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[4 Ur Eyez Only]

Ok.. what ONE Blooper do you wish you could fix.. which one just drives you nuts.. out of ALL of Roger's 007 Films???

It could be a Story Mistake, Blooper in Editing, Special Effect,ect..

* I'd say..

Moonraker's Pre-Title .. when we see the Parachute Strapes under the clothes.. then sometimes Roger has Goggles on.. then doesn't.. then the Jaws guy doesn't look like Jaws.. then at the end when he falls into the circus tent! That is probably the worst shot model.

List your #1 "Blooper" or whatever! (then later give us more of a list)

[Kingdom Come]

Roger getting his *** filled with shrapnel jumping out of chair at the other end of the table to Stromberg in Spy Who Loved Me.

[Onyx2626]

Bad guy lays down on the conveyor belt in AVTAK.

[Qwerty]

Hmmm, I'll just name a few, as one really doesn't stand out for me.

-Seeing the cord holding Moore in MR. (zero-gravity)
-Seeing the cord attached to the car in AVTAK.
-Seeing the crew in Siada's dressing room in TMWTGG.
-No splash from helicoptor falling into ocean in TSWLM
-Corrinne's switching footwear during her death sequence in MR.
-The window that Holly closes in MR, and while she kisses Bond, the camera turns to the window which is open, giving a view of the water, I believe.

Well, okay, it's not really a blooper, but I better well accept that any secret agent can get out of a gorilla suit without making a sound in a matter of seconds.

[4 Ur Eyez Only]

Yaphic Kyoto (sp?)

when he blow up and looked like a balloon! in Live & Let Die! looks really bad! .. also just a dumb idea, I mean if you cant make it look perfect why do it?

[SnakeEyes]

Making 7 films instead of 5.

He was a bit past it in OP and AVTAK...well he was already dead almost lol.
Stepping down after FYEO would have made Roger leave on a very good note.

[The Dove]

The worst blooper in my opinion occurs in the Man With the Golden Gun, when you catch a brief view of one of the film crew in the bathroom mirror when Bond walks over and hands Andrea Anders her bathrobe. Although its only a quick glance, its way too obvious.

[Bryce (003)]

Bell Bottoms;)

The two bad cuts in AVTAK. As an editor, these really bug the Hell out of me, but they are quick and relatively minor.

- Fight with goon in microchip warehouse.
- May Day slipping into bed with 007.

[Simon]

The incorrect egg being smashed in Octopussy, and only because it was scripted as such and had months of pre-production, production and post production time to have it noticed and dealt with.

[Triton]

Originally posted by 4 Ur Eyez Only
Moonraker's Pre-Title .. when we see the Parachute Strapes under the clothes.. then sometimes Roger has Goggles on.. then doesn't.. then the Jaws guy doesn't look like Jaws.. then at the end when he falls into the circus tent! That is probably the worst shot model.

I think that the continuity problems are a small price to pay for Eon Productions doing the stunt for real. I mean today I don't think that they would even bother to create a custom camera out of titanium for the plastic Panavision lens or hire skydivers BJ Worth and Jake Lombard. Today they probably would have had Roger Moore, Richard Kiel, and actor Jean-Pierre Castaldi (pilot) strapped to a harness in front of a green screen for close ups and then had a special effects department create computer generated figures who would fight in free fall.

[Qwerty]

Originally posted by Triton


I think that the continuity problems are a small price to pay for Eon Productions doing the stunt for real.  I mean today I don't think that they would even bother to create a custom camera out of titanium for the plastic Panavision lens or hire skydivers BJ Worth and Jake Lombard. Today they probably would have had Roger Moore, Richard Kiel, and actor Jean-Pierre Castaldi (pilot) strapped to a harness in front of a green screen for close ups and then had a special effects department create computer generated figures who would fight in free fall.

I completely agree Triton! They took the time, no matter how much effort or money it consumed to get the stunt, yes, stunt, done right. They need to improve on that now. I believe the Bond production team always said, that their stunts were the real thing, well, CGI has begun to intrude a little much lately...

[Triton]

Originally posted by Qwerty


I completely agree Triton! They took the time, no matter how much effort or money it consumed to get the stunt, yes, stunt, done right. They need to improve on that now. I believe the Bond production team always said, that their stunts were the real thing, well, CGI has begun to intrude a little much lately...

If I remember correctly, it took about 80 jumps to shoot all the footage of the pre-title sky diving sequence of Moonraker. Second unit director John Glen broke up the sequence into multiple parts so that a portion of it could be filmed during each jump.

It's not that I wish someone risk serious injury or death for my entertainment, but I find real stunts to be much more exciting than "photo-realistic" CGI special effects.

[Blofeld's Cat]

The anti-aircraft gun seen in the movie poster of Live and Let Die.

[4 Ur Eyez Only]

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
Making 7 films instead of 5.

He was a bit past it in OP and AVTAK...well he was already dead almost lol.
Stepping down after FYEO would have made Roger leave on a very good note.

I think he should have went off in the sunset at the end of Octopussy!

Perfect end to a career as bond!

AVTAK should have been the new guy's movie

[Genrewriter]

I agree. As much as I enjoy AVTAK, Octopussy was a much better sendoff for Moore with him literally riding off into the sunset.

[Double-Oh-Zero]

-Bibi Dahl in FYEO
-for that matter, some other parts of FYEO were rubbish anyway
-bits of TMWTGG (specifically, the karate scene ouside of the school, the jacket Moore wears at the end of the film, and the kazoo sound)
-the way Moore said "Bond, James Bond" sometimes- sounded and looked surprised to hear it himself
-the young broad in the pretitles of AVTAK- poor girl
-the old in the May Day/Bond love scene- poor chap
-the fact that at no point during LALD does Tee-Hee actually (audibly) say "Tee-hee"
-the bird that Bond "has for dessert" in TSWLM- never really understood that whole scene between the two and it's significance

[Triton]

Originally posted by Double-Oh-Zero
--the fact that at no point during LALD does Tee-Hee actually (audibly) say "Tee-hee"

I guess Julius Harris couldn't laugh like the character in the book. But the character's name makes no sense without it. Quite disappointing.

[Blofeld's Cat]

Sorry, are we discussing bad ideas used and missed oportunities in the movies or bloopers?

[Kingdom Come]

Octopussy's extra arms in poster for Octopussy.

[Simon]

Looks like everyone is discussing something different.

The next one up will no doubt be offering snooker shot pointers.

[Double-Oh-Zero]

Originally posted by Blofeld's Cat
Sorry, are we discussing bad ideas used and missed oportunities in the movies or bloopers?

Sorry, B.C. Couldn't resist. Although the Tee Hee one is kind of a blooper. If you want actual bloopers, then:

-in MR, Corrine's shoes change from sandals to heavy boots when she is running through the forest
-Solitaire's cards have a 007 pattern on the back
-during the pyramid scene in TSWLM, when Bond hides behind a wall while pursuing Jaws, Bond doesn't move at all (it's a matte painting)
-the door chime from MR is the theme from Close Encounters of the Third Kind
-it seems rather impossible that Bond managed to get into the gorilla suit in OP without Gobinda spotting him. As a matter of fact, since when do gorilla suits have watches on them? If they don't, Bond must have taken the time to actually put the watch on over the suit
-in the same film, Bond asks for a new Walther at Q's lab, but he never does get it
-Jeremy Bulloch stars in OP as Smithers, but he was killed in TSWLM on board the British sub in TSWLM. Not so much a blooper, more of a continuity error

[Simon]

Originally posted by Double-Oh-Zero

-in MR, Corrine's shoes change from sandals to heavy boots when she is running through the forest
-Solitaire's cards have a 007 pattern on the back
-during the pyramid scene in TSWLM, when Bond hides behind a wall while pursuing Jaws, Bond doesn't move at all (it's a matte painting)
-the door chime from MR is the theme from Close Encounters of the Third Kind
-it seems rather impossible that Bond managed to get into the gorilla suit in OP without Gobinda spotting him. As a matter of fact, since when do gorilla suits have watches on them? If they don't, Bond must have taken the time to actually put the watch on over the suit
-in the same film, Bond asks for a new Walther at Q's lab, but he never does get it  
-Jeremy Bulloch stars in OP as Smithers, but he was killed in TSWLM on board the British sub in TSWLM. Not so much a blooper, more of a continuity error

You clearly haven't got the hang of this game - a blooper is a movie mistake, ie like your first point about Mr.

Points 2-4 aren't mistakes, just in jokes and movie making.

The Gorilla suit stunt was movie licence.

The Walther point may just be the same as your never seeing Bond take a dump.

.........and if Jeremy Bulloch was in Spy, chances are it wasn't as Smithers - in just the same way as other recurring actors in the series playing different roles.

What's your take on snooker shots?

[Double-Oh-Zero]

I've understood the term of "blooper" to be a mistake, gag, screw-up, blunder, fault, flub, and, yes, in-jokes. Yes, my first one was for laughs, but my second post was not opinionated. It's factual- Bond specifically asks for a Walther, but just leaves Q's Lab without one. It would seem logical that he leaves with the jacket and gun. It would be impossible for him to get into the suit without Gobinda spotting him (even given Qwerty's point about him being a secret agent). Jeremy Bulloch was featured in those two films, but rather prominently. It's not the same character, no, but you can clearly see his face on both occasions, which is rather odd in a movie if you ask me (same goes for Joe Don Baker). Bond does not move in that particular part of the pyramid pursuit. It's a blooper. 4UEO asked us to name our favourtie bloopers. Those're mine. Only a bit of fun, Simon. No harm intended. BTW, could you explain further what you mean by "The gorilla suit stunt was a movie licence?" Not sure I follow you.

[Blofeld's Cat]

Originally posted by Kingdom Come
Octopussy's extra arms in poster for Octopussy.

How can that be a blooper when it was an intentional marketing gimmick?

[benmax]

Moonraker:

During the helicopter journey to Drax's chateau, in one shot Corinne is wearing earphones, the next she isn't.

Octopussy:

Some jarring night-to-day jumps (from the casino to the market fight scene and the raid on Kamal's palace at night followed by Bond riding to rescue Octopussy during the day) make for poor continuity editing.

[DLibrasnow]

Originally posted by Simon
The incorrect egg being smashed in Octopussy, and only because it was scripted as such and had months of pre-production, production and post production time to have it noticed and dealt with.

I always thought this was intentional and it was Orlov's mistake - hence the grimace from Kamal Khan.

[Simon]

Originally posted by DLibrasnow


I always thought this was intentional and it was Orlov's mistake - hence the grimace from Kamal Khan.

I've heard other people say the same, but if this was the case, why did they go to all the trouble to get back the other egg. Also, Orlov's comment is about the egg giving them trouble; well the true egg didn't give them trouble but the fake one did.

And since they're in the business of jewel theft, surely half a million pounds would be worth holding on to.

[DLibrasnow]

Originally posted by Simon


I've heard other people say the same, but if this was the case, why did they go to all the trouble to get back the other egg.  Also, Orlov's comment is about the gg giving them trouble; well the true egg didn't give them trouble but the fake one did.

And since they're in the business of jewel theft, surely half a million pounds would be worth holding on to.

Like I said it was Orlov's mistake!

[Simon]

Originally posted by Double-Oh-Zero
BTW, could you explain further what you mean by "The gorilla suit stunt was a movie licence?" Not sure I follow you.

In the same way that no one believes Bond would drive an invisible car, so too, no one believes Bond could jump out of a suit in three seconds flat. It's a situation whereby they are asking the audience for a licence to get away with that part of the sequence.

Also, regarding the Spy element, it isn't a blooper as it is how the film was created. The only reason you're denoting blooper status is because you (and others) noticed. (not difficult now as it is highlighted in the DVD) Would you say the Moonraker sequence whereby Drax is talking to Bond in the Shuttle exhaust room (with the seats and desk that fold away) was a blooper simply because the shot is a composite? That sequence was joined at the curvature of the opening to the room - it was production values - not blooper.

Sorry to be pedantic, I find blooper lists to be tiresome because people start adding things "that aren't possible in real life" and production shortcomings as opposed to production mistakes, .

A blooper is the use of different wheels in the TND carpark chase when they show a close up of the tires re-inflating. It is not that Jaws couldn't fight a shark.

[Simon]

Originally posted by DLibrasnow


Like I said it was Orlov's mistake!

If you owned half a million worth of something and I started to make efforts towards smashing it, presumably you would have something to say about it, indeed you might even try to prevent me from smashing it.

My point is Kamal didn't try to prevent, nor said, "Oi, you just lost us