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#1 TB65

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Posted 23 December 2003 - 10:00 PM

Everybody knows that "The Saint" stars Roger Moore as Simon Templar. I was thinking though.........wouldn't be even better if the novels were rereleased like the Fleming novels were? Does anybody have any news about Saint novels being rereleased? Or possibly about the B&W episodes being released on DVD? Post your thoughts here!

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Posted 23 December 2003 - 10:08 PM

I have all the color episodes and would love to be able to collect the B&W shows too....There are a number of Saint fans here on CBN so perhaps one of them will have an answer to your question! Let's hope so!

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Posted 23 December 2003 - 10:30 PM

Two very good questions TB65, and questions I wish I knew the answer to.

For a number of years I have relied on The Saintly Bible by Dan Bodenheimer at http://www.saint.org/ for the latest news and information concerning The Saint. Unfortunately, the site has not been updated since June 08, 2003.

Doing a quick search at Amazon, it appears that new copies of reprints of The Last Hero and The Saint and Mr. Teal are available. The rest of the books I could find appear to be previously owned copies.

The black and white episodes of The Saint have been released on DVD by Carlton video in the United Kingdom. Hopefully A&E will release the black & white episodes soon, but I have not read any rumors of when or if this will occur.

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Posted 23 December 2003 - 10:33 PM

They need to release the B&W episodes over here. I have a region free player so I could always buy them from Amazon UK but I do prefer to buy Region 1 whenever possible.

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Posted 23 December 2003 - 10:58 PM

Originally posted by DLibrasnow
They need to release the B&W episodes over here. I have a region free player so I could always buy them from Amazon UK but I do prefer to buy Region 1 whenever possible.


DLibrasnow, don't you end paying more money in shipping from the UK than the items you are purchasing originally cost?

But it's encouraging to know that A&E is still releasing cult television series from the UK on DVD and there is hope that they will eventually release the episodes from 1962 to 1965.

In meantime, hopefully, the series will return to the Encore Mystery channel or the episodes will be sold in syndication to another cable network in the United States.

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Posted 23 December 2003 - 11:11 PM

DVDs are generally just more expensive in the UK so although the shipping is reasonable I just feel the sting on my wallet more than taking a trip to Best Buy!

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Posted 24 December 2003 - 01:54 AM

Originally posted by Triton
Two very good questions TB65, and questions I wish I knew the answer to.

For a number of years I have relied on The Saintly Bible by Dan Bodenheimer at http://www.saint.org/ for the latest news and information concerning The Saint. Unfortunately, the site has not been updated since June 08, 2003.

Doing a quick search at Amazon, it appears that new copies of reprints of The Last Hero and The Saint and Mr. Teal are available. The rest of the books I could find appear to be previously owned copies.

The black and white episodes of The Saint have been released on DVD by Carlton video in the United Kingdom. Hopefully A&E will release the black & white episodes soon, but I have not read any rumors of when or if this will occur.



Hi Triton,

Carlton have released 4 dvd's containing about 14 episodes in total. The forth dvd came out in 2001 and there has been no more or moore since.

I'm still waiting til they continue releasing them again and I will left you know when they are!.


All the best,

Cheers,


Ian

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Posted 24 December 2003 - 01:57 AM

Thanks for the info Bondian! :)

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Posted 24 December 2003 - 02:38 AM

My pleasure Darren....Just cannot believe why Carton take so long releasing these classics. It took nearly two years for them to release 'Randall & Hopkirk' and 'The Persuader's'. But 'The Saint' has come to a standstill.

I'm not sure if Roger owns any rights etc because I know he a little bitter over his rights etc.


Cheers,


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Posted 24 December 2003 - 03:04 AM

It seems everybody wants more "Saint"! This is good news and hopefully A&E listens and releases the DVD's of the B&W episodes. But just having the episodes isn't enough! We need the 50 plus novels that were written too!

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Posted 24 December 2003 - 03:06 AM

Many thanks for the clarification Bondian!

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Posted 24 December 2003 - 03:23 AM

Hi Triton,

My pleasure. I'll try and e-mail Carlton to ask them if and when there likely to release them.

I would be delighted if I can give you good news.


Merry Christmas,

Cheers,


Ian

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Posted 24 December 2003 - 03:38 AM

I haven't seen any of the novels anywhere!

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Posted 24 December 2003 - 06:26 AM

Yep I like The Saint.

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Posted 24 December 2003 - 06:28 AM

The TV programme that is.

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Posted 24 December 2003 - 12:32 PM

Yes, the Val Kilmer movie was totally naff!

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Posted 24 December 2003 - 04:22 PM

The Show and the novels are the best. The movie was one of the worst I have ever seen. However, I've never read a Saint novel....that's why I'm wondering if they will be rereleased for new fans.

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Posted 24 December 2003 - 04:28 PM

I have never the novels either and would also be interested in a rerelease. I wonder how many fans of the show have ever read the novels.

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Posted 24 December 2003 - 05:12 PM

I believe Darren that there's a few Paperbacks floating around on the UK Ebay. Maybe worth a look.


Cheers,


Ian

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Posted 24 December 2003 - 05:18 PM

Actually now I think about it I think I do have some Saint books at home that I picked up at second hand booksales when I was younger.

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Posted 24 December 2003 - 05:20 PM

Ive never seen or read anything about the Saint. Is it good???

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Posted 24 December 2003 - 05:47 PM

I must admit, I've never read a 'Saint' book either.

One of my favourite Roger Moore Saint is call 'Vendetta For The Saint'. It was a double episode and is available on DVD. Roger really does show a 'harder' and 'tougher' side to him. I really love his dialogue with Ian Hendry DENO "take that anyway you like Templar", TEMPLAR "what ever you say Deno".

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Posted 24 December 2003 - 08:51 PM

I've only read a novelization of several television scripts from the 1960's television series titled The Saint in the Sun written by Leslie Charteris. Unfortunately, this book was lost in a move and I haven't been able to locate it.

I don't know how the 1960's television incarnation compares with the character first published in 1928's Meet theTiger!. But I guess it's a good sign that there has been periodic interest in the character since he first appeared.

Leslie Charteris wrote over 100 novels featuring The Saint.

I would like to see the films starring Louis Hayward and George Sanders from the late 1930's and early 1940's.

From 1947 to 1951, Vincent Price portrayed the character in a radio series.

From 1953 to 1967 there was a Saint anthology magazine published ten times a year.

In addition to The Saint television series starring Roger Moore from 1962 to 1969, there was a television series starring Ian Ogilvy titled Return of the Saint from 1978 to 1979.

There were also television movies produced in 1987 and 1989, which I have never seen.

Let's try to forget the wretched movie starring Val Kilmer and Elizabeth Shue from 1997.

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Posted 24 December 2003 - 09:27 PM

Thanks for the information Triton! You must really be a Saint fan.

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Posted 27 December 2003 - 04:51 PM

Originally posted by CommanderBond
Ive never seen or read anything about the Saint. Is it good???


It's excellent....I bought The Saint megaset because I had such great memories of the Ian Oglivy series.

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Posted 28 December 2003 - 02:11 AM

There's a fair bit of info about The Saint novels at Saint.Org.

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Posted 28 December 2003 - 04:17 AM

I managed to get my hands on a few Saint novels thru EBay UK. For a good yarn, I can highly recommend them; Charteris is a wonderful writer.

On another point, if there was ever a cinematic franchise waiting to supersede Bond, it's Charteris' Saint. Done correctly, faithful to the original character and doing away with all the silly gadgetry of the last movie, I reckon whoever holds the rights could produce a series of films to be proud of and ones the real fans would enjoy.

I guess the same could be said of Bond

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Posted 28 December 2003 - 04:19 AM

They tried it with Val Kilmer and it didn't work!

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Posted 28 December 2003 - 04:21 AM

Ah, but it might've done if they'd listened to me!

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Posted 28 December 2003 - 12:13 PM

I know a lot of Saint fans really dislike that movie.