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#1 deth

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Posted 10 December 2003 - 12:27 AM

I was just about to buy it.... but decided on A View to a Kill instead....

......should I go back and get this one as well? From what I've heard, it's not very good....
...I don't mind it too much, but I'm interested (once again) to know what you all think of it.....

#2 Genrewriter

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Posted 10 December 2003 - 12:30 AM

On one hand, you made a very good choice in getting AVTAK. The music is somehwat dull and uninspired, though there some nice pieces here and there. On the other hand, you might as well pick it up just so you have a complete collection. :)

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Posted 10 December 2003 - 12:45 AM

Originally posted by Genrewriter
On one hand, you made a very good choice in getting AVTAK.  The music is somehwat dull and uninspired, though there some nice pieces here and there.  On the other hand, you might as well pick it up just so you have a complete collection. :)


yes... then all I would be missing is LTK, FRWL and Dr. No (I never plan on buying Dr. No or LTK) .... I'm still undecided about FRWL...

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Posted 10 December 2003 - 01:28 AM

FRWl is a must have to complete the collection, as is MWTGG. LTK is the weakest, in my opiniin, of the ones you mentioned. Michael Kamen was VERY uninspired to do a Bond score and definitely not up to the challenge.

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Posted 10 December 2003 - 01:33 AM

The Man with the Golden Gun is probably Barry's most unusual 007 score.

Some bits, whilst they fit the film in question, seem entirely out of place in a Bond flick. Scaramanga's Fun House is a campy little number. The scene-setting pieces are good, but reminiscent of You Only Live Twice. It has a rollicking action theme: Let's Go Get 'Em!, being a case-in-point. But I was mortified to learn that the slide-whistle is actually part of the soundtrack!

#6 Qwerty

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Posted 10 December 2003 - 01:39 AM

Buy it! It's not that bad, and Barry's work on Finding Sacramanga's Island is excellent, very suspenseful and rivetinging!

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Posted 10 December 2003 - 02:29 AM

Originally posted by [dark]
The Man with the Golden Gun is probably Barry's most unusual 007 score.

Some bits, whilst they fit the film in question, seem entirely out of place in a Bond flick.  Scaramanga's Fun House is a campy little number.  The scene-setting pieces are good, but reminiscent of You Only Live Twice.  It has a rollicking action theme: Let's Go Get 'Em!, being a case-in-point.  But I was mortified to learn that the slide-whistle is actually part of the soundtrack!



yeah, that wistle BLOWS..... he must have been drunk when he put that in....

#8 deth

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Posted 10 December 2003 - 02:37 AM

ok... my question now is..... which should I get now..... FRWL or TMWTGG?

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Posted 10 December 2003 - 02:55 AM

Originally posted by deth
ok... my question now is..... which should I get now..... FRWL or TMWTGG?


Well, FRWL has the fantastic "main titles" and the epic "OO7 Steals The Lector" (commonly known as "OO7")

TMWTGG has "Hip's Trip", "Let's Go Get 'Em" (ruined by the 'whistle') and "Journey to Scaramanga's Island"

Toss a coin. They're both better than DN but that's about it. O, They're also better than that stuff done by that Eric Wassisname back in '95.:)

#10 Qwerty

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Posted 10 December 2003 - 02:59 AM

Hmmm, I have the perfect answer to this: Buy them both! I always had trouble choosing between soundtracks, and then I came to the conclusion, I would eventually buy them all, so I just bought them both! :) Seriously, if you want just one for now, get FRWL.

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Posted 10 December 2003 - 03:54 AM

I'd say The Man with the Golden Gun, just because it's so different.

But From Russia With Love is one of the few soundtracks I'm still to get.

From Russia With Love is expanded, whereas The Man with the Golden Gun is not, if that will influence your decision.

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Posted 10 December 2003 - 03:10 PM

From Russia With Love all the way... one of the best soundtracks of the series....

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Posted 10 December 2003 - 03:18 PM

AAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!! ............. I'm tempted by both!!!!

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Posted 10 December 2003 - 04:24 PM

FRWL - The remastered CD is excellent and was the first Bond film completely scored by Barry.

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Posted 10 December 2003 - 05:00 PM

I'd go for that one too.

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Posted 10 December 2003 - 06:30 PM

The only complaint that I have about the From Russia with Love Remastered CD is that it has little dynamic range. This may be because it is a forty year old recording. Could the original masters be monophonic?

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Posted 10 December 2003 - 09:06 PM

It's the Christmas season, Deth. Treat yourself.

I like both FRWL and TMWTGG soundtracks, so this would be a hard choice if you had to choose one or the other. Notice how Barry soundtracks contain atmosphere and local flavor. Funny we don't really get that much anymore.

I'm one of the Golden Gun soundtrack supporters. It's amazed me over the years how a majority of the people slam this one. I think it has a good mix of stuff on it. I even enjoy the title song, which gets berated a lot too.

FRWL is more low key and even contains stuff not included in the film, which could go either way. It's lacking any real action theme and was when Barry was feeling his way still. But it's nice to listen to it and see where he took his music from there.

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Posted 11 December 2003 - 02:01 AM

Originally posted by Turn
It's the Christmas season, Deth. Treat yourself.

I like both FRWL and TMWTGG soundtracks, so this would be a hard choice if you had to choose one or the other. Notice how Barry soundtracks contain atmosphere and local flavor. Funny we don't really get that much anymore.  

I'm one of the Golden Gun soundtrack supporters. It's amazed me over the years how a majority of the people slam this one. I think it has a good mix of stuff on it. I even enjoy the title song, which gets berated a lot too.  

FRWL is more low key and even contains stuff not included in the film, which could go either way. It's lacking any real action theme and was when Barry was feeling his way still. But it's nice to listen to it and see where he took his music from there.


I just may!

....yes, FINALLY! Someone who enjoys the title song for TMWTGG..... Better than the other choice.... the Alice Cooper version....imo

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Posted 11 December 2003 - 02:27 AM

In my opinion, it can me summarized in two words: Not Good

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Posted 11 December 2003 - 02:28 AM

I agree - TMWTGG theme song is stupid but fun. Especially that "Dont fear...James Bond is here" tag at the end credits...

FRWL theme song - absolutely unlistenable in my opinion. I don't know who Matt Monroe was and I guess there's a good reason for that. The most melodramatic ridiculous singing... It's really the only song out of all 20 (21 - including Louis) that I can't bear to listen to, have to skip.

Anyone feel the same? Or am I a heretic?

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Posted 11 December 2003 - 02:35 AM

Hi BondzBK,

Well being an old bastard like me I like it. In fact it's one of my favourite Bond Theme's.

I think that FRWL theme is quite old fashioned. It has that old romantic flavour that has long since been dead. Matt Monroe was probably hired because he was quite a popular singer over here in the UK. He was quite a short man, and a pain in the bum apparently.

All the best,

Cheers,


Ian

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Posted 19 December 2003 - 11:55 PM

well, I just bought TMWTGG..... I listened to FRWL in the store.... some tracks are alright..... most are average or under average....



imo

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Posted 20 December 2003 - 02:16 AM

Originally posted by [dark]
From Russia With Love is expanded, whereas The Man with the Golden Gun is not, if that will influence your decision.


I see you've already made your choice, deth, but I'll just point out that From Russia With Love isn't expanded, after all. I was under the false impression that it was.

I picked it up the other day, along with the other two soundtracks I needed; now my collection of remastered CDs is complete.

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Posted 20 December 2003 - 05:39 AM

Originally posted by [dark]


I see you've already made your choice, deth, but I'll  just point out that From Russia With Love isn't expanded, after all.  I was under the false impression that it was.

I picked it up the other day, along with the other two soundtracks I needed; now my collection of remastered CDs is complete.


It's a pity that the master tapes are lost for Dr. No, From Russia with Love, and Moonraker and this is one of the reasons why the James Bond 007 Remastered CDs of these soundtracks do not contain previously unreleased tracks. :)

There is an interesting interview with Lukas Kendall, producer of the James Bond 007 Remastered CDs at Dr. Shatterhand's Botanical Garden web site:
A Conversation With Lukas Kendall

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Posted 20 December 2003 - 12:27 PM

Yeah, I've read it. It's a shame.

I'd love to hear expanded versions of the later Moore-Barry soundtracks.

I also wished GoldenEye had included extra tracks, particularly the score that John Altman composed for the film. Certainly the masters for this score haven't been lost already?

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Posted 20 December 2003 - 03:15 PM

Oooh, yes [dark], I'd love to hear that! I believe there was a thread about that very subject on here a little while ago,m but the search isn't bringing it up, if I find it I'll post it, but perhaps one of thr staff members know.

I'm not even sure if it was a single thread or if it was a discussion in something else.

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Posted 20 December 2003 - 05:28 PM

Hopefully the James Bond 007 Remastered project generated a profit for EMI. I would like to see some other James Bond soundtracks get the expanded treatment and hopefully EMI could buy Michael Kamen's score to Licence to Kill from MCA. It would also be interesting to hear alternate scores, like John Altman's for GoldenEye, and the rejected theme songs. The master tapes for some of the film scores could also be found in the vaults someday.

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Posted 20 December 2003 - 05:59 PM

it's a pity....


....the score that I most want expanded would be AVTAK....


....and, imo, TMWTGG soundtrack is HIGHLY underrated.... I think it's quite good.... even that crazy dixieland/jazz mix of the main title....

....it all seems to suit the film...

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Posted 20 December 2003 - 06:20 PM

Yes, I would love it if the master tapes were ever found for Moonraker. Although, there are a few tracks from the film on Nic Raine's CD.

Yes, The Man With The Golden Gun is a fairly great soundtrack, although the amount of tracks is a little mediocre, for not having additon tracks added, the 43 minute long soundtrack is quite good. 'In Search Of Scaramanga's Island' is Barry at some of his best!

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Posted 20 December 2003 - 06:23 PM

Originally posted by deth
....and, imo, TMWTGG soundtrack is HIGHLY underrated.... I think it's quite good.... even that crazy dixieland/jazz mix of the main title....

....it all seems to suit the film...


I agree completely. Especially when you consider that John Barry had three weeks, or two depending on who you read, to compose the score. It seems like reviewers for the most part rate it as the worst soundtrack of the series because they cannot get past their dislike of Lulu or the slide whistle.