM

I think that was the way the editting may have shown the seen. A bit fast, yes.

It wasn't the editing so much as the under cranking of the camera.

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Posted 07 September 2004 - 01:32 PM

I think that was the way the editting may have shown the seen. A bit fast, yes.

It wasn't the editing so much as the under cranking of the camera.

Ah, that would make sense.

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Posted 07 September 2004 - 02:06 PM

I have my own problems with the Thunderball ending. Those boats were moving exceptionally fast during the end sequence. It looked like the Disco Volante was hopping over reefs and small islands at 90 mph.

...Which is precisely why I love it so much. So many people complain about TB's slow pace, yet when things get sped up, the detractors still complain! You have to keep in mind that the filmmakers threw everything but the kitchen sink into the movie to "out-James Bond" the competition. Sure, the film fails on some levels (ostensibly speaking; I love everything about it) such as pacing and length, but that's what one gets with an epic.

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Posted 07 September 2004 - 02:09 PM

Nice site.

But it doesn't explain just how they were winched inside.  After the efficiency of being wisked up in a flash, I can't see operatives throwing hooks out of the window trying to lassoo them in before they run out of fuel.

Would sort of diminish the whole thing if they had to then drop them back in the soup after having picked them up.

But even that would present a problem - unless the hook at the front is also a scissor affair.

I don't know.

Thanks :)

The Skyhook system was used by CIA to retreive agents - and I am not kidding !
Take a look at Operation Coldfeet at CIA's website.

Interesting!

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Posted 07 September 2004 - 06:06 PM

The B-17 flying fortress from Thunderball still exists today. It's in flying condition and can be seen at the Sprucegoose Museum. It's not equipped with the Fulton Skyhook any more :)
Look for the B-17 in the bombers section of Aircraft & Artifacts.