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Miss Moneypenny as Villain in Bond 21?.


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#1 Bondian

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Posted 21 August 2003 - 06:15 AM

Could Miss Moneypenny's declining years and frustration for her love of Bond bring her to team up with the lead villain to assist in world domination and to the death of Bond?.

#2 BONDFINESSE 007

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Posted 21 August 2003 - 08:33 AM

INTERESTING THOUGHT, BUT I JUST DONT SEE THAT EVER HAPPANING
moneypenny would never go bad

#3 Tanger

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Posted 21 August 2003 - 09:44 AM

If that ever did happen, it would be a sure idea that they've run out of decent ideas. Something like that should never happen in the novels or movies, but I bet somebody's done something like that in a fanfic before.

#4 Tim007

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Posted 21 August 2003 - 10:11 AM

One word: No.

#5 Tanger

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Posted 21 August 2003 - 10:24 AM

Hey Tim, whose quote is that in your sig? Lol!

#6 Icephoenix

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Posted 21 August 2003 - 10:38 AM

Kill this thread....have mercy.

#7 Tim007

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Posted 21 August 2003 - 11:26 AM

Originally posted by Tanger
Hey Tim, whose quote is that in your sig? Lol!


Ask Xen. :)

#8 [dark]

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Posted 21 August 2003 - 12:12 PM

Mmm, most definitely not.

Personally, I don't think any of the current MI-6 staff should turn evil. I just wouldn't believe it. Not Tanner, not M, not Q, not Robinson and definitely not Miss Moneypenny.

#9 Blofeld's Cat

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Posted 21 August 2003 - 12:28 PM

There's always the VR sunnys to make it so. The producers arn't adverse to "reinventing" various aspects from other Bond movies. So I believe. :)

I just hope they don't flog a dead horse with this one though. "Bond's dead! Oh, it was just a VR exercise."
:)

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Posted 21 August 2003 - 04:17 PM

Originally posted by Bondian
Could Miss Moneypenny's declining years and frustration for her love of Bond bring her to team up with the lead villain to assist in world domination and to the death of Bond?.


NOOOOOO! I would hate it if the Bond series decided to take a beloved regular character(any of the MI6 staff, past or present) and make them villains like the Mission Impossible movie series did to Mr. Phelps. I would also hate it if they brought in former series allies or semi-regulars like Felix Leiter, Sylvia Trench, Marc-Ange Draco or Columbo and turned them evil as well. Besides, after three turncoats(006, Elektra, Miranda) in three of the last four films, the idea of MI6 traitors is getting a little stale.

#11 Jim

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Posted 21 August 2003 - 04:21 PM

1. Why?
2. No
3. 'bye
4. Still no.
5....what's she going to do? What's her big plot? Threaten the world with lame innuendo? Tipp-Ex out Staffordshire? Hurl rolodexes at folk? Serve some tea that has mysterious fizzing purple lumps in it? Do some "erratic filing"? All a bit odd.
6. And still no.

#12 Bryce (003)

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Posted 21 August 2003 - 04:50 PM

Um....

No.....

Really......

No.

That is to say "No."

#13 Athena007

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Posted 21 August 2003 - 04:56 PM

OMG... NO! Moneypenny would just not be the type to do that... she has a very loyal personality... I can even fathom the thought.

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Posted 21 August 2003 - 04:58 PM

Originally posted by Icephoenix
Kill this thread....have mercy.


touche'

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Posted 21 August 2003 - 09:07 PM

An evil Monetpenny? That's the worst idea since having Tracy Bond rising from the dead to seek revenge.

#16 Bondian

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Posted 22 August 2003 - 05:14 AM

Well, if I remember correctly the last few Brosnan movies has seen Bond 'fall-out' with M and in the last movie he was assumed to be a traitor.

Wouldn't any of you agree that all's not 100% in the MI6 camp?.

#17 Jim

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Posted 22 August 2003 - 05:49 AM

Originally posted by Bondian
Well, if I remember correctly the last few Brosnan movies has seen Bond 'fall-out' with M and in the last movie he was assumed to be a traitor.


...for about twelve minutes, until they forgot about that bit of the plot.


Wouldn't any of you agree that all's not 100% in the MI6 camp?.


Wouldn't it be more of a twist then if there isn't yet another traitor in MI6?

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Posted 22 August 2003 - 05:55 AM

Hi Jim,
Yes, it would be nice to see Bond and M etc getting on without all the homages to previous Bond Movies.

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Posted 13 September 2003 - 04:36 AM

Originally posted by Bondian
Could Miss Moneypenny's declining years and frustration for her love of Bond bring her to team up with the lead villain to assist in world domination and to the death of Bond?.


I would hope not.

In my interpretation of Moneypenney, the person she is....for her to turn would dissapoint me as much as Mr. Phelps turning A-hold did in Mission Impossible.

If we had to lose Moneypenney, I would rather that she would be more like how we lost old Q. Touching. Special. Not tragic or, dare I say, an outright abborance of what these characters have stood for so long.

I would hope not.

004

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Posted 13 September 2003 - 05:23 AM

I would hope not as well 004.
But the way these films are going anything could happen to make the films move forward.
I'm not in favour at all the way these films are going at all. I know that Bond has fallen out with M on several occasions, but as for being regarded as a traitor, I think that's streaching the cloth too much.
Cannot we have a nice Bond film that's full of action, romance and good old escapism rather than mundane garbage!!!.

#21 mattbowyer

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Posted 17 September 2003 - 02:52 PM

She could ever so slightly be involved...like a mole or something the handsome bad guy uses to get to Bond. But anything like a main villain, god no.

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Posted 17 September 2003 - 02:55 PM

No.

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Posted 17 September 2003 - 08:51 PM

Instead of the idea of a villainous Moneypenny, why not a new cast for Moneypenny or somebody alongside Moneypenny , ie: Octopussy's Miss Smallbone, like Emma Catherwood. I saw some pics of her and she certainly has the right elegance and secretorial facade. Do a search and see what you think.

#24 DLibrasnow

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Posted 17 September 2003 - 08:54 PM

I just don't think the public would buy it!

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Posted 17 September 2003 - 09:18 PM

At the risk of getting the PMs from Hell....I am going to play Devil's Advocate and say yes -- with a caveat. She wouldn't be the main villian, but one of the henchwomen.

As some of you know, in the book version of "The Man With a Golden Gun" Bond is brainwashed by the Soviets into killing M. Luckily, M expected it, and saved himself.

If the Soviets could get to Bond, it is not beyond the realm of possibility that Moneypenny could be kidnapped (that did happen in Gardner's Nobody Lives Forever) and then brainwashed (ala TMWGG) into handing over secrets to the enemy de jour.

No one suspects Moneypenny, not even Bond, until the truth becomes impossible to ignore, there could be some sort of a confrontation, where everything that Moneypenny ever repressed (and was used against her in the brainwashing) comes out, and Bond has no choice but to harm her.

Of course, by the end of the movie, Moneypenny will have recovered, and there could be a tender moment between them (where Bond blows off everything she said in her mind controlled state) and by the next movie all is well again.

-- Xenobia

PS: Can I count this as my five minute excercise in fan fic?

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Posted 17 September 2003 - 09:25 PM

How about Robinson as a villain?? I think that he has established enough of a friendship to Bond that the betrayal would be quite shocking!

#27 ChandlerBing

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Posted 17 September 2003 - 09:28 PM

Actually, Xenobia, Moneypenny was kidnapped in Nobody Lives Forever, along with May.


I can see it now...Moneypenny has turned the other cheek, her hands comes up to her face, pulling it off, to reveal...


John Travolta! He was the villain all along!

#28 Xenobia

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Posted 17 September 2003 - 09:34 PM

LOL Chandler!

At least with Samantha Bond in the role, Face Off II would finally star someone who can ACT!

I'll amend my original post. I couldn't remember when the kidnapping happened. Thanks for telling me.

-- Xenobia

#29 ChandlerBing

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Posted 17 September 2003 - 09:36 PM

Ah, don't worry about it, Xenobia. Nobody Lives Forever is my favorite of the Gardners, with License Renewed a close second, since the Bond girl and the love of my life share the same last name. Sentimental reasons.

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Posted 17 September 2003 - 11:42 PM

"Nobody Lives Forever" is a great Bond book, it ranks up with "Icebreaker" and "Role of Honor" as my three favorite Gardner 007 books.